These Facts Explain Everything

TWOK11 said:

“Jerry the GM” is the Cowboys fan boogeyman that exists largely in our minds and nowhere else. There was a time when Jerry pretty much did what he wanted, true. But that time has long since passed. Will McClay and Stephen Jones have taken progressively more and more personnel control to the point where Jerry is by all accounts, including his own, third fiddle in such decisions.

People blame Jerry because he’s an attention ***** who get son camera and talks a lot, and is this easy to blame. He’s the Queen of England, a really famous guy lots of people have options about but whose power over decisions has become progressively more symbolic.

So even if the failures were always personnel, and they aren’t, there’s a lot more blame to go around.

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Proof? I would love to see that. Because that’s not whatJerry says. Besides what comfort can we take on SJ or McClay “taking over” if this is what we continue to get?

TWOK11 said:

My question as always is, what is Jerry doing specifically that has kept us from winning a divisional game for 26 years? Because at various points along the way we’ve had objectively elite teams, good QB play more often than we haven’t, good coaches, etc. We’re not consistently deficient in any one thing. It’s just all failed to come together at the right time. But we have absolutely built teams capable of winning a SB in the last 26 years, and for various reasons (different each time) it didn’t happen.

What if Patrick Crayton doesn’t drop that pass in 2007? What if they correctly called the Dez play a catch in 2014? What if Aaron Rodgers doesn’t make one of the greatest throws in history in 2016? Did Jerry cause all of that to happen? Any of those teams could have won it all, and certainly could have made the NFC title game. And half the franchises in this league have consistently been far worse than us in the last 26 years. We’re 8th in win % in that time frame in fact.

So I ask, what specifically is Jerry consistently doing wrong that is leading to our failure all by itself? Vague critiques that amount to “he’s the only whose been here through it all” aren’t good enough.

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Coaching. When he hired parcellls… BP brought a team with inferior talent to the playoffs 2 of 4 years.

Every coach since BP has been a puppet. Wade Phillips. Then he stuck with Garret for way longer than any other team would have. And now McCarthy.

Coaching matters in the nfl. Jerry doesn’t care. He figured over the past 20+ years he’d get that sixth title. That law of averages he’d win with his hand picked guy. But all he’s left looking like is a joke. It’s just like when he neglected the oline for years before he smartened up.




Talent hasn’t been a problem lately. Coaching has. Now Jerry’s getting older. Time isn’t on his side.I wonder what he’ll do.

Bobhaze said:

Proof? I would love to see that. Because that’s not whatJerry says. Besides what comfort can we take on SJ or McClay “taking over” if this is what we continue to get?

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This is a loaded roster. It’s football and stuff happens, it’s a weird game with weird bounces. We lost a game that ended our season today, and the reasons for that loss were different than the reasons we lost in 2018, 2016, 2014, etc.

You pull it together, put together the best squad you can and try again next year. We’ll still be the best team in our division and see what happens from there.

This idea that we always lose for the same reason or that we’re so oppressed as little ‘ol cowboys fans is just childish nonsense.

Playmaker3128 said:

Coaching. When he hired parcellls… BP brought a team with inferior talent to the playoffs 2 of 4 years.

Every coach since BP has been a puppet. Wade Phillips. Then he stuck with Garret for way longer than any other team would have. And now McCarthy.

Coaching matters in the nfl. Jerry doesn’t care. He figured over the past 20+ years he’d get that sixth title. That law of averages he’d win with his hand picked guy. But all he’s left looking like is a joke. It’s just like when he neglected the oline for years before he smartened up.




Talent hasn’t been a problem lately. Coaching has. Now Jerry’s getting older. Time isn’t on his side.I wonder what he’ll do.

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But coaching wasn’t the reason we lost in the playoffs most of the time. We outcoached and outplayed GB in Lambeau in 2014. If not for the Dez call and Murray’s fumble we win that game by two scores. Weird unfortunate **** happens otherwise we probably win the NFC that year with “puppet” Jason Garrett.

TWOK11 said:

But coaching wasn’t the reason we lost in the playoffs most of the time. We outcoached and outplayed GB in Lambeau in 2014. If not for the Dez call and Murray’s fumble we win that game by two scores. Weird unfortunate **** happens otherwise we probably win the NFC that year with “puppet” Jason Garrett.

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That’s a stretch. We couldn’t stop a one legged Rodgers that day for the last 4 min and change. If this and if that doesn’t mean we were “close”.

