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Everyone knows the reason why the Dallas Cowboys can't get to a NFCCG since Jimmy Johnson left.

We've gone over it millions of times.

But by all means. Continue.
Roster was more than good enough, coaching philosophy wasn’t. I don’t think Jerry is a factor in this. If the team had no good players then OK, but that wasn’t the issue this year.

I don’t think Mike was a bad hire given that year had few good candidates, and I don’t think Moore is a bad OC. They just aren’t/weren’t good enough to beat other teams with similar talent and better coaching. Maybe Moore can develop, but the issue here the last 8 or so years has been coaching not player acquisition.

But yeah if Jerry keeps screwing hirings up I see your point, I just don’t blame him for Mike cause that one made logical sense at least.
 

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Yeah but now you’re arguing against a whole system. You think I like how the QB market works? Some things are what they are. The reality is that if you’re a top 10-ish QB you’re gonna get a market setting deal. Arguing that shouldn’t happen isn’t one that is rooted in reality. At the end of the day that’s just how this thing works, and in 2 years when 5-6 guys top Dak’s price, his salary will be more in line with his ranking.

Again the logic makes sense to pay a guy what he’s ranked, but that’s not how the FA market works man. If it was so easy to live in the world you suggest, why don’t NFL teams do it? I’m just talking about the reality of the NFL. Completely understand your sentiment but that’s just not the system.

I am happy for you. It must be nice to be happy with the decisions the F.O. have made.
 

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I am happy for you. It must be nice to be happy with the decisions the F.O. have made.
Oh like I said earlier, this isn’t a FO thing. It’s the reality of the league. Anyone who qualifies as a franchise QB will get paid top dollar. I’m just the messenger, I don’t make the rules.

Maybe write the owners a letter about suppressing the market? They are the ones who set the prices so as long as they are all willing to pay 40M+ for top 12ish QB’s it’ll be the reality.

By all means complain if you want it’s not a good principle so I get it. But griping about it won’t change anything. I’m trying to talk about real changes that can happen to move us forward, not gonna dwell on things like the QB market when it’s already set.

It is what it is, how do we make the best out of it? That’s what I like to discuss.
 

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"I’m trying to talk about real changes that can happen to move us forward, not gonna dwell on things like the QB market when it’s already set." This whole back and forth is because I offered the solution.

"Don't give out superstar level contracts to non-superstar players. This offseason offers the chance to get rid of some past mistakes. Cooper, Dlaw, Collins and Tyron should all be on the trade block. Next year Zeke. Stay young, keep players hungry and fighting for roster spots instead of fat and content."

This belief that the market for a middling QB is supposed to be a new record and include a no trade clause and be only 4 years to offer no flexibility, only happens if the idiot GM go's along with it.
 

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I took a few days off to avoid the huge emotional outpour and hyperbole. Sucked to lose that game and didn’t want to wade in the pool of despair. Now that I’ve had time to look forward, I think the fix to getting to the next level is pretty simple and takes two steps:

1. Fix the run game! This means schematically, the O line personnel, and adjusting the roles of Zeke/Pollard.

Dak probably will never be an elite QB, but he’s more than good enough to make a playoff/SB run if the team is built correctly. More on Kellen below, but they made it obvious that they hoped a high flying passing attack would lead them to where they wanted to go, which was a miscalculation. Tannehill, Garrappolo, and even Goff have ridden high caliber run games and creative play action passing to Conference Championship Games. It’s those blueprints we must follow, not Kansas City or Buffalo.

Regardless if you think Dak is 7-10 or 11-13 overall amongst QB’s, the gap between team building for the elite 5-6 guys is way different than for the next group. Outside of those top guys, QB’s need ample support. Talk about trading or cutting him is not actually possible, so we must continue to build the best team possible around him. This ain’t a Dak thread, but had to put this here as a disclaimer that we must find ways to build around him, bickering about him being here is pointless.


