Fix the O-Line

Steve007 · Jan 17, 2022

glimmerman said:
Not without bring us something more than what he is now. After the pats game something ain’t right.

Jerrry is about the show not football. He sells image. Dak was a 4th round pick that he sold as an elite franchise QB. I think he will keep Dak for many years. As long as fans keep buying what he has been selling.

DFWJC · Jan 17, 2022

Captain43Crash said:
USE YOUR OWN EYES!!!! Our O line sucks!

Maybe compared to 2016, but no...it does not remotely suck and is one of the better lines in the entire league.

The problem is that there are no truly dominant lines this year in the league.

Steve007 · Jan 17, 2022

DFWJC said:
Maybe compared to 2016, but no...it does not remotely suck and is one of the better lines in the entire league.

The problem is that there are no truly dominant lines this year in the league.

The o line isn't bad. It's just an excape goat. Dak holds the ball too long. Dak has had plenty of time in the pocket.

kwcool619 · Jan 17, 2022

Nexx said:
I feel like a lot of fans are blind to the fact that other QB's operate just fine under worse situations. Did anyone watch Mahomes get harassed yesterday?

I did see Mahomes get harassed last night. But like you said, he operated just fine--42 points. It's helpful to have a receiver core who can turn 10 yards to 30-40 yards in the blink of an eye.

DFWJC · Jan 17, 2022

Steve007 said:
The o line isn't bad. It's just an excape goat. Dak holds the ball too long. Dak has had plenty of time in the pocket.

One final ranking
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021-offensive-line-rankings

If your line is anywhere in that conversation for best you sure have no room to complain
PFF has the #1
but even they were a bit lower, they were still very good relative to other teams.

mardwin · Jan 17, 2022

TwoDeep3 said:
There is not real significant difference between Dak and Garappolo. But one guy yesterday stood in a clean pocket, while the other was being harassed.

The common denominator off all the losses, save for the one to TB, was the offensive line could not protect Dak. I am not making excuses for Dak's gaffs.

But this offense is greatly different when Dak can play mostly unmolested.

Now the Kleenex Teardrop Set will throw a fit. But the fact is Dallas is as good a team as San Fran. If you take into account Dallas needs a left guard and right tackle, and a massive DT.

It's easier to blame Dak for everything.

Truth is, this falls on a front office that cannot see year after year the same problems with the defensive line and the offensive line.

What game were you watching? Dallas was generating pressure but Garappolo wasn't holding on to the football. Dak was feeling pressure when the pocket was clean and had time.

lqmac1 · Jan 17, 2022

glimmerman said:
That’s the first and one of the only things we need to do. Today the O-Line coach should be fired. Way to many penalties over the season. Some that cost us big time…

I do hope Dak improves this offseason. After the injury he has not looked the same. The QB draw at the end of the game should have been not only earlier in the game but through the season. He has to take off. It’s part of his game. Takes the pressure off some of the Offense..

By the end of the game I was out of it. Just checked out. If they don’t improve expect the same. We knew they would run the ball but letting the qb look that good was bad.

Joe Philbin is awful. Williams is gone. You’ll have Smith, free agent/draft, Biadasz, Martin and Steele.

They obviously don’t like Collins at LG. I would also look to draft Tyron‘s replacement within the first 3 rounds to start grooming.

An good guards hitting agency?

lqmac1 · Jan 17, 2022

DFWJC said:
One final ranking
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2021-offensive-line-rankings

If your line is anywhere in that conversation for best you sure have no room to complain
PFF has the #1
but even they were a bit lower, they were still very good relative to other teams.

I don’t care about the rankings. When you have opposing D lineman say “they’re beatable“ & come out and get five sacks against them, that’s all I need to see.

Brooksey · Jan 17, 2022

glimmerman said:
That’s the first and one of the only things we need to do. Today the O-Line coach should be fired. Way to many penalties over the season. Some that cost us big time…

I do hope Dak improves this offseason. After the injury he has not looked the same. The QB draw at the end of the game should have been not only earlier in the game but through the season. He has to take off. It’s part of his game. Takes the pressure off some of the Offense..

