Everyone hating on Dak? What's your plan "B"?

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Jarv said:
I'd ask Brady the same, but he's still busy playing football. You should talk to Dak about this, he has plenty of free time.
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Oh now go talk to Dak when you can't explain why Dak has beaten teams that Brady and Rodgers have loss to.... LOOOOL!!!

Typical. You're the perfect example of who I'm normally talking about.

I'm not sitting here talking to Brady or Dak, im talking to YOU and you deflected the conversation to Dak and Brady because you have no answers and your agenda got crushed....:lmao2:
 

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There isn't much for a plan B now that they gave him the contract. I'm no GM and I very well may have blundered it, but before he signed the contract I would have done this.

1.) In the 2020 draft I wanted Herbert. I wasn't sold on Dak. I would have tried to move up to get him. It would have cost a lot, but at the time it's what I wanted. Now getting him is easier said then done.
2.) After the 2019 season I would have put the transition tag on Dak and let him play for $17 million. This does give a team a chance to offer Dak a contract, but the Cowboys can look at that offer and match it. If it's too high you don't match it, but I can almost guarantee his price would have been less and if not you just avoided overpaying Dak. If I was able to acquire Herbert in the draft I would have let him walk. If not able to acquire Herbert I would have gone for Brady. Would he have played for the Cowboys? Don't know, but the Bucs got him for $25 million a year. If I couldn't work that out I would have gone after Marcus Mariota (that the Raiders got for cheap) or Winston who the saints got for cheap. These would have been stop gaps, but in all honesty neither of these options are a huge step down from Dak. Neither of them hamstring your future and can get for $5 million or less.
3.) Let's go through the scenario that Dak got the tag in 2020 and then got hurt. At that point I would have again offered the transition tag again. I think that would have been a $25 million a year. Again that provides you a year stopgap to make a decision and after what just happened you have your answer. If a team comes in and pays him more then you want to pay, I would have signed Fitzpatrick. Again he's not a huge downgrade and doesn't hamstring you for the future. If that were to happen, or Mariota or Winston were to happen you then have a very good team with a serviceable QB. And I think all could have achieved what Dak did in that playoff game. From there if you didn't get Herbert, who I truly did want you draft a QB in the 2022 draft. I won't pretend to be a draft guru and tell you who, but in the last 7 draft many of the 1st round QB's have been a hit and it's not some terrifying thing you should shy away from. It's a much better decision then hamstringing yourself to the contract they gave Dak.
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4.) This is a long shot that I'm sure won't happen. but, I'd approach Dak about willing to be traded and try and get Russell Wilson. Explain to him they are going to draft a QB and will be a competition regardless of his pay. My guess with how he's been acting this would make him angry and he would want traded. Wilson has two years left on his contract and for his talent level it is reasonable. But, I doubt this happens.
 
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GINeric said:
Oh now go talk to Dak when you can't explain why Dak has beaten teams that Brady and Rodgers have loss to.... LOOOOL!!!

Typical. You're the perfect example of who I'm normally talking about.

I'm not sitting here talking to Brady or Dak, im talking to YOU and you deflected the conversation to Dak and Brady because you have no answers and your agenda got crushed....:lmao2:
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Oh I feel so crushed...you hurt my feelings Mr. 20%.

Check out the owners new pole on Dak. A 5 to 1 ratio thinks you're wrong. But now that you have crushed me, I guess you'll need to go out and crush 4 more people to get to even. Go ahead and convince everyone that Dak is better than Brady since we barley beat a banged up Saints team without their starting QB and star RB and Brady barley lost to them at full strength without his start TE.

Make sure you tag me so I can see each one of their apologies to you admitting your are correct and they have been wrong all along.

PS...Their have been a bunch of apologies today, but it's long time Dak fans admitting they have been wrong.
 
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Don't pay Dak his 40 mil, let him walk. Hire Andy Dalton as a stop-gap and draft Mac Jones. Unfortunately, it's too late to do that. That's what I wanted to do last offseason, but people accused me of being a Dak basher. Dak is a decent quarterback. It's not that I hate him. He's just not worth elite money. Now we're stuck with him and his huge contract.

Now we could still draft a QB, but we're stuck with the salary cap hell of Dak's contract, which will make it tougher to build a team around him.
 

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Oh I feel so crushed...you hurt my feelings Mr. 20%.

