Cowboys not the same team without Amari Cooper

MountaineerCowboy · Dec 7, 2021

88sAndHeartbreak said:
Do you think Rush would've won that game if the Cowboys defense had given up 500 yards? Because that's what Dak had to overcome without Cooper AND Lamb

I have no idea what would've happened.

Every game that Dak has played would have been played differently if Cooper Rush was playing QB, therefor, it's impossible to say outcomes would have been the same.

RonnieT24 · Dec 7, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
I have no idea what would've happened.

Every game that Dak has played would have been played differently if Cooper Rush was playing QB, therefor, it's impossible to say outcomes would have been the same.

Rush led the team to 20 Points.. That would have gotten losses to Carolina, Philly, Vegas, Denver, Tampa and New England.. and a tie against the Giants? OT win or loss? Let's call it a win.. 6-6 ? Would anybody here be happy about this team at 6-6? Would we be jumping up and down about how wise the front office was not to sign Dak if this team was 6-6? While Dak would likely be 10-2 with New England and leading the MVP race? Of course not.. the same people who didn't want Dak signed would be blasting the front office for blowing that whole thing..

MountaineerCowboy · Dec 7, 2021

RonnieT24 said:
Rush led the team to 20 Points.. That would have gotten losses to Carolina, Philly, Vegas, Denver, Tampa and New England.. and a tie against the Giants? OT win or loss? Let's call it a win.. 6-6 ? Would anybody here be happy about this team at 6-6? Would we be jumping up and down about how wise the front office was not to sign Dak if this team was 6-6? While Dak would likely be 10-2 with New England and leading the MVP race? Of course not.. the same people who didn't want Dak signed would be blasting the front office for blowing that whole thing..

You're implying that because we scored 20 against the Vikings that would have happened in all those other games too.

You and I do not know how those games would have went with Rush playing QB. I'd prefer Dak always play ahead of Rush, because I believe he's better, but to act like we know for a fact we'd lose those games if Rush played instead of Dak is disingenuous because we don't know that.

DC Cowboy · Dec 7, 2021

Whirlwin said:
I truly believe he’s the game changer. Prescott absolutely trust him. The perfect route runner. We’re not the same team on offense without him. Prescott and Amari stay healthy , This team win the whole thing

not sure I asgree with this BUT Dak needs to realize it is ok to take the check down every now and then. Stop locking in on a WR.

RonnieT24 · Dec 7, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
You're implying that because we scored 20 against the Vikings that would have happened in all those other games too.

You and I do not know how those games would have went with Rush playing QB. I'd prefer Dak always play ahead of Rush, because I believe he's better, but to act like we know for a fact we'd lose those games if Rush played instead of Dak is disingenuous because we don't know that.

Of course no one knows exactly how things would play out. But I was being generous in calling it 6-6. Frankly this team is no better than 4-8 with Rush as its starter.. They don't beat the Chargers, Pats and probably Eagles with the sort of offensive output he generated. MAYBE they beat the Falcons, Giants, Panthers and Vikings.. but IMHO that's about it. No I don't think we would have scored 20 points in all those games.. I think against teams that prepared for Rush and not Prescott it would have been less. I happy Rush was able to step in and get us a win on a one game basis ..I just don't see it as anywhere remotely near sustainable.

Whirlwin · Dec 7, 2021

DC Cowboy said:
not sure I asgree with this BUT Dak needs to realize it is ok to take the check down every now and then. Stop locking in on a WR.

He doesn’t lock in

Whirlwin · Dec 7, 2021

GuitarBytes said:
well, if no running game, Dak can't, if no Amari, Dak can't, if no Lamb, Dak can't, because the OL, Dak can't, so, why did they pay so much money to a QB that I couldn't?

So another words you just don’t like Prescott LMAO

CowboyRoy · Dec 7, 2021

Jstopper said:
It’s insane that you have so much pride that you will double down on your takes even when the whole world sees that you’re wrong. We saw what Ceedee was without cooper, boy couldn’t do anything until he got knocked out at halftime. As i told you during the summer, Cooper is the straw that stirs the drink not Lamb

look at the stats. Lamb is #1.

who is the whole world? A handful of Cooper apologists on a homer forum?

Dak threw for 375 and 3tds with a 106 qbr without lamb or Cooper so don’t give me your one sample size game BS.

Whirlwin · Dec 7, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
look at the stats. Lamb is #1.

who is the whole world? A handful of Cooper apologists on a homer forum?

Dak threw for 375 and 3tds with a 106 qbr without lamb or Cooper so don’t give me your one sample size game BS.

