What a loss to Wash could mean

Diehardblues said:

I’m not just talking about this loss . But about what this loss could lead to pending results of the season.

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every game is big when u only play 17 games especially when its a divisional game. agree-game is important but dont think a loss will have the impact ur suggesting
I'll be honest tho- I think we win this game

ESisback said:

We have to be TRULY formidable, because we not only have to overcome an opponent, but other factors:
1)Every opponents seems to maximize their effort (bring their A game) against Dallas.
2)We have to overcome refs. Not the NUMBER of flags as much as the oddly “perfect” timing.

I look at what benefit$ the league most. A Dallas blowout seems least likely, because a lot of viewers would tune out in the second half, plus the rematch on the 26th would lose its appeal for a HUGE demo…ABD’s. A narrow Dallas win would retain viewers for tomorrow’s game, but not the 26th. A narrow WFT win would bring ratings tomorrow, excite the ABD’s and guarantee a ratings bonanza on 12/26, and give the TV “journalists” a week’s worth of high drama to milk. A WFT blowout would be so unbelievable it would hurt their credibility, even among the brainwashed sheeple.

So which scenario seems most likely?

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What a perspective . Not sure I’d take the league serious with that frame of mind. Wow

I do believe the Cowboys win this game because I agree with the OP that the wheels begin to come off with a loss to a team that few feel is equal to Dallas in talent. They have to win and not for the standings but for the attitude of the ship, can't you see the lean? If they can't win this game, how do you think they'd do against AZ, GB, TB, LAR or even WFT in the playoffs?

What does a WFT win mean? It means the WFT, while not as talented, played better as a team than Dallas and with this call for a win by the HC and backed up by the QB that "we're coming on" would have been wasted and nothing more than talk for the media.

Ever since McC made his comments that Dallas will win I have been looking for motive behind that. That seems out of character from what I've seen of him and I think he felt he had to do something not expected of him or any other Cowboys HC in 28 years.

McC wasn't speaking to the media, he was talking to his team. How many were listening?

Wash has 5 division games remaining. Even if they beat us on Sunday, they still have home and away with Philly, who now is in the running for a WC…and a NYG team that should’ve beaten them earlier. I think Wash loses at least one or two of those games.

Diehardblues said:

What a perspective . Not sure I’d take the league serious with that frame of mind. Wow

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Honestly, it’s hard for me personally to take the league as seriously as I used to. After seeing what the 1%ers are willing to do for profits in not just sports, but in all facets of society, nothing really surprises me anymore. I still hope that our destiny is still largely in our hands, though.

I don't like this thread regardless of context. Just bad energy. Waste of space and time.

If Washington wins out they win the division. If Dallas wins out then they win the division. If the Eagles win out they would need Dallas to finish no better than 9-8,or go 1-4 over their last 5 games.

If Dallas wins 3 of their games, and one is against Washington, they win the division.

If Washington splits with Dallas and they both finish at 10-7, Washington wins the division with a better division record. For this to happen Dallas can only win 2 more games and Washington can only lose 1 more game.

If Dallas and the Eagles tie at 10-7, Dallas would win the division today by a better point differential. But the Eagles would have to win out to get to 10-7. If they do, they would eliminate Washington on their way to doing it.

If Dallas beats Washington and then the NY Giants, and the Eagles split with Washington, Dallas wins the division.

The key game for Dallas is the NY Giants. That is a must win game, especially if they lose to Washington. If they beat Washington and then the NY Giants, the Cowboys put a lot of pressure on the Eagles and WFT who must both win out - and they play each other twice.

That's math though. If Dallas loses to the WFT tomorrow they put all the pressure on themselves the next two weeks. Who knows what a lose would do to their psyche.

Last year.

Tampa Bay with 5 weeks to go, the Bucs entered a similar situation

• they had lost 2 of their last 3 games....just like Dallas
• had 5 games left....just like Dallas

Oh no! If they lose the next game, surely the end is near!

Well they DID lose the next game (which would be like Dallas losing this week)

Then they never lost again.

Please stop with the hyperbole

DFWJC said:

Last year.

Tampa Bay with 5 weeks to go, the Bucs entered a similar situation

• they had lost 2 of their last 3 games....just like Dallas
• had 5 games left....just like Dallas

Oh no! If they lose the next game, surely the end is near!

Well they DID lose the next game (which would be like Dallas losing this week)

Then they never lost again.

Please stop with the hyperbole

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Good point. Though Tampa did have the greatest QB who ever played the game on their side. However your point well taken -- we are still very much in full control of our destiny even if we lose tomorrow.

ESisback said:

Honestly, it’s hard for me personally to take the league as seriously as I used to. After seeing what the 1%ers are willing to do for profits in not just sports, but in all facets of society, nothing really surprises me anymore. I still hope that our destiny is still largely in our hands, though.

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It’s amazing that when the Cowboys had more success and winning championships there wasn’t this level of conspiracy and corruption within the league and officials against the Cowboys.