Check out the owners new pole on Dak. A 5 to 1 ratio thinks you're wrong. But now that you have crushed me, I guess you'll need to go out and crush 4 more people to get to even. Go ahead and convince everyone that Dak is better than Brady since we barley beat a banged up Saints team without their starting QB and star RB and Brady barley lost to them at full strength without his start TE.

Make sure you tag me so I can see each one of their apologies to you admitting your are correct and they have been wrong all along.

PS...Their have been a bunch of apologies today, but it's long time Dak fans admitting they have been wrong.
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I didn't say I crushed you, I said I crushed your agenda. I also never said Dak was better than Brady. Why are you lying??

Does lying on me make you feel better? Please show me proof of me saying Dak was better than Brady.

I'll wait....
 
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At what point are you gonna cine to terms with this fact . . . No matter what play you call Dark will go through His Progressions and still dump the ball off to the RB outlet . . . aka

ANY PLAY THAT THE OC (WHOEVER THAT MAYBE) CALLS WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME THE SAME BROKEN DOWN PLAY.

That makes the Whole team look bad as Dak attempts to execute SAID PLAY from ANY OC living on the face of the Earth . . . Pick any offensive genius who ever lived and that Man will be ran out of Dallas in 2 years

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Really? Because I just watched SF have a more than functional offense with a worse QB.
 
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GINeric said:
I didn't say I crushed you, I said I crushed your agenda. I also never said Dak was better than Brady. Why are you lying??

Does lying on me make you feel better? Please show me proof of me saying Dak was better than Brady.

I'll wait....
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My agenda is that Brady is better than Dak so in saying you crushed it you ARE saying Dak is better than Brady.

You also said that Dak beat the Saints and Brady didn't. So what are you implying here.

Your a very confused person, seems like you don't even know what you are saying anymore. What happened to you? You used to be a good fan?
 

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RomoplusDezEquals7 said:
There isn't much for a plan B now that they gave him the contract. I'm no GM and I very well may have blundered it, but before he signed the contract I would have done this.

1.) In the 2020 draft I wanted Herbert. I wasn't sold on Dak. I would have tried to move up to get him. It would have cost a lot, but at the time it's what I wanted. Now getting him is easier said then done.
2.) After the 2019 season I would have put the transition tag on Dak and let him play for $17 million. This does give a team a chance to offer Dak a contract, but the Cowboys can look at that offer and match it. If it's too high you don't match it, but I can almost guarantee his price would have been less and if not you just avoided overpaying Dak. If I was able to acquire Herbert in the draft I would have let him walk. If not able to acquire Herbert I would have gone for Brady. Would he have played for the Cowboys? Don't know, but the Bucs got him for $25 million a year. If I couldn't work that out I would have gone after Marcus Mariota (that the Raiders got for cheap) or Winston who the saints got for cheap. These would have been stop gaps, but in all honesty neither of these options are a huge step down from Dak. Neither of them hamstring your future and can get for $5 million or less.
3.) Let's go through the scenario that Dak got the tag in 2020 and then got hurt. At that point I would have again offered the transition tag again. I think that would have been a $25 million a year. Again that provides you a year stopgap to make a decision and after what just happened you have your answer. If a team comes in and pays him more then you want to pay, I would have signed Fitzpatrick. Again he's not a huge downgrade and doesn't hamstring you for the future. If that were to happen, or Mariota or Winston were to happen you then have a very good team with a serviceable QB. And I think all could have achieved what Dak did in that playoff game. From there if you didn't get Herbert, who I truly did want you draft a QB in the 2022 draft. I won't pretend to be a draft guru and tell you who, but in the last 7 draft many of the 1st round QB's have been a hit and it's not some terrifying thing you should shy away from. It's a much better decision then hamstringing yourself to the contract they gave Dak.
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oh stop it...even a blind squirl finds a nut now and then. all of a sudden everyone shows up, I wanted this guy and should have traded the world to get him....lets not forget about the 19 other QBs you wanted and they all turned into trash. why don't you talk about that a bit. facts are that 4 out of 5 first round QBs fail. btw, Herbert with a loaded team...missed the playoffs.....so lets put the annointing oil away as Parcells used to say...

fact is if we would have caved in and signed him in 2018 for an extra million or two, for much much cheaper, we could get out of the contract this year....wouldn't that be a more realistic scenario?
 