2. Offensive scheme needs adjustment.

Talked about it a bit above but Moore has made it clear that either he doesn’t know how to scheme up a good run game or he doesn’t want to. I underestimated how Kellen’s Linehan/Garrett tutelage mixed in with his Chris Petersen tutelage. Moore likes the trickery and formation splitting of his college coach, but the bread and butter of his route combinations and tendencies come from Linehan/Garrett with whom he spent his entire NFL career with.

Moore seems to be just as pass-happy as Garrett was while using many of the same route combinations Linehan did. Multiple WR’s running stop routes, long developing routes, and a lack of a cohesive quick passing game all scream the previous regime. Multiple analysts broke these combinations down, and even though Dak missed on some stuff, the overwhelming sentiment is that there is too much simplicity in these concepts. Where have we heard that before? This coaching tree isn’t super adaptive either, and nothing has shown us that Moore is different in that regard.

Again, they miscalculated the pass vs run split when trying to create an offensive identity. Not sure if Moore and McCarthy are the right guys to make the necessary changes there.

The final issue with our scheme is that we don’t really have one. Here’s the link to an amazing Ringer article about Moore’s “scheme”. In a nutshell, he tries to take what the defense gives him. The pillars of this philosophy are “if they try to defend the run we pass and vice versa” and “if they try to take away your best players, we use our role players.” Interesting read, but this presents two fundamental issues:

‘How Kellen Moore’s Anti-System is Fueling the Cowboys’
https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott

Issue 1) We have no go-to or bread and butter plays. Since you allow the defense to dictate your a strategy, you’re at their mercy. When things don’t go as planned, a lack of having go-to plays and “this is what we do” calls doesn’t allow your offense to go back into their comfort zone. The team doesn’t have its set of plays that they feel most comfortable and successful with.

Issue 2) Allowing the defense to scheme away your top targets makes you weaker regardless of how deep your weapon pool is. Yes we love Wilson and Schultz, but you can’t ignore Lamb and Cooper because the defense is scheming against them. We heard Cooper speak up but Lamn fizzled out the second half of this year and I believe it has a lot to do with Moore simply going to who has the “matchup”. Your star skill players should be targeted and relied upon to carry the bulk of your offensive production, regardless of how the defense is playing them. Relying on solid contributors to contribute like stars is unreasonable.


I know it was a long post, but if we can fix these two problems we’ll be just fine. The defense is built to play with a lead and be fresh and running the ball maximizes that. Would love to keep Quinn as HC and hire a great run-schemer as the OC. A ball control offense that can beat you over the top coupled with this defense would be a match made in Heaven. Anyways these are my thoughts, any ideas?
Very insightful post and a fully agree all what you have said. Let’s just hope Moore gets a hc job
 

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I took a few days off to avoid the huge emotional outpour and hyperbole. Sucked to lose that game and didn’t want to wade in the pool of despair. Now that I’ve had time to look forward, I think the fix to getting to the next level is pretty simple and takes two steps:

1. Fix the run game! This means schematically, the O line personnel, and adjusting the roles of Zeke/Pollard.

Dak probably will never be an elite QB, but he’s more than good enough to make a playoff/SB run if the team is built correctly. More on Kellen below, but they made it obvious that they hoped a high flying passing attack would lead them to where they wanted to go, which was a miscalculation. Tannehill, Garrappolo, and even Goff have ridden high caliber run games and creative play action passing to Conference Championship Games. It’s those blueprints we must follow, not Kansas City or Buffalo.

Regardless if you think Dak is 7-10 or 11-13 overall amongst QB’s, the gap between team building for the elite 5-6 guys is way different than for the next group. Outside of those top guys, QB’s need ample support. Talk about trading or cutting him is not actually possible, so we must continue to build the best team possible around him. This ain’t a Dak thread, but had to put this here as a disclaimer that we must find ways to build around him, bickering about him being here is pointless.


2. Offensive scheme needs adjustment.

Talked about it a bit above but Moore has made it clear that either he doesn’t know how to scheme up a good run game or he doesn’t want to. I underestimated how Kellen’s Linehan/Garrett tutelage mixed in with his Chris Petersen tutelage. Moore likes the trickery and formation splitting of his college coach, but the bread and butter of his route combinations and tendencies come from Linehan/Garrett with whom he spent his entire NFL career with.

