Dak, like Romo, is a garbage stat QB

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OK OK OK - crap ….. we all know who on this forum HATES Dak and who LOVES Dak . Can we just get the flip over it and have discussions about the team that aren’t about this same garbage over and over?

Or we can even have an I HATE DAK and an I LOVE DAK forum and then another one for people who want to have civil discussions about all other things regarding this playoff team.

GO NFC EAST CHAMP COWBOYS !!!:starspin:
 
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kramskoi said:
He is not infinitely better sir. That's just pure poppycock. Romo was always pushing the ball down the field. Prescott is risk averse by nature...not entirely a bad thing but sometimes you need a gunslinger to light a fire. Matt Stafford, for all his warts has been the best QB in the fourth quarter (10 TDS no INTs...123 passer rating).

It takes Prescott too damn long to get going vs. good teams with good quarterbacks and good defenses. The Denver game was absolutely hideous...5:26 to go in the game and he has barely over 100 yds, an INT and has engineered ZERO points. That was the game everybody dismissed as an aberration. It was actually a portent of things to come.
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At 28 years old, Romo had 46 ints in 39 games. Dak has 50 in 6 years.

At that point, Romo was in his 3rd year. Dak is in his 6th year starting.

I don't know how this is "poppycock"
 
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Ken said:
At 28 years old, Romo had 46 ints in 39 games. Dak has 50 in 6 years.

At that point, Romo was in his 3rd year. Dak is in his 6th year starting.

I don't know how this is "poppycock"
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You are wasting your time sir. These folks have Dak hate and are romosexuals. Some of them believe he is the best QB in franchise history. They are still so butthurt that Dak won the job and Brokeback wasn't allowed to compete for it. They are butthurt that dak got paid even though they were more than ok with it when Brokeback got paid That said I am not adverse to them bringing in a young QB to compete if dak dont pick up somethings
 
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Jkyle said:
Dak seems to be similar to Romo in being a QB who puts up good stats and wins against average teams and also puts up good stats against good teams but it seems to be late game catchup stats which ultimately come up short after falling behind early.
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Romo has the ability to raise the level of play from his teammates. Dak is carried by his teammates. Dak stepped into a perfect situation from day one and he has played with better talent than Romo. Romo made some dumb plays early in his career, but he matured into one of the best QBs in the league by the end of his career.
 
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Ken said:
At 28 years old, Romo had 46 ints in 39 games. Dak has 50 in 6 years.

At that point, Romo was in his 3rd year. Dak is in his 6th year starting.

I don't know how this is "poppycock"
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Nobody denies that Romo had his problems during his first few years. During the last few years, he carried the team and they would have lost a lot of games if it wasn’t for him. Garrett kept his job for several years because of Romo running the offense and changing the plays.
 
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Ken said:
At 28 years old, Romo had 46 ints in 39 games. Dak has 50 in 6 years.

At that point, Romo was in his 3rd year. Dak is in his 6th year starting.

I don't know how this is "poppycock"
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Favre has 336 interceptions in 20 (?) years and is in the Hall Of Fame.

including 22, 23, 23, 29! and 22 in a season.

Pick another stat?
 
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starfan1 said:
You are wasting your time sir. These folks have Dak hate and are romosexuals. Some of them believe he is the best QB in franchise history. They are still so butthurt that Dak won the job and Brokeback wasn't allowed to compete for it. They are butthurt that dak got paid even though they were more than ok with it when Brokeback got paid That said I am not adverse to them bringing in a young QB to compete if dak dont pick up somethings
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So...everyone that actually LIKES...and defend one of their own former players from outright lies....hates Dak?
 

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Romo made the average players around him great. Dak needs great players at every position just to be average. Romo with this defense and these offensive weapons would be damn near unstoppable with his back issues, forget about when he was in his prime. Also let's remember we are comparing a undrafted QB to a fourth round pick, at this point Dak should be leaps and bounds ahead of Tony given his pedigree and his weapons.
 
