Is Dak worth his contract?

CowboyRoy · Nov 26, 2021

Slick said:
Who are to determine that?

With millions of fans, you don't think there will be disagreeing opinions?

We are all fans, but some can't criticize the team or players, even the owner?

The maturity on this board is pretty much the mirror of all social media. It's not very civil. No reason we can't debate like adults.

I dont consider this thread was made with adult debate in mind. He got the response he deserved.

No one will care if he stops rooting for the team. Dont need fans that jump ship the moment the team enters a bad stretch.

Slick · Nov 26, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
These roaches have been waiting under a rock cowering for 8 weeks. Just hoping for a bad stretch so they could come out and sprew their laughable hatred.

Once we get the starters back they will crawl back into the earth until it rains again.

Its like those insects and plants that lie dormant in the dessert until it rains, sprout, mate, then go back into the earth for another 6 months. LOL

You are an incredibly immature individual. No fan has to blindly agree with every player or team decision and can still be a fan.

Are you an NFL caliber head coach or GM?

If not your opinion is no more or less important than any others here.

dstew60105 · Nov 26, 2021

BoyzBlaster said:
Greetings fellow Zoners. It seems like most posters on this forum are in agreement we are devoting an enormous amount of our cap to a QB who is essentially a top of the line bus driver. I have seen some posters on here in the past who obviously understand the cap much better than I. I am wondering if one of them can hazard a guess as to when we can realistically turn the page on the Dak era and move on from his massive contract? I am reflecting back to last off season when it seemed like the Eagles were completely hosed with the Wentz contract, and somehow, some way Roseman not only trades him, but it looks like there are going to get a first round pick back to boot!! I feel like we will just continue the 25 year ride down the toilet until we take our chances and hitch our wagon to a highly drafted QB. And don't bring up Brady because no sane person thinks finding the best player in the history of the game in the 6th round is going to happen in our lifetimes. And don't bring up Romo we won nothing with him either. Thanks.

LOL

Slick · Nov 26, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
I dont consider this thread was made with adult debate in mind. He got the response he deserved.

No one will care if he stops rooting for the team. Dont need fans that jump ship the moment the team enters a bad stretch.

I've been a fan for over 51yrs. Had season tickets at Irving, and this current stadium for 15 yrs until 2 years ago. Will always be a fan. I can't criticize our overpaid QB or other players?

He needs to take responsibility for that job. Him criticizing so called band wagon fans publicly is in incredibly poor taste. He needs to own his performance and fans except winning, not whining.

CowboyRoy · Nov 26, 2021

Slick said:
I've been a fan for over 51yrs. Had season tickets at Irving, and this current stadium for 15 yrs until 2 years ago. Will always be a fan. I can't criticize our overpaid QB or other players?

He needs to take responsibility for that job. Him criticizing so called band wagon fans publicly is in incredibly poor taste. He needs to own his performance and fans except winning, not whining.

You sound ridiculous criticizing a QB that just went for 375 yards, 2 TD's, another TD called back for penalty, 0 picks and a 106 QBR.

And no he isnt overpaid. Market rate. Lucky to have him.

All with Lamb and Cooper out. Remarkable game for Dak actually.

But you can criticize our over paid 15 million dollar blocking cheerleader that has had 5 bad games in a row. And you can criticize a defense that gave up 36 although in their defense, they are decimated by big injuries.

JBond · Nov 26, 2021

Reality said:
I think that you are making a lot of assumptions based on a vocal minority and are likely to realize that soon enough in the replies to this thread.

Why bother... kids are reactionary and they know everything. Lol.

rnr_honeybadger · Nov 26, 2021

Wake me up when the Dak era is over.

SteveTheCowboy · Nov 26, 2021

Nav22 said:
If you think playing tremendous football is just “expected” then that’s on you. There isn’t a QB in the league who consistently plays that well.

