Tie Breakers for 1 seed

DFWJC · Dec 21, 2021

Irvin88_4life said:
You're forgetting the Rams in this equation who could win out and be 13-4 as well

Were my thoughts too, but he explained that their conference record and loss to GB probably keeps them out of top seed.

I guess......unless everyone has 5 losses.

KJJ · Dec 21, 2021

Everyone keeps talking about the number one seed on here but being the number one seed has never done the Cowboys any good at least not in recent history. We’ve had two number one seeded teams in 2007 and 2016 go one and done. The Cowboys aren’t particularly good at home. They’re 2-2 at home this season and both losses were to two teams that had losing records at the time. For some reason the Cowboys look more inspired on the road than at home.

Irvin88_4life · Dec 21, 2021

DFWJC said:
Were my thoughts too, but he explained that their conference record and loss to GB probably keeps them out of top seed.

I guess......unless everyone has 5 losses.

Good info.

I was talking about 3 or 4 way tie. Having Rams win out will secure 4th seed but help with tie breakers for Dallas

JReed1000 · Dec 21, 2021

#2 Seed ain’t bad either…#2 plays #7…home field for the next round as well.

mmohican29 · Dec 21, 2021

DFWJC said:
Our NFC schedule has been beneficial, to say the least

9 NFC games and only vs 1 team with a winning record. That seems almost impossibly fortunate.
8 wins vs teams without a winning record
1 loss vs the only team we played currently with a winning record.

But you can only play who is on your schedule. Not Dallas' fault.

So what.

TB has 2 losses vs teams we beat.

TOCowboy · Dec 21, 2021

1 seed? Let's lock up the division first. Winning the WFT game is crucial.
If Cowboys lose out, losses to WFT, Cards, Eagles they finish 10-7 and 4-2 in the Div
If Eagles win out, wins over NYG, WFT, Cowboys they finish 10-7 and 4-2 in the Div

Who wins the tie-break after that?

Diehardblues · Dec 21, 2021

We have to win out for any of these scenarios. What if we lose a game ?

12-5 seems more likely to me. What are the scenarios needed then?

BourbonBalz · Dec 21, 2021

Jumbo075 said:
If Green Bay wins out, Pacers win #1 seed by virtue of best overall win/loss record

If the Cowboys win out, Tampa Bay wins out, and Green Bay loses 1 game, there will be a 3-way tie at 13-4 in the NFC. Cowboys win #1 seed by virtue of best conference record of 11-1 vs. Green Bay (10-2) and Tampa Bay (8-4).

If Cowboys win out, and Green Bay and Tampa Bay each lose a game, then Cowboys and Packers will be tied for best record in NFC of 13-4. The Cowboys and Packers have 6 games against common opponents (Saints, Vikings, Chiefs, Football Team, Cardinals.) All 3 of Green Bays current losses are against common opponents (Saints, Chiefs, Vikings), while the Cowboys have only 1 loss against common opponents (Chiefs). If the Cowboys win out, and Green Bay loses to the Vikings, the common opponents record will be 5-1 for the Cowboys, and 2-4 for the Packers. If the Packers lose to either the Browns or Lions, then the common opponents record will be 5-1 for the Cowboys, and 3-3 for the Packers. So the Cowboys would have both the best conference record of 11-1 vs. Packers record of 10-2, or best record vs. common opponents. Cowboys would get #1 seed.

If the Packers lose 2 games, and both the Cowboys and Buccaneers win out, then there is a two way tie at 13-4 between the Cowboys and Buccaneers, and the Buccaneers win the #1 seed by virtue of Head-to-Head matchup from week 1 of the season.

Bottom Line: Cowboys need Packers to lose 1 game, and then win out to get the #1 seed. Or they need both the Packers and Buccaneers to lose 1 game, and the Cowboys win out.

If Dallas and GB end up tied at 13-4 it does not need to come down to common opponents. We would get the 1 seed because we would have the better conference record. That’s as far as it has to go.

NorthTexan95 · Dec 21, 2021

lkelly said:
The Indiana Pacers give you a like.

I don't mind if the Pacers win the top seed. With most of their players having to play every snap on offense, defense, and special teams, I don't think they can win three straight games in the playoffs,

Boyzmamacita · Dec 22, 2021

KJJ said:
Everyone keeps talking about the number one seed on here but being the number one seed has never done the Cowboys any good at least not in recent history. We’ve had two number one seeded teams in 2007 and 2016 go one and done. The Cowboys aren’t particularly good at home. They’re 2-2 at home this season and both losses were to two teams that had losing records at the time. For some reason the Cowboys look more inspired on the road than at home.

The Cowboys are 4-2 at home unless you mean NFC only, then they're 4-0.

tunahelper · Dec 22, 2021

lkelly said:
The Indiana Pacers give you a like.

It would be fun to watch skinny legged Reggie Miller run the ball. His legs would snap like twigs.

