DT rotation vs Washington

J-man · Dec 15, 2021

LB/DE Parsons: 54
DE DeMarcus Lawrence: 47
DE Randy Gregory: 31
3 T Odighizuwa: 30
3 T Neville Gallimore: 30
DE Dorance Armstrong: 29
1 T DT Trysten Hill: 28
DE Tarell Basham: 27
DE Carlos Watkins: 19
DE Chauncey Golston: 18
1 T DT Quinton Bohanna: 7

This is the snap count from the game Sunday. That's a pretty good group of pass rushers and I love the rotation to keep guys fresh.
But does anything stand out to ya'll? What I see is a whole lot of DE's, a couple 3 tech's, but very very little true 1 Tech players and/or plays for them.
I see this as an advantage in passing situations, but on short yardage/goal line and on running plays in general we are being "out weighed" on the inside. True 1 tech DT has long been overlooked by this FO and it still is hurting this team.

Bohanna at 360# is our only true 1 Tech on this team. And tbh, he just isn't ready for the trenches.

We have 3 IMO, tweeners:
Hill is 308#
Watkins (listed as a DE?) is 305#
Gallimore is 302#

Odigi at 280# is a true 3 Tech
Now these weights maybe wrong, but this is what is listed on the team site so it's what I'm going off of.

RS12 · Dec 15, 2021

A lot of ok at DT. Would love one difference maker.

Beaker42 · Dec 15, 2021

Gallimore is strong like bull. He can play 1T just because of that as he drove WFT’s C back into Heinicke, got the sack and hurt the C in the process. Baby Vea.

CCBoy · Dec 15, 2021

J-man said:
LB/DE Parsons: 54

DE DeMarcus Lawrence: 47

DE Randy Gregory: 31

3 T Odighizuwa: 30

3 T Neville Gallimore: 30

DE Dorance Armstrong: 29

1 T DT Trysten Hill: 28

DE Tarell Basham: 27

DE Carlos Watkins: 19

DE Chauncey Golston: 18

1 T DT Quinton Bohanna: 7

This is the snap count from the game Sunday. That's a pretty good group of pass rushers and I love the rotation to keep guys fresh.
But does anything stand out to ya'll? What I see is a whole lot of DE's, a couple 3 tech's, but very very little true 1 Tech players and/or plays for them.
I see this as an advantage in passing situations, but on short yardage/goal line and on running plays in general we are being "out weighed" on the inside. True 1 tech DT has long been overlooked by this FO and it still is hurting this team.

Bohanna at 360# is our only true 1 Tech on this team. And tbh, he just isn't ready for the trenches.

We have 3 IMO, tweeners:
Hill is 308#
Watkins (listed as a DE?) is 305#
Gallimore is 302#

Odigi at 280# is a true 3 Tech
Now these weights maybe wrong, but this is what is listed on the team site so it's what I'm going off of.

Good topic here, and their on carpet numbers will remain of interest through the remainder of season...

CCBoy · Dec 15, 2021

Beaker42 said:
Gallimore is strong like bull. He can play 1T just because of that as he drove WFT’s C back into Heinicke, got the sack and hurt the C in the process. Baby Vea.

Is he a trash can full of dirt?

J-man · Dec 15, 2021

Beaker42 said:
Gallimore is strong like bull. He can play 1T just because of that as he drove WFT’s C back into Heinicke, got the sack and hurt the C in the process. Baby Vea.

The play you are referring to was a pass play.

I love Gallimore, but he's a 3 Tech. Yes, he can play 1 Tech, but he isn't a 1 Tech. He is a perfect fit to play 1 tech on passing downs, as he can use his speed to get push inside. Especially now with Odigi here to play the 3 when he slides over. That's a fantastic "nascar" package of D-Law, Odigi, Galli and Gregory!
But when he plays 1 Tech on a regular basis, he can and does still get moved on most running plays.
We need a beast at the 1 tech. We hope Bohanna can develop into that player, time will tell.

thunderpimp91 · Dec 15, 2021

Beaker42 said:
Gallimore is strong like bull. He can play 1T just because of that as he drove WFT’s C back into Heinicke, got the sack and hurt the C in the process. Baby Vea.

I love me some Gallimore, but i'm hesitant to put him in as a 1T. He seems to be a plus pass rusher, but has struggled against the run going back to last year, especially double teams. Not knocking the guy, but reading blocks at the NFL level takes time/reps. I'd rotate him in mostly on passing downs and let him play a shoot the gap role. Only issue is that seems to be what the majority of our DTs are right now.

speedkilz88 · Dec 15, 2021

Those weights are from when Marinelli was here. Both look to be up in weight. Quinn moved a 3t to 1t in Seattle and won a championship.

visionary · Dec 15, 2021

We’ve needed a 1T for years but our FO just does not think it’s important just like safety

JayFord · Dec 15, 2021

Beaker42 said:
Gallimore is strong like bull. He can play 1T just because of that as he drove WFT’s C back into Heinicke, got the sack and hurt the C in the process. Baby Vea.

I didnt know Gallimore was that big

dude is like a mountain

Denim Chicken · Dec 15, 2021

J-man said:
But does anything stand out to ya'll?

Too much Hill

dogberry · Dec 15, 2021

What does Aaron Donald weigh?