Dak was tremendous in the 4th and awful on the 1 throw in OT. It happens. Let’s see what happens when he gets his weapons back and isn’t throwing to Noah Brown.

No....I never said dak needs perfect games. It would appear we disagree on what is clutch.

Although it's sometimes hard to tell...as people argue things others people never said.

Lost our bloomin minds.

BoyzBlaster · Nov 26, 2021

CowboysFaninHouston said:
Ok .which QB? 4 out of 5 first round QBs fail and it may take several years for that QB to be ready..
That is if you hit on the right one.

Now I said this over summer too. Not opposed to it but that would mean rebuilding. Trading, dumping and cutting and then focusing on rebuilding and draft. For that I have to stomach a couple of 5-12 seasons. Are you ready for that?

The point is if you want the best chance to win a super bowl you have NO CHOICE but to try. The fact that QB's are hit or miss is irrelevant. The alternative is to do what the Cowboys have done since Aikman - go with later round 'steals' at QB and win NOTHING for 25 years.

ondaedg · Nov 26, 2021

DandyDon52 said:
truth is no one knows what all the fans in this country and beyond think about dak from week to week.
I imagine it fluctuates with wins and losses, bad games, good games, but no one knows what everyone is thinking or how they feel.
This is the fatal flaw with twitter, few thousand goof balls post same thing and media and others assume this reflects everyone in the country!

Here in northeast Ohio every Browns and Steelers fan I know wishes Dak was QBing their team. Only a few loonies on the Zone feel differently.

SpaceCowboy99 · Nov 26, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
You sound ridiculous criticizing a QB that just went for 375 yards, 2 TD's, another TD called back for penalty, 0 picks and a 106 QBR.

And no he isnt overpaid. Market rate. Lucky to have him.

All with Lamb and Cooper out. Remarkable game for Dak actually.

But you can criticize our over paid 15 million dollar blocking cheerleader that has had 5 bad games in a row. And you can criticize a defense that gave up 36 although in their defense, they are decimated by big injuries.

This is why we don't like Dak. We pay attention the whole game. He got half his yards and half his TDs in one quarter this game. What happened the other 3 quarters?

This seems to be Daks calling card. He is just inconsistent. There are no other words for it. He doesn't seem to be able to read advanced defenses. He has always had accuracy issues. And he just performs in spurts.

Aftershock · Nov 26, 2021

SpaceCowboy99 said:
This is why we don't like Dak. We pay attention the whole game. He got half his yards and half his TDs in one quarter this game. What happened the other 3 quarters?

This seems to be Daks calling card. He is just inconsistent. There are no other words for it. He doesn't seem to be able to read advanced defenses. He has always had accuracy issues. And he just performs in spurts.

Exactly. They look at total stat lines and judge a players' performance on that but don't actually have the insight to dig deeper and analyze what went into those numbers. I saw nothing from Dak's performance last night that would warrant him getting an "elite" or "outstanding performance". It was just average. The 1st 3 quarters last night I saw many inaccurate throws; under-over thrown balls, mistimings, etc. Only in the 4th quarter and in OT did he show up. Elite QB's don't wait until the 4th quarter to show up, and he shouldn't be excused for his piss poor accuracy all game just because of one "good quarter"

Hey? Do you know how Dak ranks in the NFL 2021 season for average QBR/game?

50.8,
That is #17/32.

CowboysFaninHouston · Nov 26, 2021

BoyzBlaster said:
The point is if you want the best chance to win a super bowl you have NO CHOICE but to try. The fact that QB's are hit or miss is irrelevant. The alternative is to do what the Cowboys have done since Aikman - go with later round 'steals' at QB and win NOTHING for 25 years.

That wasn't the point, to get one of the top QBs you need high draft picks. So you must tank and I .order to tank you either suffer through ton of injuries ala 2020 or you cut and trade everyone and suffer through a couple of years.

And that's a gamble.

