Twitter: Highest Rate of Pass-Catchers Considered Open or Wide Open During the 2021-22 Season

buddieluver · Jan 18, 2022

We gave a guy with 0 coaching experience a OC job Moore has no base offense to fall back on does not scheme.

Sydla · Jan 18, 2022

buddieluver said:
Don’t trust pff last I checked cowboys wr were ranked like 26th in separation.

Checked where?

irishline · Jan 18, 2022

rocyaice said:
I mean I think Dak is better but let's say they are even or even give the edge to Stafford...you're telling me you don't see a huge difference in Sean McVey and Kellen Moore lol?

Sure there us a difference but taken at face value it says that Moore schemed our receivers open only 1.2% of the time less than McVey did during the season.

Now you could argue that the percentages are off, but they would at least be using the same criteria for all teams.

MountaineerCowboy · Jan 18, 2022

buddieluver said:
We gave a guy with 0 coaching experience a OC job Moore has no base offense to fall back on does not scheme.

And yet he somehow calls plays that has his WRs open more than 28 other teams.

Amazing.

MajesticRey · Jan 18, 2022

dplant22 said:
I'd say they all have better QBs than Dallas as well. I know some will argue regarding Stafford but at least he will be playing next week

I don’t think anyone here seriously thinks Dak is better than Rodgers, Brady or Mahomes. What most of us “Dak defenders” preach is that he’s a limited QB (who is paid a lot because QB comes at a premium, regardless of being “elite” or not) that needs lots of support.

What I saw was the 49ers living in the backfield all afternoon and no run game to speak of. Dak had his share of dumb moments, but our trench play is mediocre at best. Martin (and Smith IF he’s healthy) can’t do it all. Fix the OL and Dak can have more games like the ones from earlier in the season.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 18, 2022

irishline said:
Sure there us a difference but taken at face value it says that Moore schemed our receivers open only 1.2% of the time less than McVey did during the season.

Now you could argue that the percentages are off, but they would at least be using the same criteria for all teams.

PFF also says Trevon Diggs was one of the worst corners in the league last year...just saying lol...

JBS · Jan 18, 2022

Well this is pretty embarrassing

Zman5 · Jan 18, 2022

rocyaice said:
Every single one of them has a OC better than Kellen Moore lol....their OC's aren't learning on the fly.

MoistMayonnaise · Jan 18, 2022

Here is one thing Dak cannot do: throw receivers open.

Dak is also bad at finding open receivers that are moving and hitting receivers in stride.

dfense · Jan 18, 2022

rocyaice said:
Yeah I mean I don't think its far fetched to say Rodgers, Brady and Mahomes are better. Not at all. Three of the best QB's in the league...yet Dak had comparable stats to two of them.....

The BIG BIG BIG difference that all the Dak supporters refuse to acknowledge is that he consistently fails to show up in big games. If he doesn't have a running game bailing him out, he will lose. period.

khiladi · Jan 18, 2022

It thought it was Moore?

Playmaker3128 · Jan 18, 2022

rocyaice said:
Every single one of them has a OC better than Kellen Moore lol....their OC's aren't learning on the fly.

Yeah bur according to that tweet more is doing his job scheming them open at times. Why isn’t the qb getting the ball to them?

khiladi · Jan 18, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Yeah....

That's what it is...

Apparently it’s the OF fault for our WRs being open? You would think if it was the OCs fault, the exact opposite problem would be the problem, which is Moore isn’t getting his WRs open…

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 18, 2022

Playmaker3128 said:
Yeah bur according to that tweet more is doing his job scheming them open at times. Why isn’t the qb getting the ball to them?

Is he really scheming them open though? We are going to give Cooper and Lamb getting open credit to Moore "scheming" them open?

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 18, 2022

Zman5 said:

Damn Bob Sturm said that too well........

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 18, 2022

dfense said:
The BIG BIG BIG difference that all the Dak supporters refuse to acknowledge is that he consistently fails to show up in big games. If he doesn't have a running game bailing him out, he will lose. period.

When the hell is the last time his "running game" bailed him out lol? Surely wasn't Zeke because I was told on here that Zeke sucked.......

And we already know "big games" is subjective. If he loses it was a big game...if he wins he was suppose to win...because there is no way anyone can blame him for losing to the Buccaneers opening night....

Playmaker3128 · Jan 18, 2022

rocyaice said:
Is he really scheming them open though? We are going to give Cooper and Lamb getting open credit to Moore "scheming" them open?

ok fair enough… so then yes we need to do a better job of getting them the ball.

However late in the game on 3rd and 5 at mid field when dak is checking down to zeke in the flat. Have a problem with that. That’s on dak.

I’d almost dak start forcing some more throw into tight coverage and risk ints then play how conservative he does. Also you can’t tell me there are 0 deep ball opportunities for us in games. We never throw them

ICP · Jan 18, 2022

MajesticRey said:
I don’t think anyone here seriously thinks Dak is better than Rodgers, Brady or Mahomes. What most of us “Dak defenders” preach is that he’s a limited QB (who is paid a lot because QB comes at a premium, regardless of being “elite” or not) that needs lots of support.

What I saw was the 49ers living in the backfield all afternoon and no run game to speak of. Dak had his share of dumb moments, but our trench play is mediocre at best. Martin (and Smith IF he’s healthy) can’t do it all. Fix the OL and Dak can have more games like the ones from earlier in the season.

Totally agree that the OL is the priority to fix

dfense · Jan 18, 2022

rocyaice said:
When the hell is the last time his "running game" bailed him out lol? Surely wasn't Zeke because I was told on here that Zeke sucked.......

And we already know "big games" is subjective. If he loses it was a big game...if he wins he was suppose to win...because there is no way anyone can blame him for losing to the Buccaneers opening night....

Yup, broken clock, twice a day etc.

jwooten15 · Jan 18, 2022

Sydla said:
Oooffff.

Now it's PFF and I take their stats with big grains of salt but even during the telecast Sunday, Romo was trying to be diplomatic but you could tell he was itching to continually point out the guys Dak was missing who were open.

The thing with Dak is there was a point in time when he was too aggressive. Like in that Tampa Bay game, he was taking chances on throws that were risky. But somewhere along the line this season, he seemed to regress, often taking the quick dump off, etc.

People that have watched the All 22, especially over the 2nd half the season, have noted he seems to be missing guys way more than he ever did.

It’s so depressing. I’ve never seen a more bipolar QB. I honestly haven’t. And at this point, I have zero faith that he can string together 3-4 straight good/great games and win a championship.

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