Tradable Assets In Terms of Talent

Ring Leader · Jan 17, 2022

tyke1doe said:
Who's trading for Tyron Smith?He's near retirement.

I'm calling Cincinnati to test their Ohio River waters. They are a good O-line away from doing some serious damage. They may want Collins too. Hell I'd even "give" them Conner Williams for a bowl of Cincinnati Chili.

exciter · Jan 17, 2022

Verdict said:
Some of the following players have some degree of trade-ability in terms of their talent alone:

1. Dak. (His cap number is prohibitive)
2. Martin
3. Tyron Smith
4. CeeDee
5. Cooper
6. Parsons
7. Pollard
8. Tank (his cap number may make him un-tradeable to the team acquiring him)
9. Gallimore
10. Odiggie
11. Diggs
12. Anger

There may be a few others but that’s who comes to mind off the top of my head. Dak’s contract really makes it hard to trade him but he has value otherwise.

I would say that ANY player on this list should be evaluated and shopped to see what the market is for that player.

Tank, Tyron and possibly Pollard should be viewed as “salvage value” trades for the team. Get something out of them while you can and invest that “capital” back into the team.

Martin, Diggs, Cooper, and Parsons fall into a different class. In my opinion Diggs’ stock will never be higher. His INTs dropped into oblivion later in the year. If I could get a first round pick out of Diggs (and something else as a bonus —starting level player or a premium pick) he would be GONE, and I would draft his replacement.

Cooper is a guy who is replaceable and his cap percentage really makes the team top-heavy as to the cap. If I could get a first round pick out of him I would ship him out. A second might do it to a bad team picking in the top 5.

Martin is still a very good player, but if I get a first and a third out of him, he’s gone too. His best days are behind him.

Parsons is a guy you really DONT want to let go. But you shop him because you might get a Herschel Walker sort of trade for him. He’s at a high impact position. Luke Keuchly etc all played lights out for a while and then they fell off the face of the earth due to injuries. You shop a guy like that and see if someone will overpay to “get the next LT”.

Collins, his base jumps from 1.6m to 10m the next 3 season, his replacement is already in house and he’s an imbecile!

tyke1doe · Jan 17, 2022

Ring Leader said:
I'm calling Cincinnati to test their Ohio River waters. They are a good O-line away from doing some serious damage. They may want Collins too. Hell I'd even "give" them Conner Williams for a bowl of Cincinnati Chili.

baltcowboy · Jan 17, 2022

You can’t trade Dak (No trade clause). Why would you trade your All-Pro defensive players that are under team control for the next two years, Diggs, Parsons for the next 4 years. Maybe if there is an elite quarterback prospect, you could dangle those two in front of Jacksonville since they have Lawrence. I just don’t see Herbert, Allen in the next draft. In reality Cooper is the only tradable asset. You can get a third and fifth for him I guess.

atlantacowboy · Jan 17, 2022

People, when was the last successful trade Jerry swung that didn't involve Jimmy Johnson? I got nothing.

Jerry and son are imbeciles at player management b/c they don't follow other teams. I bet neither Jerry nor Stephen could name Philly's starting offense let alone Cincy's or Baltimores. If you aren't familiar with the talent in the league, how can you trade without getting ripped off? How can you sign players to realistic contracts? This is why we have so many bad contracts and do things like extend jaylon smith. They exist in a bubble and are only familiar with their own players.

The last thing we need is Jerry pulling out the rolodex and trying to swing a trade.

OmerV · Jan 17, 2022

Verdict said:
Some of the following players have some degree of trade-ability in terms of their talent alone:

1. Dak. (His cap number is prohibitive)
2. Martin
3. Tyron Smith
4. CeeDee
5. Cooper
6. Parsons
7. Pollard
8. Tank (his cap number may make him un-tradeable to the team acquiring him)
9. Gallimore
10. Odiggie
11. Diggs
12. Anger

There may be a few others but that’s who comes to mind off the top of my head. Dak’s contract really makes it hard to trade him but he has value otherwise.

I would say that ANY player on this list should be evaluated and shopped to see what the market is for that player.

Tank, Tyron and possibly Pollard should be viewed as “salvage value” trades for the team. Get something out of them while you can and invest that “capital” back into the team.

Martin, Diggs, Cooper, and Parsons fall into a different class. In my opinion Diggs’ stock will never be higher. His INTs dropped into oblivion later in the year. If I could get a first round pick out of Diggs (and something else as a bonus —starting level player or a premium pick) he would be GONE, and I would draft his replacement.

Cooper is a guy who is replaceable and his cap percentage really makes the team top-heavy as to the cap. If I could get a first round pick out of him I would ship him out. A second might do it to a bad team picking in the top 5.

Martin is still a very good player, but if I get a first and a third out of him, he’s gone too. His best days are behind him.

Parsons is a guy you really DONT want to let go. But you shop him because you might get a Herschel Walker sort of trade for him. He’s at a high impact position. Luke Keuchly etc all played lights out for a while and then they fell off the face of the earth due to injuries. You shop a guy like that and see if someone will overpay to “get the next LT”.

Some of these may make sense, but some do not.

PARSONS: Absolutely off limits while on a rookie contract. The guy is a true star and impact player in the league and he costs very little.
MARTIN: I don't see much slowing down, and with Williams a liability and Tyron Smith's health a concern, would we want to create another hole in the O-Line?
SMITH: His better days are truly behind him, and he could have trade value for a team on the verge of contending but that has a weakness at LT.
COOPER & LAMB: If we keep Gallup maybe one of these can go, but to lose Gallup and one of these would be shooting our offense in the foot.
ZEKE: Not sure why he isn't on the list. He would have some trade value, though not as much as we would like, and I think time has told us he isn't the special player he was in 2016.