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Jkyle said:
Dak seems to be similar to Romo in being a QB who puts up good stats and wins against average teams and also puts up good stats against good teams but it seems to be late game catchup stats which ultimately come up short after falling behind early.
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What we have here is a Kirk Cousins situation. like Washington had and like the Vikings have now is a QB who is decent against the lousy teams and who is mediocre at best against the decent teams in this league. Yes, JJ did what both the Skins and Vikings did paid an AVERAGE AT BEST QB to lead his team through hell the next whatever years. Dak Prescot is not a leader of men, Dak Prescot is a good time CHARLIE who everyone get's a long with, who doesn't make waves and gives the impression that he knows what he's doing when in fact doesn't have a clue on the field to get to the next level when defense coordinators have him all locked down. Yes, Dak Prescot and Kirk Cousins are like two peas in a pod and unfortunately for all of us, he's our pea....................
 
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phildadon86 said:
Romo before 2014 was not as good as Dak is now. 2014 it all clicked for him and his ability to read and process a defense was where he needed to be. Unfortunately by that time his body started to fail him. That was his 7th year in the league. Dak is in year 6.
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This is hogwash. Romo took benefit from a 1700+ yd rusher, allowing him to reduce the number times he had to throw the ball and take fewer risks. His ability to read defenses didn't start in 2014. While I don't believe that he was ready in 2007, by 2009 I think he was capable of making a playoff run it's just that the o-line completely collapsed (injury wise) at Minnesota that year in the divisional round.

I don't agree that Prescott is better now than Romo was at the same point. Romo wins that game against the Cardinals last Sunday. Why? Because he was always a greedy quarterback who pushed the ball down the field, especially on third down. His great escapes on that down are legend. Prescott is risk averse and is simply too quick to want to check down or take underneath routes rather than waiting out longer routes, even from a clean pocket.
 
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atlantacowboy said:
There is no question Romo was a better QB. But, Romo never made his mark in a playoff game. Dak still has that chance, though I doubt he's capable of it.
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Fwiw, Tony did engineer a very late 4th quarter game-winning drive in a playoff game in a win in 2014....vs the best defense we have faced in the playoffs since the 90s.

Not sure if that counts or not, but it was pretty dramatic and was the biggest comeback playoff win (down 14 points) we've had since 1994.
 
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Fwiw, Tony did engineer a very late 4th quarter game-winning drive in a playoff game in a win in 2014....vs the best defense we have faced in the playoffs since the 90s.

Not sure if that counts or not, but it was pretty dramatic and was the biggest comeback playoff win (down 14 points) we've had in at least 30 years.
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He also lead the Cowboys to beat the Eagles in 2009 to win the division and then beat the Eagles again the next week in hid playoffs. It was the game McNabb did the stupid dance before the game. Was pretty satisfying. He was also one bad call from an NFC championship game against a team they had already defeated that year. He also lead the Cowboys to beat an undefeated Colts team lead by Peyton Manning in 2006 with a clutch pass to Anthony Fasano to seal the game. And lead the Cowboys on the road to beat an undefeated Saints team in 2009. He had TO issues early in his career, but the guy overall was a clutch QB. It’s simply a narrative that he wasn’t.
 
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RomoplusDezEquals7 said:
He also lead the Cowboys to beat the Eagles in 2009 to win the division and then beat the Eagles again the next week in hid playoffs. It was the game McNabb did the stupid dance before the game. Was pretty satisfying. He was also one bad call from an NFC championship game against a team they had already defeated that year. He also lead the Cowboys to beat an undefeated Colts team lead by Peyton Manning in 2006 with a clutch pass to Anthony Fasano to seal the game. And lead the Cowboys on the road to beat an undefeated Saints team in 2009. He had TO issues early in his career, but the guy overall was a clutch QB. It’s simply a narrative that he wasn’t.
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Yeah, I know he's led the team to a bunch of great regular season wins.

He asked about standout playoff wins....so not just any playoff win. We totally curb-stomped the Eagles in the 2009 playoffs, so it wasn't all that dramatic.

Falling 14 behind to the best defense we have faced in the playoffs since the Aikman years, and coming back to win in a dramatic late 4th qtr drive was the very definition of clutch....kn other way to describe it.

Too bad it ended the next week after the overturned catch vs Green Bay.
 
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