Who does Prescott trust the most. Cooper. Forget the statistics. Yes CD is the better receiver. But Cooper and Prescott have a better continuity

GORICO · Dec 7, 2021

Whirlwin said:
I truly believe he’s the game changer. Prescott absolutely trust him. The perfect route runner. We’re not the same team on offense without him. Prescott and Amari stay healthy , This team win the whole thing

Whirlwin---i remember 2018 when we gave up first round pick to get Cooper...we lost first game with his first start making us 3-5...but then went 7-1 to win NFC East and one wild card win over Seahawks....

Cooper changed everything for this team....and is still not coverable when healthy....now throw in Lamb and Gallup and even Wilson and Turner.....and back when we won 6 in a row and Dak was throwing

dimes and his reading coverage and mechanics were great...after calf injury Dak is really regressing in seeing field and mechanics.....i hope it is fixable real soon

Whirlwin · Dec 7, 2021

GORICO said:
Whirlwin---i remember 2018 when we gave up first round pick to get Cooper...we lost first game with his first start making us 3-5...but then went 7-1 to win NFC East and one wild card win over Seahawks....

Cooper changed everything for this team....and is still not coverable when healthy....now throw in Lamb and Gallup and even Wilson and Turner.....and back when we won 6 in a row and Dak was throwing

dimes and his reading coverage and mechanics were great...after calf injury Dak is really regressing in seeing field and mechanics.....i hope it is fixable real soon

I think Prescott has his best continuity with Cooper. Simply because of his perfect route running. Prescott knows exactly where he’s going to be and he doesn’t have to process it. That’s the difference. Not that Cooper is better than the other receivers. But in that one particular aspect is the best in the league

stiletto · Dec 7, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
look at the stats. Lamb is #1.

who is the whole world? A handful of Cooper apologists on a homer forum?

Dak threw for 375 and 3tds with a 106 qbr without lamb or Cooper so don’t give me your one sample size game BS.

Amari opens it all up for Lamb AND the other receivers. It's not the other way around yet.. that has been proven for about 4 years.

I think it is silly to argue about the two anyways because it is great to have them both and we need to keep them together as long as possible. Since Amari has gotten here our best chance of winning is with him on the field. We haven't won a game without Cooper since he got to town. 4 years is a pretty decent sample size.

GORICO · Dec 7, 2021

Whirlwin said:
I think Prescott has his best continuity with Cooper. Simply because of his perfect route running. Prescott knows exactly where he’s going to be and he doesn’t have to process it. That’s the difference. Not that Cooper is better than the other receivers. But in that one particular aspect is the best in the league

that was encouraging...thanks

GORICO · Dec 7, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
look at the stats. Lamb is #1.

who is the whole world? A handful of Cooper apologists on a homer forum?

Dak threw for 375 and 3tds with a 106 qbr without lamb or Cooper so don’t give me your one sample size game BS.

mr Roy--well then i will take this one sample size game BS and all my toys and leave the sandbox....suppose to be a joke...still waiting for a call from Comedy Central ( they promised. dont call us now we'll call you)

CATCH17 · Dec 7, 2021

DC Cowboy said:
not sure I asgree with this BUT Dak needs to realize it is ok to take the check down every now and then. Stop locking in on a WR.

Watching these game tapes you see the check down there a lot.

Tony Pollard and even a healthy Zeke are not guys you give that kind of space to.

I watch Brady week in and week out throw to that fat boy Fournette in acres of space and he just does work.

It’s so simple and something we should be phenomenal at.

Techsass · Dec 7, 2021

Ranching said:
If he dictates the weather, he's pretty special......lol

Play nice

Dak has a good repoire with all the receivers,It's just that Cooper gets where he expects him to be better

GuitarBytes · Dec 7, 2021

Whirlwin said:
So another words you just don’t like Prescott LMAO

I am not against Dak, I am against the contract that he asked for, and the one that was given to him, is not giving even half of what that contract is. And because of that, free agency will be limited to trinkets, that is the difference

buybuydandavis · Dec 7, 2021

Whirlwin said:
I truly believe he’s the game changer. Prescott absolutely trust him. The perfect route runner. We’re not the same team on offense without him. Prescott and Amari stay healthy , This team win the whole thing

Cooper is our only WR whose speed defenses need to respect. Needs to be doubled or he'll hurt you.

Whirlwin · Dec 7, 2021

GuitarBytes said:
I am not against Dak, I am against the contract that he asked for, and the one that was given to him, is not giving even half of what that contract is. And because of that, free agency will be limited to trinkets, that is the difference

Well he proved he deserved it. He didn’t hold out like Elliott . And besides that this team is never never big in free agency.

dmq · Dec 7, 2021

Dak needs CeeDee more than Cooper,

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