Talking Cowboys trashing Vander Esch

JoeKing · Dec 10, 2021

Cmac said:
News flash.......right now LVE is not ok to be on the field.

In your opinion.

T-RO · Dec 10, 2021

Zordon said:

Zordon the Great, Zordon the God.

The Z-God knows the minds, hearts and intentions of Cowboys players. And He Judges All with His all-Knowing Judgment.

Until mommy says, "Lights out, bed-time, lil one."

CowboyoWales · Dec 10, 2021

Cas2800 said:
We need to find out now and not wait till the playoffs. Give them more playing time. Can't be much worse than what's on the field now.

What's the benefit of cutting LVE at this point? There's no financial benefit and would just make us even more shorthanded at a position where we've already lost Jaylon and Cox.

Corso said:
At this point it's personnel and that's really sad.
Jabril Cox would be manning the helm, if not for injury, but really: this team does not have a player better than LVE right now.

As terrible as that sounds.

I wish he didn't have his injuries and was who he was, but he is who he is so...

It is what it is.

Hadenough · Dec 10, 2021

Too many injuries! The neck injury has taken away that seek and destroy mentality and I don't blame LVE.

irving · Dec 10, 2021

For those who say they can’t blame LVE for being in self preservation mode, no you can’t blame him. However that doesn’t excuse the fact that he shouldn’t be on the field for Dallas.

DuncanIso · Dec 10, 2021

Looks like LVE Hate is the new Jaylon Hate. 8/

his stats are not terrible.

I’d like to see more combo tackles though.

Cmac · Dec 10, 2021

JoeKing said:
In your opinion.

Bet you had no problem dissecting Jaylon Smith's play. All good.

tomsanders921 · Dec 10, 2021

Yoshimitsu said:
He's just soft. A guy that big and athletic is such a waste with how soft he plays.

Darius leanord was chosen after him in that draft.

Everyone fell in love with the fact that they didn't have 11 on 11 football on his high school team.

It was easy to see he was a gamble. I didn't like the pick when it happened. But I admit I thought I was wrong after his great rookie season. But he has pretty much regressed every year.

adbutcher · Dec 10, 2021

I rather have Jaylon. At least he gave an effort. I wish we could take Jaylon's heart and put it in LVE's body. Right now, LVE is playing like a cowardly lion.

mardwin · Dec 10, 2021

Streetwise said:
LVE's injuries in the past have prevented him from performing at his best. Fans trashing his effort or any other personal crap need to get a clue. You can clearly see he's not as mobile and has slowed down.

I don't blame LVE, I blame the people that decided to take a risk on a guy with injury red flags in the 1st round. Just like we took a risk Jaylon coming from a major knee injury.

G2 · Dec 10, 2021

mardwin said:
I don't blame LVE, I blame the people that decided to take a risk on a guy with injury red flags in the 1st round. Just like we took a risk Jaylon coming from a major knee injury.

That was a trend. Wasn't worth the risk.

Stash · Dec 10, 2021

DuncanIso said:
Looks like LVE Hate is the new Jaylon Hate. 8/

his stats are not terrible.

I’d like to see more combo tackles though.

Where the people you’re calling “haters” were right in their valid criticism of his play? Where you got it 100% wrong?

Stash · Dec 10, 2021

tomsanders921 said:
Darius leanord was chosen after him in that draft.

Everyone fell in love with the fact that they didn't have 11 on 11 football on his high school team.

It was easy to see he was a gamble. I didn't like the pick when it happened. But I admit I thought I was wrong after his great rookie season. But he has pretty much regressed every year.

And the concerns about him being able to take on and disengage from blockers look warranted too. In college and early on, he could move so well that he simply avoided them and now that his athleticism is reduced, he can’t.

Stash · Dec 10, 2021

Streetwise said:
That was a trend. Wasn't worth the risk.

Nope. We were burned repeatedly doing that.

SteveTheCowboy · Dec 10, 2021

BleedSilverandBlue said:
I think people forget that the dude suffered a career threatening neck injury in 2020. Before that he was actually a good player for us. It is clear that the injury has sapped quite a bit of his flexibility and athleticism. Injuries, especially spinal injuries, happen and they do have long term impacts on athletes. Look at what happened to Jaylon. He never quite recovered from the drop foot and you could always tell something was not right.

We haven;t forgotten.

But it doesn't matter the why of it. If you aren't up to it then you got to go. He clearly cannot perform the duties expected of his position. It's too bad but it's the way of it.

b0xZZ · Dec 10, 2021

Watch this play at the 1:01 mark in the video to see the difference between Parsons and LVE. Parsons literally has to push him out of the way to go make the play

CalPolyTechnique · Dec 10, 2021

adbutcher said:
I rather have Jaylon. At least he gave an effort. I wish we could take Jaylon's heart and put it in LVE's body. Right now, LVE is playing like a cowardly lion.

Luuuuulz, smh. Yeah, Jaylon really was a maximum effort guy.

Aven8 · Dec 10, 2021

Cmac said:
And you really believing that or searching to excuse his play?

He’s definitely better than Jaylon….but having said that I’ve seen traffic cones that are too.

SteveTheCowboy · Dec 10, 2021

DuncanIso said:
Looks like LVE Hate is the new Jaylon Hate. 8/

his stats are not terrible.

I’d like to see more combo tackles though.

He should be a complete beast. He's ranked pretty low on this list:

https://www.pff.com/nfl/grades/position/lb

CalPolyTechnique · Dec 10, 2021

Cmac said:
News flash.......right now LVE is not ok to be on the field.

100%

You could remove Parsons from the equation and still come to the same conclusion about LVE analyzing his play individually.

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