Moore seems to be just as pass-happy as Garrett was while using many of the same route combinations Linehan did. Multiple WR’s running stop routes, long developing routes, and a lack of a cohesive quick passing game all scream the previous regime. Multiple analysts broke these combinations down, and even though Dak missed on some stuff, the overwhelming sentiment is that there is too much simplicity in these concepts. Where have we heard that before? This coaching tree isn’t super adaptive either, and nothing has shown us that Moore is different in that regard.

Again, they miscalculated the pass vs run split when trying to create an offensive identity. Not sure if Moore and McCarthy are the right guys to make the necessary changes there.

The final issue with our scheme is that we don’t really have one. Here’s the link to an amazing Ringer article about Moore’s “scheme”. In a nutshell, he tries to take what the defense gives him. The pillars of this philosophy are “if they try to defend the run we pass and vice versa” and “if they try to take away your best players, we use our role players.” Interesting read, but this presents two fundamental issues:

‘How Kellen Moore’s Anti-System is Fueling the Cowboys’
https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott

Issue 1) We have no go-to or bread and butter plays. Since you allow the defense to dictate your a strategy, you’re at their mercy. When things don’t go as planned, a lack of having go-to plays and “this is what we do” calls doesn’t allow your offense to go back into their comfort zone. The team doesn’t have its set of plays that they feel most comfortable and successful with.

Issue 2) Allowing the defense to scheme away your top targets makes you weaker regardless of how deep your weapon pool is. Yes we love Wilson and Schultz, but you can’t ignore Lamb and Cooper because the defense is scheming against them. We heard Cooper speak up but Lamn fizzled out the second half of this year and I believe it has a lot to do with Moore simply going to who has the “matchup”. Your star skill players should be targeted and relied upon to carry the bulk of your offensive production, regardless of how the defense is playing them. Relying on solid contributors to contribute like stars is unreasonable.


I know it was a long post, but if we can fix these two problems we’ll be just fine. The defense is built to play with a lead and be fresh and running the ball maximizes that. Would love to keep Quinn as HC and hire a great run-schemer as the OC. A ball control offense that can beat you over the top coupled with this defense would be a match made in Heaven. Anyways these are my thoughts, any ideas?
Good post!
The run scheme is not good under Kellen Moore, and it's been on McCarthy's watch. Nothing has changed since 2016...the proper identity of the Cowboys offense is good-to-great running game, and play action passes. Something in this Organization is not right because it is really simple, yet someone wants to throw ball all game...don't know if its the Owner or anyone else down to the OC, but He or They is the problem on offense.

I agree with the approach. Coop is out 2022. Zeke out 2023...that's how I see it too. I'm adamant about them drafting a RB in '22 it's a good class imho. By all means draft 2 OL...they need C, OG and OT.
 

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I agree fixing the running game will go a long way in helping Dak and giving the offense more balance.

The question is how to do so quickly. Maybe target center/tackle/guard early in draft? I heard this a good OT draft. You could possibly take the 1st/2nd rated center and a pretty good tackle, possibly move Collins to LG and start Steele.

That strategy just leaves me worried with:

who we lose on defense, including DQ, and how we address those needs at the same time.
Yeah you have to hit on those early round interior lineman picks. I think just adding one high level interior lineman changes a lot, but more importantly is scheming a run game. If we have a top tier run scheme then we don’t have to overhaul personnel.

I agree though, losing Quinn and multiple defensive starters will hurt. I have alot more faith in Joe Whitt than I do the team moving on from Moore /McCarthy and getting a better run-schemer in there.

It’s not a complicated fix but it can’t be tip toed around, either you commit to a run-first style or jump right back on the treadmill.
 

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"I’m trying to talk about real changes that can happen to move us forward, not gonna dwell on things like the QB market when it’s already set." This whole back and forth is because I offered the solution.

