The NFL HC Carousel

Zman5 said:

What part of the "Having more experience makes a difference" aren't you getting? In anything in life. Do you think an entry level worker will have as good of chance being a senior level employee or someone who has been working for 10 years?

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DandyDon52 said:

gm and hc have to work well together, and these 2 didnt.
owner had to choose one and fire the other, he chose the gm.
Plus the owner may have someone he likes better lined up to take over.
To these owners, this is their toy and they like to enjoy playing with it more than winning SB.
I dont think flores was fun to work with .

Flores needs to work on his social skills, because that is part of getting and keeping a HC job.

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Reid1boys said:

Thanks, my point was made.. those guys had not much experience and all got head coaching jobs and ... what, Rams, Cards, Packers, all in playoffs, and a lone to kept chargers out.

Experience is fine, but not exactly needed. Why so many young hc these days????

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Reality said:

Personally, I think Moore would be foolish to take a head coach position right now unless his dream job is available and wanting to hire him. I do think it is smart that he interviews with any team that requests it so he gains that experience, but the odds would be against him succeeding right now and if that happens it may impact his chances in the future. He needs more (no pun intended) experience and another year or two could greatly improve his chances of head coaching success.

Quinn on the other hand, I think he has to decide does he want to be a head coach again right now. If he knows he wants to be a head coach, then he would be smart to leverage the great job he has done this year in turning around a really bad defense. If he truly is happy being the defensive coordinator for the Cowboys right now, he should keep doing that as I would fully expect him to get more head coach interest from other teams in the years to come.

Either way though, I do not think either of the Cowboys coordinators are irreplaceable. There are and will be good coaches available if that were to happen.

That said, I hope both decide to stay

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LovinItAll said:

Flores will end up in a better situation, maybe this next year. As I said, I might be a little irritated that I got Tua instead of Herbert, especially if I was on the record as wanting Justin.

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DandyDon52 said:

some other poster said flores wanted tua, and that he was the one wanting deshawn from texans.
Wanting tua or justing and then wanting deshuan too doesnt make sense.

I dont know why anyone would want deshawn , have to pay that contract, and give up good high draft picks.
And for a team that just took tua, kinda crazy to do that.

bottom line is the gm and owner had to have wanted tua, or he would not have been drafted. Flores was complaining about the draft picks etc,
and the gm didnt like that.
He did have the team playing good 2nd half of season, so surprising he was fired.

This to me indicates they have someone in mind who just became available, and it could be harbaugh.

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Zman5 said:

Anyone can get hired as anything without any experience. This happens typically with family-owned businesses. So what? Just because it happens doesn't mean it's the best practice.
How many HC without much coaching experience succeeded? None. Beside Jerry, how many GMs will hire someone with 1 year coaching experience as the qb coach hire them as OC then the HC? None.

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Reality said:

Either they disliked him personally or they already know who they want and that person must have just recently become available.

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shabazz said:

……so another word for personally disliking him would be “hate”……classic

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Reid1boys said:

well didnt we have the number 1 offense in the NFL this year? If only we would have had a more experienced guy we would have been....uhm, better?

McVey had ZERO HC experience and basically he had squat coaching experience when he was hired as an OC(Oooh, the asst wr coach, the ast te coach, then the te coach... not exactly big time jobs.). He had 3 years as that and then got a HC job. Experience is great... but not a prerequisite.

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Zman5 said:

Josh McDanields ran a historically great offense in NE in 2007. How did he turn out as the HC?

Being a coach means you are around other coaches and learn from what they do. It's obvious you have no clue how a football team operates. You sound like you never had a real job, so you won't understand what it means to gain real experiences from a job and how it will help you move up the ladder.

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Reid1boys said:

unless youve coached for 20 years, Ive got more experience than you.

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Blackrain said:

I can't pay them anything but Jerry's a billionaire and he could up McCarthy's salary and up all their salaries and it wouldn't affect him in the slightest.

What it would do is keep our coaching staff together and the continuity that we have gained together instead of letting everything get blown up

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Zman5 said:

LOL. I don't know what you coached but it's obvious from your posts, you have no clue how things work in the real world.
People who had success coaching for years in college fail in the NFL, yet you think someone who had 1 year of coaching experience coaching QBs is good enough to be hired as an OC then HC.

I get that you love Garrett. But your love for JG is making you look really clueless.

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Doomsday101 said:

Unfortunately with success comes changes on a staff. Belichick has gone through several DC and OC. I really do not think money is the issue

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Zman5 said:

LOL. I don't know what you coached but it's obvious from your posts, you have no clue how things work in the real world.
People who had success coaching for years in college fail in the NFL, yet you think someone who had 1 year of coaching experience coaching QBs is good enough to be hired as an OC then HC.

I get that you love Garrett. But your love for JG is making you look really clueless.

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Reid1boys said:

Clueless? Please show me exactly where I said Moore should be a HC? I didnt say one way or the other, because i dont care. That being said, it has been shown with the names I gave you that experience is vastly overrated.

The number 1 indicator of HC success is who your QB is. Look at all those Patriot coaches that left to become a HC. How many have had success? Now tell me who their QB was.

It was mentioned yesterday the 6 coaches with the longest tenure with the same qb. SHOCKINGLY (thats sarcasm since it goes over so many of you) Shockingly 5 of those 6 longest tenured coaches had HOF QBs playing for them. Who would of thunk.

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Reid1boys said:

Im not gonna go into my life experience, but lets just say it started with 4 years in the Marine Corps and the Gulf War. Im thinking thats a pretty good shot at the real world.

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Zman5 said:

Garrett had Romo. Now are you going to tell me JG failed because he had bad QB? LOL.
Tell me one successful head coach who got hired with only 3 years or less coaching experience?

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