Bobhaze said:

In the 26 years since the Cowboys last won a divisional playoff game, and last appeared in a conference championship, the following have been tried to get back to playoff glory:

• 6 different head coaches
• 7 different offensive coordinators
• 8 different defensive coordinators
• Over 70 different assistant coaches
• 20 different QBs have started regular season games and 3 different QBs have started playoff games in that span.
• One owner/GM

GMs get credit when you win championships. And they get criticism when they don’t. In fact, in 30 other NFL cities the ones not winning playoff games get fired. But not in Big D where if your name is Jones, there is no accountability for failure.

There’s plenty of blame to spread around tonight. The Players, the coaches…they all sucked today. But the guy MOST responsible- BY DESIGN- will be back again next year. One year older and not any wiser.

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Common denominator = Jerry Jones
26 years of futility and counting

Crap rolls down

Bobhaze said:

In the 26 years since the Cowboys last won a divisional playoff game, and last appeared in a conference championship, the following have been tried to get back to playoff glory:

• 6 different head coaches
• 7 different offensive coordinators
• 8 different defensive coordinators
• Over 70 different assistant coaches
• 20 different QBs have started regular season games and 3 different QBs have started playoff games in that span.
• One owner/GM

GMs get credit when you win championships. And they get criticism when they don’t. In fact, in 30 other NFL cities the ones not winning playoff games get fired. But not in Big D where if your name is Jones, there is no accountability for failure.

There’s plenty of blame to spread around tonight. The Players, the coaches…they all sucked today. But the guy MOST responsible- BY DESIGN- will be back again next year. One year older and not any wiser.

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Crap rolls downhill. No accountability. That is the culture. Now we are blaming Refs. That is the culture.

doomsday808 said:

Crap rolls down

Crap rolls downhill. No accountability. That is the culture. Now we are blaming Refs. That is the culture.

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When the players start publicly complaining about the refs, you have a real cancer in the culture. That is a complete lack of leadership and accountability. Just pathetic.

Bobhaze said:

WOW- Great question- probably 1992 at SF in the NFC championship game. Wow.

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Distant history......
Sigh......

ElGatoGrande said:

It's a watered down league made worse with free agency and rules that give the elite QBs all the advantages,,, and there's only a handful of elite QBs at any given time. Honestly I can see this aimless wandering going on forever with the Jones' putting lipstick on a new set of "stars" and firing the coaches every few years. We're basically Detroit Lions fans now.

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Ouch!!!!
Don't insult the lions loil

TWOK11 said:

My question as always is, what is Jerry doing specifically that has kept us from winning a divisional game for 26 years? Because at various points along the way we’ve had objectively elite teams, good QB play more often than we haven’t, good coaches, etc. We’re not consistently deficient in any one thing. It’s just all failed to come together at the right time. But we have absolutely built teams capable of winning a SB in the last 26 years, and for various reasons (different each time) it didn’t happen.

What if Patrick Crayton doesn’t drop that pass in 2007? What if they correctly called the Dez play a catch in 2014? What if Aaron Rodgers doesn’t make one of the greatest throws in history in 2016? Did Jerry cause all of that to happen? Any of those teams could have won it all, and certainly could have made the NFC title game. And half the franchises in this league have consistently been far worse than us in the last 26 years. We’re 8th in win % in that time frame in fact.

So I ask, what specifically is Jerry consistently doing wrong that is leading to our failure all by itself? Vague critiques that amount to “he’s the only whose been here through it all” aren’t good enough.

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What has Jerry done?: How about firing a coach who won you 2 Super Bowls; What has Jerry done: How about hiring Barry Switzer, which if you go back and look led to a downward spiral for the Cowboys after he won a Super Bowl. What has Jerry done? How about hiring Chan Gailey. What has Jerry done? How about hiring Dave Campo. What has Jerry done? How about hiring an Offensive Coordinator before you hired a Head Coach simply because you wanted the Offensive Coordinator to be the next head coach. What has Jerry done? How about sticking with Jason Garret for 10 years. What has Jerry done? How about establish a culture where players are more accountable to him than the head coach. Jerry's ego will not allow him to hire a GM because he is determined to prove that he is smart enough to win a Super Bowl without Jimmy Johnson. I mean the greatest indictment against him as GM is this: In 2012, Jerry said that he would have fired himself as GM if he did not work for himself. Jerry has done plenty to cause the failures of this franchise.