And do u think anything will be different with another QB? Is that really our problem? Looking for a young QB to save this franchise!!

CT Dal Fan · Nov 26, 2021

This is what I find funny.

The Cowboys gave up 509 yards to the Raiders. They gave up 36 points. They had 14 accepted penalties, and even though several were questionable, teams can't win with this lack of discipline. They had special teams gaffes, including two missed kicks and Pollard getting buried deep on his overtime runback. The running game has been MIA for weeks.

And yet the main topic of discussion here is what to do about Dak, who passed for 375 yards and brought the team back from 11 points down to overtime- without his top two receivers.

BoyzBlaster · Nov 26, 2021

CowboysFaninHouston said:
That wasn't the point, to get one of the top QBs you need high draft picks. So you must tank and I .order to tank you either suffer through ton of injuries ala 2020 or you cut and trade everyone and suffer through a couple of years.

And that's a gamble.

And do u think anything will be different with another QB? Is that really our problem? Looking for a young QB to save this franchise!!

Nearly everything about your post is wrong. Here are the facts.
1. Going back to 2000, 12 quarterbacks have won SB's. MOST of them (7) were drafted in the first round, and you could argue it as more like 8 as the eagles probably wouldn't have made it to the SB without Wentz. This is reason #1 to draft a QB in the first round.
2. Of the 7 first rounders who won SB's, 4 of them (the majority) were taken 10th or later. This is the second reason - you don't necessarily have to tank.
3. Of the 12 QB's who won SB's, only TWO (Brad Johnson and TB) was drafted outside of the 3rd round. Not great odds for a 4th round QB.

It doesn't matter if most QB's wash out. It's a risk no matter what you decide. You can be smart and choose the option that gives you the best chance for success, or you can do what the Cowboys have done, which gives you 25 years and counting of mediocrity and watching other teams clown us.

DOUBLE WING · Nov 26, 2021

Slick said:
Seriously?. Did you ever see Aikman get angry? It's happened. Dak sits there someone looking confused.

He should be firing up the team as a leader. The Denver game showed what he's lacking.

Yelling on the sidelines is a performative gesture. It means nothing. No win or loss was ever decided by someone yelling on the sidelines. Dez yelled on a million sidelines and never won a thing.

If you don't think Dak is actively involved with communicating with/motivating his teammates on the sideline, you should watch the "Sounds from the Sideline" videos on the team's YouTube channel.

bsbellomy · Nov 26, 2021

TwoDeep3 said:
Every time I see someone post his salary as if that means anything, all I think about is the fact their comments are based on envy.

The idea of this team had that money they would have spent it on other people and won the game. Which ignores the last 25 years of decision making by the Jones'. It also ignores the person making the 40 million dollar comment does not work in this league, therefore he isn't even a layman.

But it comes down to the same gripe made about people who make a lot of money in other careers. The have nots always blame the haves.

And that is about as small minded as someone can be.

There's your opinion and then there is reality. Most people are upset because Dak's contract will likely cause us to lose some good players like Michael Gallup and Randy Gregory.

RonWashington · Nov 26, 2021

Do you throw Daks stats out the window ? The yards the QB rating leading them downfield to tie the game . All in a game with 88 & 19 out the top 2 receivers and 21 on a bum knee . How the ****is this game on # 4 ?

RonWashington · Nov 26, 2021

I seem to remember # 8 having his contract “ restructured “ year after year in the 90’s so the Cowboys could field a contending team yearly . I’m sure Dak is up for musical math so he gets checks from Jerry well after he’s retired so Dallas can keep talent on the roster. He doesn’t want to become a QB on the Dallas Giants type team …garbage .

Streifenkarl · Nov 26, 2021

Slick said:
He doesn't get paid to pad stats, he gets paid to win games, and at $40M be the speak to light up this team. Period. You see that spark these last few games?

Uhm, well he did that this season. So you wanted to say "paid to win SB"?

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