Our O-line is our only chance at success

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I think Dak has lost a little trust in the OLine. Injuries have really hurt them and the LEFT side of the line has been the weakness most of the season.

It's obvious in the run game. HOW many 3rd/4th and short have Dallas failed at recently? They're not getting the kind of push they used to.

Unpopular opinion: Williams is better at LG than McGovern physically, but McGovern isn't as sloppy as Williams.

Sidenote: Dallas should target Will Hernandez for LG in the off-season. If not him, someone else that's legit.

Also maybe Nick Martin (LV) or Ted Karras (NE) at C
 

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A lot of teams escape it. A lot of teams play with injuries and do just fine.

That is why mobile QBs are flourishing in this league.

I don’t think there has ever been a time in the NFL where offensive lines are so bad and so many coaches have decided to just spread teams out and try to play 7 on 7 football.

We have played many games with injuries and won, MANY like at the top of the list for missed games. so again whats your point..2 games got you down? they have averaged 30 points a game this year and are 7-4 man step back from the ledge and breathe. If they free fall the rest of the way you can rant away, look at the list of Teams we are grouped with that went 1-2 over the last 3 games...the sky is not falling, in fact we are getting players back and should be fine going forward barring "that we can not talk about" running rampid through the team.

Real question Catch, if I told you all the injuries before the season and made you bet...would you have bet we would be 7-4 and #1 offense in the league at this point?
 

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We have played many games with injuries and won, MANY like at the top of the list for missed games. so again whats your point..2 games got you down? they have averaged 30 points a game this year and are 7-4 man step back from the ledge and breathe. If they free fall the rest of the way you can rant away, look at the list of Teams we are grouped with that went 1-2 over the last 3 games...the sky is not falling, in fact we are getting players back and should be fine going forward barring "that we can not talk about" running rampid through the team.

Real question Catch, if I told you all the injuries before the season and made you bet...would you have bet we would be 7-4 and #1 offense in the league at this point?


My opinion changes with more information. I don’t make my mind up before the season and then accept it because of my previous opinion.

My previous opinion was we would win the division.. 50/50 chance we win our wildcard.. Then get knocked out.. After watching what our team is capable of I no longer accept that.
 

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I stand by that to. As linebackers they have a similar skill set.

I can go to a highschool basketball game and say that a player has the same skill set as Larry Bird. It doesn’t mean that player is Larry Bird. It means their skill set is similar. Please stop being dumb. Thanks.
Well you said it was a "trash pick" lol. You were wrong on both accounts but it is what it is man lol.

This board’s funny. The most outspoken members who start a dozen threads/week are usually the ones who know the least about football.
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You've noticed that too lol?
 

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If the Cowboys rush for less than 100 yards they lose, so far this season. Whatever they have to do to get the running game back on track needs to be done.
I've heard this but isn't that kind of flawed? Like if you are winning a game don't you usually run it more than you pass? They are passing a bunch because they've been behind it seems.
 

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My opinion changes with more information. I don’t make my mind up before the season and then accept it because of my previous opinion.

My previous opinion was we would win the division.. 50/50 chance we win our wildcard.. Then get knocked out.. After watching what our team is capable of I no longer accept that.


No longer accept what..the season is far from over man.
 

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This board’s funny. The most outspoken members who start a dozen threads/week are usually the ones who know the least about football.
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It all makes sense now. They bark and bark every day, all week long, bashing Dak and Zeke, yet they don't know ish about the game of football. Bunch of uneducated and inexperienced posters.

One wastes their time trying to educate them, especially since they are stubbornly hell bent on being right only in their own minds. This from a group who clearly don't have an understanding of the game of football, much less never played it. What a waste of time.
 

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he's been on the ledge since Thursday as evident in all the sky is falling threads he has participated in. after we win a few hell back off the ledge


Someone buy him a Shot and some chill, dont want him coding out and missing the big finish they got comming..LOL
 

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I've heard this but isn't that kind of flawed? Like if you are winning a game don't you usually run it more than you pass? They are passing a bunch because they've been behind it seems.
Not flawed at all. Just because your winning doesn't mean you can run. Its about being effective..Cowboys haven't won a single game where they couldn't run effectively this season.
 

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Someone buy him a Shot and some chill, dont want him coding out and missing the big finish they got comming..LOL
I often wonder to myself how well I would chill with a faction of the board. I mean I'm a pretty laid back dude but I just wonder if we were at the local bar with a plate of wings how many on this board would have difficulties enjoying the game and would they act like the do here in person. Would i be as patient as i am here i couldn't just avoid them like i can here. The doom and gloomers i think i could still chill with. Its the abrasive types id have more difficulties with. Then of course face to face they may not be so abrasive.
 

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Besides the Patriots, not team in the league have I seen that is dependent on how well their Oline performs like the Dallas Cowboys.

No amount of weapons or defense being played can overcome our Oline not absolutely imposing their will on teams and leading us to victory.

Look at the Patriots for example. A rookie QB, nearly 0 skill talent, but what do they do well? They block.

Dallas over this last month has had a few holes in the boat. A 1 legged Zeke has nearly all but disappeared and the Cowboys have called on Dak to step up and he just isn’t that type of player.

For example.. Rodgers will be dealing without his start Left Tackle the rest of the season. Do you think it will matter at all for them? Did it matter at all vs the 7-3, now 7-4, Rams? No it did not.