"Don't give out superstar level contracts to non-superstar players. This offseason offers the chance to get rid of some past mistakes. Cooper, Dlaw, Collins and Tyron should all be on the trade block. Next year Zeke. Stay young, keep players hungry and fighting for roster spots instead of fat and content."

This belief that the market for a middling QB is supposed to be a new record and include a no trade clause and be only 4 years to offer no flexibility, only happens if the idiot GM go's along with it.

I don’t blame you for the idea, it makes sense in theory. But the bolded last line sums it up. The GM’s in the league have elected to cave to these market demands. Blaming us for doing what everyone does is kind of pointless because this is just how the league operates.

Again, I would love for there to be a tiered system for QB’s where elites get elite money, good gets good, and average gets average. Unfortunately, that’s not the world we live in. So we can continue to be upset about it or accept it and find ways to build a SB team like every other team with a high paid QB.

I don’t mean to attack you buddy, just don’t think arguing about the QB market is a substantial one because it’s one of those things that has become status quo.
 

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Very insightful post and a fully agree all what you have said. Let’s just hope Moore gets a hc job
Agreed, Moore is scarily similar to his predecessors. One thing that gives me hope is maybe his youth and personality allow him to be flexible and make real efforts to fix his deficiencies.

Not holding my breathe but that’s all I can come up for in terms of optimist regarding Kellen lol.
 

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Good post!
The run scheme is not good under Kellen Moore, and it's been on McCarthy's watch. Nothing has changed since 2016...the proper identity of the Cowboys offense is good-to-great running game, and play action passes. Something in this Organization is not right because it is really simple, yet someone wants to throw ball all game...don't know if its the Owner or anyone else down to the OC, but He or They is the problem on offense.

I agree with the approach. Coop is out 2022. Zeke out 2023...that's how I see it too. I'm adamant about them drafting a RB in '22 it's a good class imho. By all means draft 2 OL...they need C, OG and OT.
Yessir! That draft approach should help tremendously.
 

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Anyone know what OC candidates are great run-schemers? Anyone out of the Shanahan tree would be great. Bill Callahan as an O-line coach would be a dream as well.
Callahan was awesome, but he’d probably never work for Jerry again. I like Josh McDaniel. He’s been successful with great receivers and guys we didn’t even know. NE always has had success running the ball with guys like Burkhead, etc. They’ve never had multiple pro bowl blockers like Dallas has had. It’s scheme and play calling, and not giving up the run after getting stuffed at the line a few times. It’s not even about having a great run game. The defense has to tackle the RB whether he’s got a 5 YPC avg or 3.5. But when you stop running, you limit the effectiveness of your QB and receivers whom you pay dearly. Play action only works when you make it work. If you run the ball 20-25 times a game, playaction works whether the yardage was 85 or 150. It’s not just the QB finding the passing lanes because the pressure isn’t moving him off his mark. It helps the receivers find open lanes and easy catches. Getting a step on your defender isn’t as helpful when the LBs and S’s are all dropping to intercept your route unless the QB is free to deliver at the precise moment instead of side stepping or resetting the pocket and now looking for another lane.
 

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I took a few days off to avoid the huge emotional outpour and hyperbole. Sucked to lose that game and didn’t want to wade in the pool of despair. Now that I’ve had time to look forward, I think the fix to getting to the next level is pretty simple and takes two steps:

1. Fix the run game! This means schematically, the O line personnel, and adjusting the roles of Zeke/Pollard.

Dak probably will never be an elite QB, but he’s more than good enough to make a playoff/SB run if the team is built correctly. More on Kellen below, but they made it obvious that they hoped a high flying passing attack would lead them to where they wanted to go, which was a miscalculation. Tannehill, Garrappolo, and even Goff have ridden high caliber run games and creative play action passing to Conference Championship Games. It’s those blueprints we must follow, not Kansas City or Buffalo.

Regardless if you think Dak is 7-10 or 11-13 overall amongst QB’s, the gap between team building for the elite 5-6 guys is way different than for the next group. Outside of those top guys, QB’s need ample support. Talk about trading or cutting him is not actually possible, so we must continue to build the best team possible around him. This ain’t a Dak thread, but had to put this here as a disclaimer that we must find ways to build around him, bickering about him being here is pointless.