OGCowboy · Jan 17, 2022

Some threads, like this one are laughable....

nightrain · Jan 17, 2022

Diggs, Lamb, Collins.

goshann · Jan 17, 2022

Verdict said:
Some of the following players have some degree of trade-ability in terms of their talent alone:

1. Dak. (His cap number is prohibitive)
2. Martin
3. Tyron Smith
4. CeeDee
5. Cooper
6. Parsons
7. Pollard
8. Tank (his cap number may make him un-tradeable to the team acquiring him)
9. Gallimore
10. Odiggie
11. Diggs
12. Anger

There may be a few others but that’s who comes to mind off the top of my head. Dak’s contract really makes it hard to trade him but he has value otherwise.

I would say that ANY player on this list should be evaluated and shopped to see what the market is for that player.

Tank, Tyron and possibly Pollard should be viewed as “salvage value” trades for the team. Get something out of them while you can and invest that “capital” back into the team.

Martin, Diggs, Cooper, and Parsons fall into a different class. In my opinion Diggs’ stock will never be higher. His INTs dropped into oblivion later in the year. If I could get a first round pick out of Diggs (and something else as a bonus —starting level player or a premium pick) he would be GONE, and I would draft his replacement.

Cooper is a guy who is replaceable and his cap percentage really makes the team top-heavy as to the cap. If I could get a first round pick out of him I would ship him out. A second might do it to a bad team picking in the top 5.

Martin is still a very good player, but if I get a first and a third out of him, he’s gone too. His best days are behind him.

Parsons is a guy you really DONT want to let go. But you shop him because you might get a Herschel Walker sort of trade for him. He’s at a high impact position. Luke Keuchly etc all played lights out for a while and then they fell off the face of the earth due to injuries. You shop a guy like that and see if someone will overpay to “get the next LT”.

Huh how is pollard included in that group ?

BleedSilverandBlue · Jan 17, 2022

Aerolithe_Lion said:
a 2nd is possible, but due to the contract I would assume 2 3’s or a 3 and a 4

I would take that considering he is probably on the way out anyways.

Cowpolk · Jan 17, 2022

charron said:
Dak has a no trade clause anyway and a no franchise tag clause.

Yep

Xavier187 · Jan 17, 2022

Wow these are the only players needing new homes.

Anthony Brown
Jourdan Lewis
Blake Jarwin
La'el Collins
Trystin Hill

If you get lucky
Mega trade Dak for Russell Wilson
No one will take Cooper or Zeke.
Schultz, Gregory Hooker, Neal, Kazee, Williams and Gallup are all gone.

Keep Kearse

MoistMayonnaise · Jan 17, 2022

We don't have any players with trade value that is worthwhile. There is a reason there are so few trades in the NFL.

ATXSRT · Jan 17, 2022

Aerolithe_Lion said:
You’ll never get a first round pick out of Cooper. He does not produce at the level a 1st round pick-valued receiver should, he is not consistently healthy, and no one would want to pay him the remainder of that albatross of a contract.

Patriots traded Brandon Cooks to the Rams in exchange for a first-rounder and 6th rounder in 2018. He only had 1000 yards and 7 TDs. I would think we could get at least a late 1st for Amari. But to be completely honest, for some reason I think the odd WR out might be CD Lamb. We could no doubt get a 1st + picks for him. And then we resign Gallup and either pay cut Amari or restructure.

Cowpolk · Jan 17, 2022

OGCowboy said:
Some threads, like this one are laughable....

It keeps the ledge jumpers occupied

Verdict · Jan 17, 2022

goshann said:
Huh how is pollard included in that group ?

Pollard still has one year left on his deal.

darthseinfeld · Jan 17, 2022

Aerolithe_Lion said:
a 2nd is possible, but due to the contract I would assume 2 3’s or a 3 and a 4

Is he still an 80 catch, 1000 yard guy? If a team thinks he is, he can probably get a #2 (most likely a low 2). His AAV looks bad on paper, but its really 17 per year which isnt bad for an 80 catch 1000 yard guy. His guarenteed is about up, so he will be willing to renegotiate. You can probably get him for an average of 16 over the next two seasons.

Before this year he has been pretty consistent in terms of production throughout his career. 80-1000ish. Low end #1, top end #2 type #'s. A good team that wants an weapon to make a run would probably give up a pick outside the top 50 for him.

I dont think trading him is the awnser though. Trading him just creates a hole out of thin air

visionary · Jan 17, 2022

I would trade Diggs or Cooper or both if I could get rd 2 picks for them

We need to build a physical team and Diggs can’t tackle

We don’t use Cooper because of our elite QB

visionary · Jan 17, 2022

darthseinfeld said:
Is he still an 80 catch, 1000 yard guy? If a team thinks he is, he can probably get a #2 (most likely a low 2). His AAV looks bad on paper, but its really 17 per year which isnt bad for an 80 catch 1000 yard guy. His guarenteed is about up, so he will be willing to renegotiate. You can probably get him for an average of 16 over the next two seasons.

Before this year he has been pretty consistent in terms of production throughout his career. 80-1000ish. Low end #1, top end #2 type #'s. A good team that wants an weapon to make a run would probably give up a pick outside the top 50 for him.

I dont think trading him is the awnser though. Trading him just creates a hole out of thin air

Cooper easily cracks 1000-1200 with a legit QB

easily

he’s a great route runner with excellent hands

darthseinfeld · Jan 17, 2022

visionary said:
I would trade Diggs or Cooper or both if I could get rd 2 picks for them

We need to build a physical team and Diggs can’t tackle

We don’t use Cooper because of our elite QB

Well he did have 70 to 90 catches with over 1K the past three years with Prescott.....but ok lol

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