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My agenda is that Brady is better than Dak so in saying you crushed it you ARE saying Dak is better than Brady.

You also said that Dak beat the Saints and Brady didn't. So what are you implying here.

Your a very confused person, seems like you don't even know what you are saying anymore. What happened to you? You used to be a good fan?
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I never said that Dak was better than Brady. You said that Dak only beat weak teams, then I showed you the teams that Dak beat, but Brady and Rodgers couldn't beat. You couldn't explain it and just started deflecting.

You tried to imply that the only time Dak beats good teams, there has to be some special reason. Dak played well enough against the Bucs to beat them the first game of the season, but it was the defense who gave up the game winning drive. But I guess Dak should have played defense too according to your agenda....
 

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Of course it is . . Problem is Dak requires a Fantasy Team in order to function . . . If one piece falters or Loses any amount of time . . . This "TEAM" is dead in the water

And While Everyone knows they are watching a Team game its one player that we hope doesn't have his head up his arse that game

Dak is a TEAM ANCHOR

So thank you for being one of those who constantly hang on that Straw man . . . and find the need to constantly point that out. . . .

So you can immediately pivot to bashing every player who on this team . . . ANYONE AND EVERYONE is fair game

As you explain away the Last 6 years and as you will do for the next 3

Because this TEAM is gonna have to shed some weight to feed DAK
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A Fantasy team? Okay so you want a QB that can overcome the 14 penalties, no running game, weak OL play, and suspect play calling. That’s fair. SO DO I. But I live in reality. What do you think the chances are that we land this magical QB? Since 2010 there have been 141 QBs drafted. Only 3 of the 141 drafted during that time have won a Super Bowl. One of those QBs is Nick Foles. The other 2 are Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes. You could argue 2 out of the 3 had “Fantasy” teams around them. Let that sink in for a minute.
 
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There is no plan B, here's how things go in Dallas...
Daks terrible, no it's not Daks fault it's the OL,
OL is terrible, no it's not the OL it's the Line Coach, the OL Coach is terrible, no it's not the OL Coach it's the Offensive Coordinator, the Offensive Coordinator is terrible it's his fault, no it's not the Offensive Coordinators fault its the Head Coaches fault, the Head Coach is terrible it's his fault, no it's not the Head Coaches fault it's the GM's fault, it's the GMs fault he's terrible, no it's not the GMs fault it's the owners fault for hiring the....... Oh, now I get it
 

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oh stop it...even a blind squirl finds a nut now and then. all of a sudden everyone shows up, I wanted this guy and should have traded the world to get him....lets not forget about the 19 other QBs you wanted and they all turned into trash. why don't you talk about that a bit. facts are that 4 out of 5 first round QBs fail. btw, Herbert with a loaded team...missed the playoffs.....so lets put the annointing oil away as Parcells used to say...

fact is if we would have caved in and signed him in 2018 for an extra million or two, for much much cheaper, we could get out of the contract this year....wouldn't that be a more realistic scenario?
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Well believe me or not I did think Herbert would be good and I did want him. How much would it have taken? I don't know. And no his team isn't loaded. They have a terrible defense with the worst run defense in the league. He is a much better QB the Prescott. This would have been my plan B. Not saying it would have worked, but any of those scenarios are better then the average QB making 40 million a year.
 
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my plan b is to be here for years laughing at you dak homers for being happy he killed this team for at the least 2 more years. dak garrett, team killer. what's even funnier is the stupid homers who were happy he got paid. what idiots!
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They should lose their posting rights until the day Dak is no longer in Dallas.
 
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Bring in some young guys to compete. I may have to pay Dak his ridiculous salary but if the team's better off with another guy so be it.
Dak can sit, maybe HE asks for trade!
 
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Lets all be honest here. In the NFL it's only maybe 4 quarterbacks you can depend on week in week out. The rest are Dakish or below. Only hope we have is getting a top pick and lucking out like we did with Aikman. In reality there probably is no good plan "B". Especially with the 2 stooges running things.:facepalm:
 
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sillycon said:
To win with Dak, we need a dominant OL again. We need upgrades. At this point, we have to get lucky in the draft because we have a couple of albatrosses with regards to salaries...
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It says a lot about the $40 million QB if he needs Pro Bowl players at every position to win.
 
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