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RonnieT24

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You actually can take that exact stats and make a comparison...its why its there. and with the "other factors" your case gets worse..again his team was good enough to take a backup QB to a SB...he then had a mealtdown after being injured and got benched in favor of Jaylon Hurts, literally cost the coach his job by underperforming...this year his "Bounce back" year is doing better but is still not completing passes at a rate that compares with Dak...so again you literally have nothing backing your claim that Wentz is more Accurate than Dak other than you like the way he looks more.

You are correct.. Dude just doesn't like Dak and no amount of evidence that he's better than Wentz will change his mind. It is hilarious to watch people twist themselves into knots trying to justify their ABD stance.
 

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How many of those sacks were him holding onto the ball too damn long.. something his own coach mentioned multiple times last year.. Like you said.. can't take stats in a vacuum.
:laugh:

using his own words against him lol



I guess this was on the oline :laugh::lmao::lmao2:
 

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I'm not overating them. You just don't know how they stack up against other OLs which is why I used the PFF stat. Our WR core is wayyyyy better than anything in Indy. We have 3 guys that could start for them. The fact is that Wentz has a better arm and is more accurate than Dak. This is not news. He was having an MVP year as a rookie before his injury and Foles played out of his mind taking a banged up Philly team to the super bowl. Philly lost a lot of talent that offseason and Foles won the job as the reigning super bowl MVP. Thats hardly on Wentz. Proof is in the pudding. Look at him now.
I asked a simple question. PFF says Diggs is not a good CB...do you agree or disagree with PFF?
 

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Dak is not accurate. He throws the balls too high and behind his wrs on a regular basis. He has great wrs. I wasn't quoting a completion % stat b/c thats pretty meaningless. Just look at the ball Wentz throws. He has a better arm. Its obvious. Is Mac Jones the most accurate Qb in NFL history b/c he completes almost 80% of his throws? No. Most of his throws are little underneath throws and to rbs in the flat. He isn't asked to make a lot of tough throws which is what completion % is all about.
how do you know that? eye test? do you watch all other QBs and their passes? do they not throw high, low, behind, too far in front? are they all perfect? you don't get to the completion percentage he has gotten by being badly in accurate.

and he has good WRs, some teams have better. but he also produces with the WRs he has...Wince proved he can't even having a good and great players around him. we know that for sure. that's why his team dumped him, realizing they can win with Foles and Wince being over rated.

the QB has a job to put the ball as close to the WR as possible. sometimes he has to throw it where the defenders can't make a play, but allow his WRs to make plays. we have also seen the WRs drop passes that hit them in the chest...yet no discussion of that.

if all you have is your eye test, then get new glasses....if you can't provide any stats that prove your point. then you have nothing.
 

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Dak has more yards, more TDs, more wins, higher passer rating, higher completion percentage.. but in some alternate universe Wentz is playing better this year. Sure..
and Wince has a better running game to support him, yet this same people criticized Dak for relying on the running game and being a bus driver. Taylor is leading the league in rushing, and he has almost double the yards Zeke has. Taylor has more yards than Zeke and Pollard combined.... go figure
 

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I'm not overating them. You just don't know how they stack up against other OLs which is why I used the PFF stat. Our WR core is wayyyyy better than anything in Indy. We have 3 guys that could start for them. The fact is that Wentz has a better arm and is more accurate than Dak. This is not news. He was having an MVP year as a rookie before his injury and Foles played out of his mind taking a banged up Philly team to the super bowl. Philly lost a lot of talent that offseason and Foles won the job as the reigning super bowl MVP. Thats hardly on Wentz. Proof is in the pudding. Look at him now.
FYI, Dak was rookie of the year, not Wentz.

The "MVP" type year was in 2017.

Also, in no dimension is Wentz more accurate than Dak.

Other than that, you are spot on! :)
 

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Did he really get expose, or did McVay get expose? Gurley wasn't the only player they lost. They lost their pro-bowl center in Saffold and another great O-lineman in Sullivan.

If I'm not mistaken, Stafford also threw 3 picks with McVay as his coach? And if I'm not mistaken Stafford has more picks this year than Goff has in any year.
so McVay, who went to a superbowl, won the division twice and his team hasn't had a losing season under him is exposed....that's your explanation for why Goff is good...

wow.....you basically are saying, you know more than Mcvay..... that's a doozy
 

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FYI, Dak was rookie of the year, not Wentz.

The "MVP" type year was in 2017.

Also, in no dimension is Wentz more accurate than Dak.