Our run game is our path to success sadly. It has to be established or the threat of it has to exist in order for this offense to work.

So if Dallas want to re-establish and have any hope of winning it’s not going to be Dak or Zeke who turns this ship. It’s all on the guys up front.

Side note: McCaffrey is out for the season.. NFL, especially the Cowboys, do not pay high dollar for RBs after their rookie deal. They’re never going to be that player again and if someone is willing to pay a RB like Zeke 15 million a year than let them do it or trade him while he is a hot ticket item.

" What do the Pats do well ? " … .they scheme- they coach.

- They placed a scheme that is most conducive to that rookie QB. (ala quick, short range, rhythm pass game)

- They scheme a certain pass route design, a certain run game design, and they have top notch coaches that
specialize in carrying out these schemes, packages and assignments to their players that best fit their personnel workings.

- Ditto on defense as well as they don’t a Revis, or Ramsay, or even a Stephen Gilmore dominate CB anymore, but yet they are either No.1 ranked defense or into the top 3 of NFL teams in that area.
All the more reason why I was so proud of this Cowboys offense scoring big in our big OT win over Pats, on their home turf at that.

- While you're glorifying the Packers, also note that the Rams were already on a losing streak heading into battle with the Packers.
Not only are the Rams finding it tough running the ball, which sets up their vaunted play action offense, since RB Carl Akers got IRed for the year., but that places
more crumbling pressure on mistake prone QB Matthew Stafford.,..
 

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After watching the Ravens OL and the Packers OL and even the Titans OL, it’s clear to me that our OL is weak. Pretty good at pass protection when healthy, but overall, a finesse group. Zeke won’t thrive without a power blocking line. The Ravens OL is simply huge, strong, arms like trees. That’s a powerful group. We have a smallish OL.
 

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Besides the Patriots, not team in the league have I seen that is dependent on how well their Oline performs like the Dallas Cowboys.

No amount of weapons or defense being played can overcome our Oline not absolutely imposing their will on teams and leading us to victory.

Look at the Patriots for example. A rookie QB, nearly 0 skill talent, but what do they do well? They block.

Dallas over this last month has had a few holes in the boat. A 1 legged Zeke has nearly all but disappeared and the Cowboys have called on Dak to step up and he just isn’t that type of player.

For example.. Rodgers will be dealing without his start Left Tackle the rest of the season. Do you think it will matter at all for them? Did it matter at all vs the 7-3, now 7-4, Rams? No it did not.

Our run game is our path to success sadly. It has to be established or the threat of it has to exist in order for this offense to work.

So if Dallas want to re-establish and have any hope of winning it’s not going to be Dak or Zeke who turns this ship. It’s all on the guys up front.

Side note: McCaffrey is out for the season.. NFL, especially the Cowboys, do not pay high dollar for RBs after their rookie deal. They’re never going to be that player again and if someone is willing to pay a RB like Zeke 15 million a year than let them do it or trade him while he is a hot ticket item.
I thought you said Dak was the problem?

Are you flip flopping again?

In thread you said the defense was a huge problem and now the line is the problem.
 

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If the Cowboys rush for less than 100 yards they lose, so far this season. Whatever they have to do to get the running game back on track needs to be done.

I wish I could find that stat.

It’s like a ridiculously high win rate when we rush for a certain amount.
 

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Besides the Patriots, not team in the league have I seen that is dependent on how well their Oline performs like the Dallas Cowboys.

No amount of weapons or defense being played can overcome our Oline not absolutely imposing their will on teams and leading us to victory.

Look at the Patriots for example. A rookie QB, nearly 0 skill talent, but what do they do well? They block.

Dallas over this last month has had a few holes in the boat. A 1 legged Zeke has nearly all but disappeared and the Cowboys have called on Dak to step up and he just isn’t that type of player.

For example.. Rodgers will be dealing without his start Left Tackle the rest of the season. Do you think it will matter at all for them? Did it matter at all vs the 7-3, now 7-4, Rams? No it did not.

Our run game is our path to success sadly. It has to be established or the threat of it has to exist in order for this offense to work.

So if Dallas want to re-establish and have any hope of winning it’s not going to be Dak or Zeke who turns this ship. It’s all on the guys up front.

Side note: McCaffrey is out for the season.. NFL, especially the Cowboys, do not pay high dollar for RBs after their rookie deal. They’re never going to be that player again and if someone is willing to pay a RB like Zeke 15 million a year than let them do it or trade him while he is a hot ticket item.

both Zeke and Pollard have suffered.
 

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Unpopular opinion: Williams is better at LG than McGovern physically,
its unpopular because it is incorrect. if anything should be clear at this point, its that CMcG is a naturally more powerful player.
 

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I wish I could find that stat.

It’s like a ridiculously high win rate when we rush for a certain amount.
I saw an article on BTB about the OL combinations that had the stats for each game and OL members. It was eye opening for me.
 

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After watching the Ravens OL and the Packers OL and even the Titans OL, it’s clear to me that our OL is weak. Pretty good at pass protection when healthy, but overall, a finesse group. Zeke won’t thrive without a power blocking line. The Ravens OL is simply huge, strong, arms like trees. That’s a powerful group. We have a smallish OL.
"Arms like trees"
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True though. The Ravens have old school warriors in the trenches
 
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