Finally got to watch this game and this game was not on Dak

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GINeric said:
Shhhh!!! Dont upset the Dak hatin weak cowards on this board who like to blame Dak for everything!! They are not only cowards on this board, but 9 times out of 10, they're cowards in real life. If you really pay close attention, you'll know who they are!!
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Dude if this is how you actually feel, looking in the mirror would be a start. If you think talking football on a message board allows you to call out a persons personal life I’d start thinking about your own self esteem and what’s important in life. I truly can’t believe that people are so tied into to one player where they just lose their mind. It’s like Garrett love on steroids. Not unexpected from a “new” poster or a second handle.
 
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Right! I’m a stubborn joke for defending Dak over the years but being objective vs a cheerleader who makes weekly excuses. Do you read what you write? I doubt you know a lick of football
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I deride Dak's performance when he deserves it. He does not deserve it right now. Stop following the haters just to fit in.
 
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Weren't the Cardinals missing some key starters, so I'm not sure we'll do any better
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Thank you very much!! AZ had bums at cornerback and yet Dak/Coop/Ceedee couldn't get it done. I'm not trying to hear ANYTHING about the refs. That fumble from Dak was atrocious and he has had a 4th Quarter turnover in 3 out of the last 4 games. Unacceptable.
 
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I deride Dak's performance when he deserves it. He does not deserve it right now. Stop following the haters just to fit in.
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You obviously don’t read my posts. Nothing I’ve ever said here belongs in a group. I don’t follow anyone though I enjoy many posters. I rarely die on a hill with the exception of Garrett dislike and I gave him time. As I’ve said I give Dak a lot and like his intangibles. Always have been a fan. He didn’t play well post injury up until WFT. Sunday looked similar in his timing and throws were off the first half. Aikman mentioned it, etc. He telegraphed 2 screens that should have been picked. It’s not a big deal. Happens. I also mentioned on the game threads that the line and Dak looked off. Dak skipped 2 throws and overshot Cooper twice. Rhythm of offense was off. He came alive late in the 3rd and in 4th when they rolled him and actually got receivers in space. I’m not sure why they don’t build rhythm with him in the hurry up. So to me he and the offense looked bad early and came alive late. I’m not going to find excuses like penalties etc because it’s all part of a sloppy offense. I think this is a pretty objective take without being blaming or harsh. Many analysts post game mentioned the same. Moore is part of the issue too. That’s it
 
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You obviously don’t read my posts. Nothing I’ve ever said here belongs in a group. I don’t follow anyone though I enjoy many posters. I rarely die on a hill with the exception of Garrett and I gave him time. As I’ve said I give Dak a lot and like his intangibles. Always have been a fan. He didn’t play well post injury up until WFT. Sunday looked similar in his timing and throws were off the first half. Aikman mentioned it, etc. He telegraphed 2 screens that should have been picked. It’s not a big deal. Happens. I also mentioned on the game threads that the line and Dak looked off. Dak skipped 2 throws and overshot Cooper twice. Rhythm of offense was off. He came alive late in the 3rd and in 4th when they rolled him and actually got receivers in space. I’m not sure why they don’t build rhythm with him in the hurry up. So to me he and the offense looked bad early and came alive late. I’m not going to find excuses like penalties etc because it’s all part of a sloppy offense. I think this is a pretty objective take without being blaming or harsh. Many analysts post game mentioned the same. Moore is part of the issue too. That’s it
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That's sound and reasonable. I don't like much of Troy anymore. Always quick to judge, yet he fails to remember how "off" his passes were at times. Just look at his career stats by year. 6 out of his 12 years, Troy averaged in the 50's% completions category.
 
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That's sound and reasonable. I don't like much of Troy anymore. Always quick to judge, yet he fails to remember how "off" his passes were at times. Just look at his career stats by year. 6 out of his 12 years, Troy averaged in the 50's% completions category.
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I do think Troys become less objective about the team so he doesn’t sound like a homer. Thanks for listening. I’m usually trying to see the good/bad In most things on here. As I said I think Daks play has coincided with many things coming together…his injury, Moore’s offense being more predictable, an Oline who has lost its way and a stagnant run game. I don’t know where the majority of blame goes but I do wish they would get Dak out in space more or run more hurry up. I also think Moore can learn from the old 49er/Rice days and try to get s rhythm with quick slant/underneath stuff vs screens. I’d think this would get CeeDee in more space too. Both CeeDee and Wilson got looks on those on the last drive.
 
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I do think Troys become less objective about the team so he doesn’t sound like a homer. Thanks for listening. I’m usually trying to see the good/bad In most things on here. As I said I think Daks play has coincided with many things coming together…his injury, Moore’s offense being more predictable, an Oline who has lost its way and a stagnant run game. I don’t know where the majority of blame goes but I do wish they would get Dak out in space more or run more hurry up. I also think Moore can learn from the old 49er/Rice days and try to get s rhythm with quick slant/underneath stuff vs screens. I’d think this would get CeeDee in more space too. Both CeeDee and Wilson got looks on those on the last drive.
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Agreed.
 
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Ya'll haters are crazy with hate.

This game was not on Dak. If anything, Dak kept us in this game.

I counted 5 batted balls and 2 drops. That is 7 of his 14 incompletes for the game.

There were 2 passes I would deem bad by him. 2.