2. Offensive scheme needs adjustment.

Talked about it a bit above but Moore has made it clear that either he doesn’t know how to scheme up a good run game or he doesn’t want to. I underestimated how Kellen’s Linehan/Garrett tutelage mixed in with his Chris Petersen tutelage. Moore likes the trickery and formation splitting of his college coach, but the bread and butter of his route combinations and tendencies come from Linehan/Garrett with whom he spent his entire NFL career with.

Moore seems to be just as pass-happy as Garrett was while using many of the same route combinations Linehan did. Multiple WR’s running stop routes, long developing routes, and a lack of a cohesive quick passing game all scream the previous regime. Multiple analysts broke these combinations down, and even though Dak missed on some stuff, the overwhelming sentiment is that there is too much simplicity in these concepts. Where have we heard that before? This coaching tree isn’t super adaptive either, and nothing has shown us that Moore is different in that regard.

Again, they miscalculated the pass vs run split when trying to create an offensive identity. Not sure if Moore and McCarthy are the right guys to make the necessary changes there.

The final issue with our scheme is that we don’t really have one. Here’s the link to an amazing Ringer article about Moore’s “scheme”. In a nutshell, he tries to take what the defense gives him. The pillars of this philosophy are “if they try to defend the run we pass and vice versa” and “if they try to take away your best players, we use our role players.” Interesting read, but this presents two fundamental issues:

‘How Kellen Moore’s Anti-System is Fueling the Cowboys’
https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott

Issue 1) We have no go-to or bread and butter plays. Since you allow the defense to dictate your a strategy, you’re at their mercy. When things don’t go as planned, a lack of having go-to plays and “this is what we do” calls doesn’t allow your offense to go back into their comfort zone. The team doesn’t have its set of plays that they feel most comfortable and successful with.

Issue 2) Allowing the defense to scheme away your top targets makes you weaker regardless of how deep your weapon pool is. Yes we love Wilson and Schultz, but you can’t ignore Lamb and Cooper because the defense is scheming against them. We heard Cooper speak up but Lamn fizzled out the second half of this year and I believe it has a lot to do with Moore simply going to who has the “matchup”. Your star skill players should be targeted and relied upon to carry the bulk of your offensive production, regardless of how the defense is playing them. Relying on solid contributors to contribute like stars is unreasonable.


I know it was a long post, but if we can fix these two problems we’ll be just fine. The defense is built to play with a lead and be fresh and running the ball maximizes that. Would love to keep Quinn as HC and hire a great run-schemer as the OC. A ball control offense that can beat you over the top coupled with this defense would be a match made in Heaven. Anyways these are my thoughts, any ideas?
The Three Toe Sloth better known as Prescot will never ever lead this team anywhere and it's really going to get bad when the other teams in the East start playing like real NFL teams. The Sloth is so fricking horrible that Vegas has the real Three Toe Sloth a favorite over Prescot in a reading ability test. Vegas knows that the Sloth personating as a Dallas Cowboy QB is so bad that they're laying odds that the Cowboys won't be employing anyone with pass catching abilities because THE SLOTH refuses to pass it to anyone with a star on their helmet. The Sloth is nothing more than a mediocre KIRK COUSINS CLONE.....
 

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Two other things I noticed about the game plan and/or execution:

  1. The Hulk package. During the game when the offense wasn't doing much, Moore went to the Hulk package - with two additional linemen on the field. Suddenly, the offense sprang to life and we drove down the field to score. and then - poof! - the package was gone. Not used again - for running the football anyway. When I did see it in use later, Moore tried to 'get cute' with it and pass the ball. The defense wasn't fooled whatsoever and Dak threw into double coverage and only luck prevented an interception.
  2. Secondly, and the most disturbing trend, where are the downfield throws? The one time I actually saw Dak and the offense try, it resulted in Cooper's touchdown catch. And once again - I never saw it happen again. Opposing defenses aren't going to play it straight when they have no fear that you will attack them deep. This plays into the hands of those playing man outside. You have to make them pay, or at least try. If there is not attempt, there is no fear. The defense dictates to you.