Kennybarnard32 · Dec 22, 2021

Jumbo075 said:
If Green Bay wins out, Pacers win #1 seed by virtue of best overall win/loss record

If the Cowboys win out, Tampa Bay wins out, and Green Bay loses 1 game, there will be a 3-way tie at 13-4 in the NFC. Cowboys win #1 seed by virtue of best conference record of 11-1 vs. Green Bay (10-2) and Tampa Bay (8-4).

If Cowboys win out, and Green Bay and Tampa Bay each lose a game, then Cowboys and Packers will be tied for best record in NFC of 13-4. The Cowboys and Packers have 6 games against common opponents (Saints, Vikings, Chiefs, Football Team, Cardinals.) All 3 of Green Bays current losses are against common opponents (Saints, Chiefs, Vikings), while the Cowboys have only 1 loss against common opponents (Chiefs). If the Cowboys win out, and Green Bay loses to the Vikings, the common opponents record will be 5-1 for the Cowboys, and 2-4 for the Packers. If the Packers lose to either the Browns or Lions, then the common opponents record will be 5-1 for the Cowboys, and 3-3 for the Packers. So the Cowboys would have both the best conference record of 11-1 vs. Packers record of 10-2, or best record vs. common opponents. Cowboys would get #1 seed.

If the Packers lose 2 games, and both the Cowboys and Buccaneers win out, then there is a two way tie at 13-4 between the Cowboys and Buccaneers, and the Buccaneers win the #1 seed by virtue of Head-to-Head matchup from week 1 of the season.

Bottom Line: Cowboys need Packers to lose 1 game, and then win out to get the #1 seed. Or they need both the Packers and Buccaneers to lose 1 game, and the Cowboys win out.

I may be wrong but it seems simple to me. Green Bay is what really matters. If they win out then they get the 1 seed. If GB loses one and Dallas wins out then Dallas gets the 1 seed, regardless of what the other teams do since Dallas holds the tie breakers over GB, LA, and 3-way tie breaker due to the conference record. The real worry is if Dallas and TB win out and Green Bay loses 2 and LA losses again, then TB gets the 1 seed since they hold the head to head tie breaker over Dallas. However, I doubt GB losses 2 more.

So really we need to hope for GB to lose one more and Dallas win out. I don’t think anything else really matters.

mmohican29 · Dec 22, 2021

Diehardblues said:
We have to win out for any of these scenarios. What if we lose a game ?

12-5 seems more likely to me. What are the scenarios needed then?

Who are we losing to?

We will be favored in all 3 remaining games.

KJJ · Dec 22, 2021

Boyzmamacita said:
The Cowboys are 4-2 at home unless you mean NFC only, then they're 4-0.

I meant 4-2.

Diehardblues · Dec 22, 2021

mmohican29 said:
Who are we losing to?

We will be favored in all 3 remaining games.

I’m not looking for an argument just what would be the scenarios in the event.

Weren’t we favored in in a couple of our losses like Denver and LV.

JD_KaPow · Dec 22, 2021

Diehardblues said:
We have to win out for any of these scenarios. What if we lose a game ?

12-5 seems more likely to me. What are the scenarios needed then?

It's all right here.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/the-definitive-seeding-thread.490067/

john van brocklin · Dec 22, 2021

Jumbo075 said:
If Green Bay wins out, Pacers win #1 seed by virtue of best overall win/loss record

If the Cowboys win out, Tampa Bay wins out, and Green Bay loses 1 game, there will be a 3-way tie at 13-4 in the NFC. Cowboys win #1 seed by virtue of best conference record of 11-1 vs. Green Bay (10-2) and Tampa Bay (8-4).

If Cowboys win out, and Green Bay and Tampa Bay each lose a game, then Cowboys and Packers will be tied for best record in NFC of 13-4. The Cowboys and Packers have 6 games against common opponents (Saints, Vikings, Chiefs, Football Team, Cardinals.) All 3 of Green Bays current losses are against common opponents (Saints, Chiefs, Vikings), while the Cowboys have only 1 loss against common opponents (Chiefs). If the Cowboys win out, and Green Bay loses to the Vikings, the common opponents record will be 5-1 for the Cowboys, and 2-4 for the Packers. If the Packers lose to either the Browns or Lions, then the common opponents record will be 5-1 for the Cowboys, and 3-3 for the Packers. So the Cowboys would have both the best conference record of 11-1 vs. Packers record of 10-2, or best record vs. common opponents. Cowboys would get #1 seed.

If the Packers lose 2 games, and both the Cowboys and Buccaneers win out, then there is a two way tie at 13-4 between the Cowboys and Buccaneers, and the Buccaneers win the #1 seed by virtue of Head-to-Head matchup from week 1 of the season.

Bottom Line: Cowboys need Packers to lose 1 game, and then win out to get the #1 seed. Or they need both the Packers and Buccaneers to lose 1 game, and the Cowboys win out.

Thanks, hope we get that number one seed

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