Raiders get PI call to beat Dallas but don’t today on a more egregious non call

rambo2 · Dec 5, 2021

Aviano90 said:
Do you seriously want that weak crap to be a penalty? If so, let them just throw a flag for any finger laid on a receiver 5 yards down field. It didn’t impede the receiver one bit. Good Lord, let’s just move to flag football already. And Rambo is your username? Change it.

I don't really care. After that Thanksgiving game the league obviously told the officials not to call as many penalties.

LovinItAll · Dec 5, 2021

snadler said:
Hurts the Boys twice..

It was a bad call on Turkey Day. Don’t care about him ‘turning his head’, it just wasn’t PI.

Just started watching the KC game. On the first play by Denver, the DB lowers his helmet to make the tackle. It’s a clear and obvious penalty. No call.

StarChamber_33 · Dec 5, 2021

The DB actually turned his head to see where the ball was!! What a novel concept..

Aviano90 · Dec 5, 2021

rambo2 said:
I don't really care. After that Thanksgiving game the league obviously told the officials not to call as many penalties.

Right is right and wrong is wrong. The Saints got screwed on a RB pass blocking. You want Zeke penalized next time he does the exact same thing so Saints fans don’t think they are getting screwed?

CowboyinMD · Dec 5, 2021

nightrain said:
Let the players on the field decide the game. It was a minimal tug and the defender had good position. I am so freaking tired of the all the ticky-tack calls. I have seen much worse infractions not called in games and I don't care as long as the non call s are equitable to both teams. No flags are good flags.

I agree.

Please, tell that to the refs (then) when Dallas' D is on the field. People aren't as upset with today's non-PI call in Vegas as they are with those PI calls on Thanksgiving in Dallas.

Which is it? Can't have it both ways.

rambo2 · Dec 5, 2021

MarcusRock said:
Waaaahhhh. Cowboys are victims.

Every other post is, "if that were the Cowboys ... (insert whiny victim stance)." I mourn the loss of masculinity 'round these parts.

Well, the Cowboys got burned in the 1st game last year when they called the OPI on Gallup. They got burned this year in the 1st game when they didn't call the OPI on Tampa. Then they got burned on Thanksgiving and then burned again when they let it go today. That's 4 games in 2 years.

rambo2 · Dec 5, 2021

Aviano90 said:
Right is right and wrong is wrong. The Saints got screwed on a RB pass blocking. You want Zeke penalized next time he does the exact same thing so Saints fans don’t think they are getting screwed?

The Cowboys got screwed when they hit Dak in the face on the interception. So, they are even.

CT Dal Fan · Dec 5, 2021

rambo2 said:
Since you are so smart and can see things. Can you explain what defensive holding is?

The fact you said this proves how subjective defensive holding and PI penalties are. The NFL needs to make sure such calls are consistent.

Do I see holding or PI on this play? I can be convinced I can. I can also be convinced I can't.

This is why I was so mad on Thanksgiving since I've seen worse than what Anthony Brown did NOT called. I don't think what Brown did was worse than this non-call today.

This wasn't called, so what the Cowboys did shouldn't have been called either.

Aviano90 · Dec 5, 2021

rambo2 said:
The Cowboys got screwed when they hit Dak in the face on the interception. So, they are even.

Ok. Does that mean the NFL should never penalize hits to QBs heads because the Cowboys had a bad call? Seems like you are just looking for revenge and that is your motivation for posting.

MarcusRock · Dec 5, 2021

rambo2 said:
Well, the Cowboys got burned in the 1st game last year when they called the OPI on Gallup. They got burned this year in the 1st game when they didn't call the OPI on Tampa. Then they got burned on Thanksgiving and then burned again when they let it go today. That's 4 games in 2 years.

We won this game due to a missed call:

The Schultz non-fumble that was a fumble in the Carolina game, etc. Everything evens out. But no, we're victims of Mara and Goodell's grand conspiracy. Weak.

Beaker42 · Dec 5, 2021

nightrain said:
It was a good non call. That's how to officiate a game.

My butt - it was DPI. As soon as the jersey’s tugged it should be a flag. The inconsistency in NFL flagging is infuriating.

CATCH17 · Dec 5, 2021

MarcusRock said:
We won this game due to a missed call:

The Schultz non-fumble that was a fumble in the Carolina game, etc. Everything evens out. But no, we're victims of Mara and Goodell's grand conspiracy. Weak.

Everything doesn’t even out and bad calls costs teams games.

You should be asking yourself why we have all of this technology and only certain penalties can be challenged and others can’t. It’s a way they can manipulate games.

snadler · Dec 5, 2021

People are missing the point, both were PI’s the one on Brown was because the rules say if the DB doesn’t turn his head it’s a PI, just like it’s a PI when a DB pulls the jersey of the receiver…the point is 1 was called and hurt the boys, another wasn’t called and also hurt the boys..

MarcusRock · Dec 5, 2021

CATCH17 said:
Everything doesn’t even out and bad calls costs teams games.

You should be asking yourself why we have all of this technology and only certain penalties can be challenged and others can’t. It’s a way they can manipulate games.

Or maybe they don't want the games slowing to a crawl to review every single thing and it's nothing to do with manipulating games. There are far more effective ways to do that than hoping circumstance falls a certain way so they can then enact their plan. Like with the Dez no-catch (that actually wasn't a catch), do you think there was some deal to wait for a chance to rule wrongly to keep the Cowboys down? And what if that opportunity never came?

CATCH17 · Dec 5, 2021

MarcusRock said:
Or maybe they don't want the games slowing to a crawl to review every single thing and it's nothing to do with manipulating games. There are far more effective ways to do that than hoping circumstance falls a certain way so they can then enact their plan. Like with the Dez no-catch (that actually wasn't a catch), do you think there was some deal to wait for a chance to rule wrongly to keep the Cowboys down? And what if that opportunity never came?

There is millions and millions of dollars changing hands on these games. You know that right?

MarcusRock · Dec 5, 2021

CATCH17 said:
There is millions and millions of dollars changing hands on these games. You know that right?

Sure there are, but you people are choosing probably the most convoluted way to manipulate a game if that's the goal. You need to guarantee it, not leave it to chance hoping the circumstance will come around and using the refs would be exactly that. That's why if there really is something going on, none of you conspiracy folks will ever know how it really works and just continue shooting in the dark at this angle or that angle.

MichiganCowboyFan · Dec 5, 2021

Today's absolutely should have been a penalty and the Creepy Snyder Football Team deserved to lose as they always do.

TNCowboy · Dec 5, 2021

It's a blatant penalty. There is no PI exception for "intentionally grabbing the WR's jersey". This isn't incidental contact of 2 players going for the ball or their legs getting tangled. Really no debate that it's a penalty.

Mk2_Cowboys · Dec 5, 2021

Obviously a penalty that would have been called on cowboys because it was .

nightrain · Dec 6, 2021

fivetwos said:
Yeah...and the difference is this time there wasn't a Hochuli trying to show the most watched game in 30 years that they work out and should be celebrities.

That game took over 3-1/2 hours to play because of all the ridiculous penalties. Hoculi and his ilk shoudl have all been suspended after that debacle.

Beaker42 said:
My butt - it was DPI. As soon as the jersey’s tugged it should be a flag. The inconsistency in NFL flagging is infuriating.

They should "consistently" let them play and stop the yellow madness.

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