By the end of the game I was out of it. Just checked out. If they don’t improve expect the same. We knew they would run the ball but letting the qb look that good was bad.

I can't disagree, the O-line coach should have this group more disciplined.

CCBoy · Jan 17, 2022

glimmerman said:
Crazy. The penalties these guys are doing are from coaching. Or lack of..

Not prepared and undisciplined. Oh, they have the homerun trot down...

Nexx · Jan 17, 2022

kwcool619 said:
I did see Mahomes get harassed last night. But like you said, he operated just fine--42 points. It's helpful to have a receiver core who can turn 10 yards to 30-40 yards in the blink of an eye.

very true but you have to get the ball the receiver accurately so they can turn up field quickly. even when we have those opportunities it seems the passes are behind, too high, too low or just un-catchable.

Xavier187 · Jan 17, 2022

lqmac1 said:
Joe Philbin is awful. Williams is gone. You’ll have Smith, free agent/draft, Biadasz, Martin and Steele.

They obviously don’t like Collins at LG. I would also look to draft Tyron‘s replacement within the first 3 rounds to start grooming.

An good guards hitting agency?

From conversations today we will jot be doing much in FA.

Look for them to draft our new LG

glimmerman · Jan 17, 2022

lqmac1 said:
I don’t care about the rankings. When you have opposing D lineman say “they’re beatable“ & come out and get five sacks against them, that’s all I need to see.

I didn’t realize they had 5. How many did we have..

nightrain · Jan 17, 2022

All in on the trenches, period. Both sides of the ball. They have to overcome mediocre QB play with dominance up front.

glimmerman · Jan 17, 2022

mardwin said:
What game were you watching? Dallas was generating pressure but Garappolo wasn't holding on to the football. Dak was feeling pressure when the pocket was clean and had time.

Yeah he has no pocket presents.

Miguelitomama · Jan 17, 2022

In unpacking everything that went wrong against good teams this year, this is the number one issue. Dak was scrambling constantly yesterday and there was no way to establish a running game. If you can't establish a running game, your offense is all too predictable. I forget which series it was but at one point, we had penalties that pushed us back, followed by an enormous sack. How can you possibly win with all of that garbage play.

Oh, and stop whining about the referees. The penalties were obvious.

glimmerman · Jan 17, 2022

nightrain said:
All in on the trenches, period. Both sides of the ball. They have to overcome mediocre QB play with dominance up front.

Sad to see 2 different styles of QB. One that’s really good and another that is afraid. Of everything..

lqmac1 · Jan 17, 2022

glimmerman said:
I didn’t realize they had 5. How many did we have..

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visionary · Jan 17, 2022

glimmerman said:
That’s the first and one of the only things we need to do. Today the O-Line coach should be fired. Way to many penalties over the season. Some that cost us big time…

I do hope Dak improves this offseason. After the injury he has not looked the same. The QB draw at the end of the game should have been not only earlier in the game but through the season. He has to take off. It’s part of his game. Takes the pressure off some of the Offense..

By the end of the game I was out of it. Just checked out. If they don’t improve expect the same. We knew they would run the ball but letting the qb look that good was bad.

Dak is who he is
He is not going to improve

We have to take the ball out of his hands and become a running team and a defensive oriented team

Need 2 starters on OL (OC and LOG)
Need a difference maker at 1 DT
Need a starter at MLB who can hit and run
Sign our safeties esp Kearse and Hooker
Draft a RB with balance, power and speed (the SF RB was a 6th round pick LOL) to pair with Pollard.

glimmerman · Jan 17, 2022

Steve007 said:
Jerrry is about the show not football. He sells image. Dak was a 4th round pick that he sold as an elite franchise QB. I think he will keep Dak for many years. As long as fans keep buying what he has been selling.

Unless we can find someone that jumps off the charts then Dak is the guy..

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