Now all of that has changed I guess. And other teams aren’t as effected as the Cowboys are. Very interesting. All the while no one has come forth. Where’s 60 minutes.

Perhaps one of the greatest coverups at least in modern era with everything available almost instantaneously with technology of this era . Truly remarkable. Thanks for your contribution!

Diehardblues said:

It’s amazing that when the Cowboys had more success and winning championships there wasn’t this level of conspiracy and corruption within the league and officials against the Cowboys.

Now all of that has changed I guess. And other teams aren’t as effected as the Cowboys are. Very interesting. All the while no one has come forth. Where’s 60 minutes.

Perhaps one of the greatest coverups at least in modern era with everything available almost instantaneously with technology of this era . Truly remarkable. Thanks for your contribution!

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And thanks for yours! Pardon me if I don’t have the same naive, idealistic trust in the 1%ers that you apparently do. Maybe you’ve been more insulated from it, being local, a few years older and a few dollars richer. But that just a theory. And yes, there WASN’T this level of possible corruption, media attention, drama, biased reporting, and an overall negative downturn of everything in the early 90’s, like there is now. Haven’t you noticed America deteriorating?

I keep telling people that it’s insidious, but they just don’t seem to hear that part. It’s impossible to prove anything, it’s just a feeling you get after seeing so many odd coincidences, and knowing in your heart that these warm and fuzzy corporate conglomerates might not always have the same priorities.

Zero chance they lose to the Commanders.

Diehardblues said:

That’s basically been the reaction from my closer Cowboy friends here. That a loss would scream we aren’t contenders.

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Win or lose I don't think we're real contenders.

Diehardblues said:

What a perspective . Not sure I’d take the league serious with that frame of mind. Wow

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You still take this league seriously?

stasheroo said:

Do you really think Jerry would fire (and pay) him with three years left on his deal?

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I actually think it’s possible but probably less than 50-50. Jerry knows he’s not long for this world. I wonder if the Garrett experiment blowing up in his face makes him more likely to move quickly, especially if there is a coach out there he likes.

Blowing this division would be an incredibly tough pill for Jerry to swallow.

Sydla said:

I actually think it’s possible but probably less than 50-50. Jerry knows he’s not long for this world. I wonder if the Garrett experiment blowing up in his face makes him more likely to move quickly, especially if there is a coach out there he likes.

Blowing this division would be an incredibly tough pill for Jerry to swallow.

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I can’t see it at this point, barring a total collapse bordering on team mutiny. And I don’t see that as a reasonable possibility.

Sydla said:

I actually think it’s possible but probably less than 50-50. Jerry knows he’s not long for this world. I wonder if the Garrett experiment blowing up in his face makes him more likely to move quickly, especially if there is a coach out there he likes.

Blowing this division would be an incredibly tough pill for Jerry to swallow.

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Firing MM is starting over again........I know some are saying promote KM or Quinn but hell, wouldn't they be part of the reason you fired Mike? Also, firing MM is basically firing all assistant coaches also unless you're planning on forcing them on your new hire. Just don't see it happening. It creates more questions than answers, not to mention paying off a boatload of the contract is pretty expensive.

For me, the question is real simple........has MM, in two seasons, proven to be worst than Garrett? IMO that's a hard no......

stasheroo said:

I can’t see it at this point, barring a total collapse bordering on team mutiny. And I don’t see that as a reasonable possibility.

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100%

Diehardblues said:

First of all I’m not predicting a loss , I’m just imagining what it could mean to this season and team. It would drop us to 8-5 only 1 game ahead in division to Wash at 7-6 with a rematch basically for the division in 2 weeks.

Which isn’t the end and the division title could still be out there for us . A win in 2 weeks could put us 2 games up with 2 to go . Pretty good shape… except.

I think there’s some bigger underlying conditions going on here and why our HC felt inclined to make such a boisterous gesture. He senses the weight of this game not only to the season but the hype around this team being a SB contender .

After starting off like one of the best teams this year we’ve fallen in recent weeks and this could continue that Freefall to greater depths . The media will absolutely destroy us and possibly our HC.

This could be a dumpster fire of tremendous proportions . One that might be too great for our HC to overcome moving forward. And why I think this is currently the biggest game in this HC’s tenure. And why he went out on a limb. Cause if we don’t win his future here barring a deep playoff run will be in question moving forward.

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Honestly....If we go down there and lay an egg....I'd fire McCarthy and promote Quinn. There is no more excuses anymore. This is MM's show....there is more than enough talent to win. Everyone has injuries....and he's had more than enough time to implement his program. It's time to start pounding out "Wins"....

Diehardblues said:

I think we could say we might not longer be contenders with a loss. That’s the vibe I’m getting here locally when I’ve offered up this thought .

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Right now I'm more on the "I won't be blown away amazed if we get to the SB" than the "I expect to get to the SB" band wagon. Washington is playing well and should beat both Philly & NY, but not us. If they do beat us, than something wrong is happening in Frisco.