J-man · Dec 15, 2021

dogberry said:
What does Aaron Donald weigh?

I think 280ish, he's a 3 T

Zman5 · Dec 15, 2021

Ratliff was a NT at 305 lbs. He was awesome before going cray cray.

JeffInDC · Dec 15, 2021

According to the Media Guide, the DT weights were:

Hill - 300lbs. (he looks even SMALLER now)
OO - 294
Gallimore - 310 (looks even bigger)
Urban - 308
Watkins - 305
Bohanna - 330
Hamilton - 315

fivetwos · Dec 15, 2021

J-man said:
LB/DE Parsons: 54

DE DeMarcus Lawrence: 47

DE Randy Gregory: 31

3 T Odighizuwa: 30

3 T Neville Gallimore: 30

DE Dorance Armstrong: 29

1 T DT Trysten Hill: 28

DE Tarell Basham: 27

DE Carlos Watkins: 19

DE Chauncey Golston: 18

1 T DT Quinton Bohanna: 7

This is the snap count from the game Sunday. That's a pretty good group of pass rushers and I love the rotation to keep guys fresh.
But does anything stand out to ya'll? What I see is a whole lot of DE's, a couple 3 tech's, but very very little true 1 Tech players and/or plays for them.
I see this as an advantage in passing situations, but on short yardage/goal line and on running plays in general we are being "out weighed" on the inside. True 1 tech DT has long been overlooked by this FO and it still is hurting this team.

Bohanna at 360# is our only true 1 Tech on this team. And tbh, he just isn't ready for the trenches.

We have 3 IMO, tweeners:
Hill is 308#
Watkins (listed as a DE?) is 305#
Gallimore is 302#

Odigi at 280# is a true 3 Tech
Now these weights maybe wrong, but this is what is listed on the team site so it's what I'm going off of.

A more talented Bohanna is what you're looking for and I doubt many would say that you're not right.

exciter · Dec 15, 2021

J-man said:
LB/DE Parsons: 54

DE DeMarcus Lawrence: 47

DE Randy Gregory: 31

3 T Odighizuwa: 30

3 T Neville Gallimore: 30

DE Dorance Armstrong: 29

1 T DT Trysten Hill: 28

DE Tarell Basham: 27

DE Carlos Watkins: 19

DE Chauncey Golston: 18

1 T DT Quinton Bohanna: 7

This is the snap count from the game Sunday. That's a pretty good group of pass rushers and I love the rotation to keep guys fresh.
But does anything stand out to ya'll? What I see is a whole lot of DE's, a couple 3 tech's, but very very little true 1 Tech players and/or plays for them.
I see this as an advantage in passing situations, but on short yardage/goal line and on running plays in general we are being "out weighed" on the inside. True 1 tech DT has long been overlooked by this FO and it still is hurting this team.

Bohanna at 360# is our only true 1 Tech on this team. And tbh, he just isn't ready for the trenches.

We have 3 IMO, tweeners:
Hill is 308#
Watkins (listed as a DE?) is 305#
Gallimore is 302#

Odigi at 280# is a true 3 Tech
Now these weights maybe wrong, but this is what is listed on the team site so it's what I'm going off of.

Bohanna was #327 at the combine, if anything he’s lost weight since then. Where are you coming up with 360 and exactly when did players have to weigh that much to be a true 1tech in a 43? Exactly when did Watkins who has been the starting 1tech all season start playing DE, every time I noticed him he was playing 1tech and slid out so Gregory could stunt inside. Jumping to the 18 point lead in the 1st allowed them to slide the 3tech to the 1 and one of the DEs (Lawrence in many instances) inside. Were able to play that alignment quite often as Washington only called 18 runs to their backs for the game!

J-man · Dec 15, 2021

exciter said:
Bohanna was #327 at the combine, if anything he’s lost weight since then. Where are you coming up with 360 and exactly when did players have to weigh that much to be a true 1tech in a 43? Exactly when did Watkins who has been the starting 1tech all season start playing DE, every time I noticed him he was playing 1tech and slid out so Gregory could stunt inside. Jumping to the 18 point lead in the 1st allowed them to slide the 3tech to the 1 and one of the DEs (Lawrence in many instances) inside. Were able to play that alignment quite often as Washington only called 18 runs to their backs for the game!

This is info is on the Dallas team page. Bo is listed at 360, Watkins a DE

J-man · Dec 15, 2021

JeffInDC said:
According to the Media Guide, the DT weights were:

Hill - 300lbs. (he looks even SMALLER now)

OO - 294

Gallimore - 310 (looks even bigger)

Urban - 308

Watkins - 305

Bohanna - 330

Hamilton - 315

I was looking on the team page, they have very different numbers.
Hill is 308, Odigi is 280, Gallimoe is 302, Urban is 295, Watkins 305, Bo 360,
Hamilton 315, he isn't even listed on there but is on the depth chart LOL!

JeffInDC · Dec 15, 2021

J-man said:
I was looking on the team page, they have very different numbers.
Hill is 308, Odigi is 280, Gallimoe is 302, Urban is 295, Watkins 305, Bo 360,
Hamilton 315, he isn't even listed on there but is on the depth chart LOL!

They RARELY change the info on that page. DLaw hasn’t sniffed 265 in well over 2 years and the Liram dude (the kicker) got signed to another team days ago
:laugh:

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