Other than that, you are spot on! :)

Dak is not accurate and has a second rate arm. He makes a lot of simple short throws like Mac Jones is doing in NE. Thats just the design of the offense. Completion % means nothing in todays offenses. Look where Dak hits his wrs. The balls are often wobbly and thrown high and behind the wrs (who often catch them anyway) which is why he struggles the closer he gets to the end zone. He needs wrs running wide open in space to hit them.......like Sunday against WFT's preseason caliber defense. He also benefits greatly from the best OL in the NFL. He's not getting sacked 50 times a season like Wentz in 2020 when he had a banged up OL and nobody to throw the ball too. But in terms raw talent, Wentz wins hands down and I'd bet he would be doing just as well as Dak right now if he had dropped to Zekes spot in that draft.
 
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Dak is not accurate and has a second rate arm. He makes a lot of simple short throws like Mac Jones is doing in NE. Thats just the design of the offense. Completion % means nothing in todays offenses. Look where Dak hits his wrs. The balls are often wobbly and thrown high and behind the wrs (who often catch them anyway) which is why he struggles the closer he gets to the end zone. He needs wrs running wide open in space to hit them.......like Sunday against WFT's preseason caliber defense. He also benefits greatly from the best OL in the NFL. He's not getting sacked 50 times a season like Went in 2020 when he had a banged up OL and nobody to throw the ball too. But in terms raw talent, Went wins hands down and I'd bet he would be doing just as well as Dak right now if he had dropped to Zekes spot in that draft.
This post makes perfect sense if you ignore every data point of Dak’s career lmao

But that’s what you people do lol
 
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The impost makes perfect sense if you ignore every data point of Dak’s career lmao

Like one playoff win in 6 seasons despite having more talent around him than any other QB in the league? You must be one off those impressed by garbage time stats that Dak likes to accumulate.
 

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Dak is not accurate and has a second rate arm. He makes a lot of simple short throws like Mac Jones is doing in NE. Thats just the design of the offense. Completion % means nothing in todays offenses. Look where Dak hits his wrs. The balls are often wobbly and thrown high and behind the wrs (who often catch them anyway) which is why he struggles the closer he gets to the end zone. He needs wrs running wide open in space to hit them.......like Sunday against WFT's preseason caliber defense. He also benefits greatly from the best OL in the NFL. He's not getting sacked 50 times a season like Went in 2020 when he had a banged up OL and nobody to throw the ball too. But in terms raw talent, Went wins hands down and I'd bet he would be doing just as well as Dak right now if he had dropped to Zekes spot in that draft.


LMAO!!! No matter how often a lie is repeated it gains not an ounce of truth. You can keep repeating these lies until the cows come home.. and they will be as big a lie the thousandth time you post them as they were the first time..
 

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Like one playoff win in 6 seasons despite having more talent around him than any other QB in the league? You must be one off those impressed by garbage time stats that Dak likes to accumulate.
Yeah yeah yeah..

You people liked to trot out the stats don’t matter argument when Dak would throw for 4 bills and multiple TDs in a loss, yet when Dak had a mid-season slump this year but we still kept winning most of those games, the argument all of a sudden was stats absolutely matter.

Lol your stupid arguments change relative to the goal post you’re moving. The one thing that has consistently been exposed is that the vast majority of you naysayers are dumber than hammers and wouldn’t know good QB play from a turd floating in a toilet bowl.
 
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Yeah yeah yeah..

You people liked to trot out the stats don’t matter argument when Dak would throw for 4 bills and multiple TDs in a loss, yet when Dak had a mid-season slump this year but we still kept winning most of those games, the argument all of a sudden was stats absolutely matter.

Lol you’re stupid arguments change relative to the goal post you’re moving. The one thing that has consistently been exposed is that the vast majority of you naysayers are dumber than hammers and wouldn’t know good QB play from a turd floating in a toilet bowl.

He is the worst starting QB in the NFL inside the red zone. Thats just a fact. Look it up Bozo.
 

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He is the worst starting QB in the NFL inside the red zone. Thats just a fact. Look it up Bozo.
Lol keep looking dumber and dumber while marinading in your irrational hate as the years go on …

I’ll be here to remind you ..

hey @Captain-Crash ..

don’t be scared little man..

Engage once in a while, especially when you’re feeling that inner Mississippi in you really, really wanting to come out lol
 

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Oh here's one for you Dak fans, Dak is THE Worst starting QB in the league in the red zone. His completion % drops to 55%........ only 5 TD throws inside the 20. Thats b/c he is inaccurate and can't hit his guys unless they are wide open.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/redzone-passing.htm


Oh..

Is that the ONLY potential answer to this problem?

How have you falsified all other plausible potentialities being the primary source for this problem?

Woah…

What the hell am I doing?

That’s way too erudite a question for your smooth brain.

Ok, let me try this one one..

what’s your favorite color?
 

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