Bobhaze said:

It’s a fatal flaw baked into this cake. There’s a reason most successful large organizations don’t allow nepotism. It’s destructive.

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Jori Epstein on last Wednesday's "Media Mash" alluded to the extra difficulties Dallas players have to overcome to be successful. Steve Dennis asked if that was a thinly disguised attacked on the Jones.
Epstein just smiled knowing full well it was.
Unfortunately in the near term (and maybe for the long term) we as fans will just have the bear it!

Clove said:

Nothing we can do about it so it's pointless talking about it every year.

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With that logic, what is the point of any fan board?
Nothing we post makes any difference.

IrishAnto said:

With that logic, what is the point of any fan board?
Nothing we post makes any difference.

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It's pointless but I'm still a victim of it. It's just tiring year after year talking the same **** and nothing gets done.

Clove said:

It's pointless but I'm still a victim of it. It's just tiring year after year talking the same **** and nothing gets done.

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Unfortunately that is our lot with Jerry Jones.
We are paying for the 1995 SB win, when Jerry and Barry "Did it their way", and Jerry has been doing it his way ever since.

IrishAnto said:

Unfortunately that is our lot with Jerry Jones.
We are paying for the 1995 SB win, when Jerry and Barry "Did it their way", and Jerry has been doing it his way ever since.

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I wish I could quit you. From the words of "broke back mountain" I wish I could quit the Cowboys.

ElGatoGrande said:

It's a watered down league made worse with free agency and rules that give the elite QBs all the advantages,,, and there's only a handful of elite QBs at any given time. Honestly I can see this aimless wandering going on forever with the Jones' putting lipstick on a new set of "stars" and firing the coaches every few years. We're basically Detroit Lions fans now.

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Spot on! and the Lions have been owned by the same family for the last 66-67 years.
That thought alone makes me very worried.

Bobhaze said:

Truth. Apparently there are no mirrors allowed in Cowboys executive offices with a Jones name on the door.

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They are there, but in a vampire like mode. It won’t reflect an image unless its a winner, and that’s not happened for a long time....

TWOK11 said:

My question as always is, what is Jerry doing specifically that has kept us from winning a divisional game for 26 years? Because at various points along the way we’ve had objectively elite teams, good QB play more often than we haven’t, good coaches, etc. We’re not consistently deficient in any one thing. It’s just all failed to come together at the right time. But we have absolutely built teams capable of winning a SB in the last 26 years, and for various reasons (different each time) it didn’t happen.

What if Patrick Crayton doesn’t drop that pass in 2007? What if they correctly called the Dez play a catch in 2014? What if Aaron Rodgers doesn’t make one of the greatest throws in history in 2016? Did Jerry cause all of that to happen? Any of those teams could have won it all, and certainly could have made the NFC title game. And half the franchises in this league have consistently been far worse than us in the last 26 years. We’re 8th in win % in that time frame in fact.

So I ask, what specifically is Jerry consistently doing wrong that is leading to our failure all by itself? Vague critiques that amount to “he’s the only whose been here through it all” aren’t good enough.

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He doesn't have the skillset to build a successful team in todays NFL with the salary cap and free agency.
Ask yourself the question, if those teams were truly capable of winning an SB then why have we only managed consecutive trips to the playoffs twice in 27 years?
Building a team to win in the current era of the NFL requires the GM to know and focus on football. Jerry doesnt.

.After watching so many players and coaches come and go over the years I came to the conclusion that our failures centered around the one fixture that never changed Jerry and his culture.

After it proved positive that we would never win a super bowl with him being the owner of this team I lowered my expectations to avoid the continual disappointment.

But it seems anymore that Jerry's culture is so bad that it won't even let us lose a hard-fought game.
The preparation has to be so bad that as fans we have to be humiliated and embarrassed by the stupidity of our team and who is running it.
I continue to watch this team because of a strange loyalty to a group of men led by Tom Landry and Roger staubach that were the heroes of my childhood
Jerry's culture and lack of preparation for these big moments is disrespectful to the great legends that made the cowboys the most respected franchise in football at one time.
What is truly sad for us old time fans who grew up watching the great legends that built the cowboys is that there are more generations of Jones's than we have life left.

We will have to be satisfied with the great memories of the Dallas cowboys when they really were the Dallas cowboys The most respected franchise in the NFL.

Not this mistake ridden embarrassment that we are expected to try and have hope for.