His fumble in the 2nd to last drive...it sucks, but it happens and was a great play by the defender. I am more happy that he ran the way he did making people miss (more than Zeke did all game) and not afraid of his leg. If that 22 yard run didn't get called back, he had 2 less yards running than Kyler that you all think is the 2nd coming.

THis game was not on him but here is what was the cause of the loss:

  • The total lack of a running game and threat of the run. Just anemic. No one respects Zeke as he is clearly hurt.
  • Horrible penalties. Many advantageous 3rd downs turned into much more difficult 3rd downs.
  • Another crushing missed chip shot fg.
  • Jayron dropping that gimme pick in the end zone.
  • The HORRIBLE non-fumble call on a clear fumble at the end of the game. The defense finally made a play and the refs screw us. We last saw the ball with over 4 min left...never get it back. Clearly this is Dak's Fault.

You guys are all dejected and blaming our QB but I am encouraged. I see us beating them in the playoffs. I really do. I expect our defense to clamp them down even more and I expect our offense to not shoot themselves in the foot like they did today.
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LOL...how much is Dak paying you to be his cheerleader and try and convince people that Dak doesn't suck?
 
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LOL...how much is Dak paying you to be his cheerleader and try and convince people that Dak doesn't suck?
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Yes...Dak sucks. :facepalm:

7th in the league in qb rating, over 4k yards and 32 passing TDs.

He sucks.

It isn't hard at all...the numbers speak for themselves. The hoops haters have to jump through to try and downgrade him is hillarious. Kind of like the hoops people go through to put down Diggs' record year lol
 
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Ken said:
Yes...Dak sucks. :facepalm:

7th in the league in qb rating, over 4k yards and 32 passing TDs.

He sucks.

It isn't hard at all...the numbers speak for themselves. The hoops haters have to jump through to try and downgrade him is hillarious. Kind of like the hoops people go through to put down Diggs' record year lol
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They have tunnel vision. Quickly dissect every little negative detail while simultaneously ignoring anything positive.
 
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Yes...Dak sucks. :facepalm:

7th in the league in qb rating, over 4k yards and 32 passing TDs.

He sucks.

It isn't hard at all...the numbers speak for themselves. The hoops haters have to jump through to try and downgrade him is hillarious. Kind of like the hoops people go through to put down Diggs' record year lol
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7th in QB Rating behind.....Kirk Cousins

8th in passing yards....behind Derek Carr

8th in passing td's.....behind Joe Burrow


So Dak is ranked behind QB's that many on here said are no where near Dak in terms of 'elite' status.....but hey, Dak is ranked 17th in QBR.....behind Carson Wentz. LOL (I guess the numbers speak for themselves)
 
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7th in QB Rating behind.....Kirk Cousins

8th in passing yards....behind Derek Carr

8th in passing td's.....behind Joe Burrow


So Dak is ranked behind QB's that many on here said are no where near Dak in terms of 'elite' status.....but hey, Dak is ranked 17th in QBR.....behind Carson Wentz. LOL (I guess the numbers speak for themselves)
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Ya got me. He sucks because he is top 10 in almost every major qb stats category.

The HATE is strong in this one.:facepalm:
 
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Ya got me. He sucks because he is top 10 in almost every major qb stats category.

The HATE is strong in this one.:facepalm:
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Yes, back half of Top 10 behind guys like Cousins, Carr, Burrow, and Wentz....but hey, Dak is ranked #2 in terms of fumbles so in that regard I guess Dak is 'elite'.
 
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Yes, back half of Top 10 behind guys like Cousins, Carr, Burrow, and Wentz....but hey, Dak is ranked #2 in terms of fumbles so in that regard I guess Dak is 'elite'.
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Burrow is a bad qb now?

Cousins and Carr have been what people like you have clamored for ...now they are garbage? Wha????

Wentz is playing with training wheels...not better than Dak in anything other than QBR...and that is because he has training wheels. Hence why he has almost 100 less pass attempts than Dak and played 1 more game.
 
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Burrow is a bad qb now?

Cousins and Carr have been what people like you have clamored for ...now they are garbage? Wha????

Wentz is playing with training wheels...not better than Dak in anything other than QBR...and that is because he has training wheels. Hence why he has almost 100 less pass attempts than Dak and played 1 more game.
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Yes, 100 less passing attempts than Dak....and less INT's than Dak, 1 less win than Dak, .3% less in terms of TD %, and .6% less in terms of INT %.......


As for Cousins, Carr, and Burrow, many on here were screaming about how Dak is sooooooo much better than those QB's.....and yet here we are.

Oh, and Burrow has less attempts than Dak yet more yards, td's, and a higher qb rating...just like Stafford does at well.
 
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Yes, 100 less passing attempts than Dak....and less INT's than Dak, 1 less win than Dak, .3% less in terms of TD %, and .6% less in terms of INT %.......


As for Cousins, Carr, and Burrow, many on here were screaming about how Dak is sooooooo much better than those QB's.....and yet here we are.

Oh, and Burrow has less attempts than Dak yet more yards, td's, and a higher qb rating...just like Stafford does at well.
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I know you think you are making a point here...but there really isn't one.

100 less in 1 more game. Training wheels. You guys would be crucifying Dak if he was running the same offense.

Burrow is a great young qb. He also has one of the most dynamic wr's in the league to throw to. Not hard to understand.

Cousins and Carr are good qbs. They tend to choke in the big spots...Dak doesn't. Hence why Carr has never been to the playoffs and Cousins has 1 win in 9 years in the playoffs.
 
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