Fix the O-Line

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Williams is gone. I don’t know if would work but I might trade Jarwin and Collins before the draft. Having a new OC with a short passing game will help too.
That’s for sure about shorter passes. They did it in 2016 to protect Dak being a rookie. Now they just want to throw 20 yard plus plays. I wouldn’t be mad if Moore took a HC job. Slants are a must.
 

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When they win you are up and when they lose you are back to your old complaints. Your about face on Parsons was more skillful than a marching band.

Im sorry but I’ve been extremely consistent for years.

I call Dak a system QB all the time and I even predict the exact ways we lose with him.

You’re getting multiple posters mixed up.


I think Dak is a good solid QB but he’s a system QB that’s only as good as his run game and he can’t carry us to victory with any consistency against teams who are good.


Instead of being so generic I’d love an example of my inconsistency so I could address it.
 

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Time to move on from Williams because he sucks and is a penalty waiting to happen and I would also look at center because Biadasz just isn't powerful enough, I have seen him get bullied many times.
 

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Im sorry but I’ve been extremely consistent for years.

I call Dak a system QB all the time and I even predict the exact ways we lose with him.

You’re getting multiple posters mixed up.


I think Dak is a good solid QB but he’s a system QB that’s only as good as his run game and he can’t carry us to victory with any consistency against teams who are good.

Which describes the guy that just advanced yesterday and most of the QB;s in this league. There is more than one way to win it all. But your continued harangue about Dak and Zeke and anyone that makes over minimum wage is pouting.
 

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Which describes the guy that just advanced yesterday and most of the QB;s in this league. There is more than one way to win it all. But your continued harangue about Dak and Zeke and anyone that makes over minimum wage is pouting.

It’s asking them to play to their contract. That’s their job. You don’t waste valuable cap resources on guys who do nothing.

If you’re stuck in the 90s be my guest but that is not today’s game.
 

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There is not real significant difference between Dak and Garappolo. But one guy yesterday stood in a clean pocket, while the other was being harassed.

The common denominator off all the losses, save for the one to TB, was the offensive line could not protect Dak. I am not making excuses for Dak's gaffs.

But this offense is greatly different when Dak can play mostly unmolested.

Now the Kleenex Teardrop Set will throw a fit. But the fact is Dallas is as good a team as San Fran. If you take into account Dallas needs a left guard and right tackle, and a massive DT.

It's easier to blame Dak for everything.

Truth is, this falls on a front office that cannot see year after year the same problems with the defensive line and the offensive line.
Starts and ends in the trenches.. And the #1 Offense did not show up yesterday till the 4th quarter. The QB draw was a good call at the wrong time. No points on the board till the second quarter. No short passes to even attempt to get Dak in a rhythm. How many run attempts did we have.
 

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Starts and ends in the trenches.. And the #1 Offense did not show up yesterday till the 4th quarter. The QB draw was a good call at the wrong time. No points on the board till the second quarter. No short passes to even attempt to get Dak in a rhythm. How many run attempts did we have.


We can’t play that team needs to carry our QB game with a 40 million dollar QB.

Asking Dak to step up and be the man is demanded by his contract.
 

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We can’t play that team needs to carry our QB game with a 40 million dollar QB.

Asking Dak to step up and be the man is demanded by his contract.
Something happened to him after that injury. He is not playing like he did the first 7 games. And he needs plays he can execute. This O-Line needs to be more disciplined. And Dak has to run. The QB draw was a good play but calling it there was odd.. And it needs to be called more often. He has to play his style instead of being a pocket QB.
 

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Something happened to him after that injury. He is not playing like he did the first 7 games. And he needs plays he can execute. This O-Line needs to be more disciplined. And Dak has to run. The QB draw was a good play but calling it there was odd.. And it needs to be called more often. He has to play his style instead of being a pocket QB.

Yeah.. It’s called defenses changed and he couldn’t adjust.


Teams stopped blitzing and just begged us to run on them or have Dak’s arm beat us.
 

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Until Dak learns how to move in the pocket and improves his awareness, he will always face "pressure."

He makes the line look way worse than it is.
They roll him out and better things happen. If we can’t run the ball then he needs to do it. Disappointing ending to the season..
 

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Joe Burrow wishes he had our offensive line.



For you PFF geeks.. I believe they have our Oline ranked as #1.

3 quarterbacks are payed 40 Million plus. Dakota, Josh Allen and Mahomes. The Cowboys offensive line consisted ranks top 3 in almost all rankings.

Meanwhile the Bills and Chiefs offensive lines rank worse than top 10 ……the bottom line is that those other 40 million dollar men do more with less

apparently, some people here think that we can afford to upgrade this top 3 offensive line AND pay 40 million for a qb
 

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Yeah.. It’s called defenses changed and he couldn’t adjust.


Teams stopped blitzing and just begged us to run on them or have Dak’s arm beat us.
Without a run game he can’t. Not a lot of QBs can. But call plays that are quicker developing. He can’t stand back there for 10 seconds waiting for the WR.
 

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3 quarterbacks are payed 40 Million plus. Dakota, Josh Allen and Mahomes. The Cowboys offensive line consisted ranks top 3 in almost all rankings.

Meanwhile the Bills and Chiefs offensive lines rank worse than top 10 ……the bottom line is that those other 40 million dollar men do more with less

apparently, some people here think that we can afford to upgrade this top 3 offensive line AND pay 40 million for a qb
They are undisciplined. The penalties are terrible. Get a new O-Line coach and some of this stops. Dak isn’t going to change, he is the QB he is. They are asking him to be a pocket QB and he is not..
 

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How many times did the #1 offense not show up until the 4th quarter? Dak is at his best when they are in hurry up and defense plays soft. Quick passes, not much thinking or accuracy required. The reason he struggles is because he is required to do more than he is capable.

The solution is find an OC that will simplify the offense and design plays to Daks abilities, like what AZ oes with Murray and Baltimore does with Jackson. Moore's play designs are still rooted in Linehan's system, which is a good fit for Romo, not Dak.
 

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They roll him out and better things happen. If we can’t run the ball then he needs to do it. Disappointing ending to the season..
Not always. Like early on, he rolled right, had a blocker handling one guy and another defender outside. Dake keeps pushing things farther outside to the extra defender and ends up having to step back and throw while going back. Terrible throw.

He showed have setup more inside, set his feet and made a quality throw. Or, just run it and get whatever he could.

He is just not natural back there. It's why he often takes a sack at the sideline instead of flipping the ball out of bounds.
 
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