Tried a deep ball to Wilson and he fell over his own feet. Sad.

I'm pretty sure Dak also tried an ill advised deep ball to Wilson into double coverage. No chance at all. Lucky it wasn't intercepted.

As for the Hulk Package, I was calling for that as a staple games ago. McGovern and Steele are both borderline starters. We've got more quality beef than most teams can handle, and clearing out the secondary puts more pressure on the remaining guys to cover Lamb and Cooper.

Pollard, Lamb, Cooper and the Hulks were probably our best package once Gallup went down. Fewer receivers in the routes simplifies things for Dak too. Good thing on a bad day for him.
 

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You don’t think that if we adjusted the O to a run-first/ play action scheme that this years defense would’ve been enough?

Literally the only issue we had this year was run defense and we finished middle of the pack. Even in the second half of the niners game we held up extremely well. We do give up yards, but as the defense gets more talented (new LB’s and Bossman over AB) we’ll tighten that up.

I don’t mean that we need to stand pat on D, there are definitely upgrades to be made. But in this era of defense where no one is dominant, you need to be good at certain things. Scoring D, 3rd down, turnovers, and pressures are super important and we did those very well this year.

Just marry offensive and defensive styles together (run first/ball control offense with aggressive turnover producing defense) and you’re more than good there.
I do not.

Don't get me wrong, if you want to win a division or two, this D is fine. If you want to win some playoff games, this D is not fine.

In the playoffs, you no longer get to play easy teams. If your D cannot make a stop, you're not getting much past the first round.
 

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I took a few days off to avoid the huge emotional outpour and hyperbole. Sucked to lose that game and didn’t want to wade in the pool of despair. Now that I’ve had time to look forward, I think the fix to getting to the next level is pretty simple and takes two steps:

1. Fix the run game! This means schematically, the O line personnel, and adjusting the roles of Zeke/Pollard.

Dak probably will never be an elite QB, but he’s more than good enough to make a playoff/SB run if the team is built correctly. More on Kellen below, but they made it obvious that they hoped a high flying passing attack would lead them to where they wanted to go, which was a miscalculation. Tannehill, Garrappolo, and even Goff have ridden high caliber run games and creative play action passing to Conference Championship Games. It’s those blueprints we must follow, not Kansas City or Buffalo.

Regardless if you think Dak is 7-10 or 11-13 overall amongst QB’s, the gap between team building for the elite 5-6 guys is way different than for the next group. Outside of those top guys, QB’s need ample support. Talk about trading or cutting him is not actually possible, so we must continue to build the best team possible around him. This ain’t a Dak thread, but had to put this here as a disclaimer that we must find ways to build around him, bickering about him being here is pointless.


2. Offensive scheme needs adjustment.

Talked about it a bit above but Moore has made it clear that either he doesn’t know how to scheme up a good run game or he doesn’t want to. I underestimated how Kellen’s Linehan/Garrett tutelage mixed in with his Chris Petersen tutelage. Moore likes the trickery and formation splitting of his college coach, but the bread and butter of his route combinations and tendencies come from Linehan/Garrett with whom he spent his entire NFL career with.

Moore seems to be just as pass-happy as Garrett was while using many of the same route combinations Linehan did. Multiple WR’s running stop routes, long developing routes, and a lack of a cohesive quick passing game all scream the previous regime. Multiple analysts broke these combinations down, and even though Dak missed on some stuff, the overwhelming sentiment is that there is too much simplicity in these concepts. Where have we heard that before? This coaching tree isn’t super adaptive either, and nothing has shown us that Moore is different in that regard.

Again, they miscalculated the pass vs run split when trying to create an offensive identity. Not sure if Moore and McCarthy are the right guys to make the necessary changes there.

The final issue with our scheme is that we don’t really have one. Here’s the link to an amazing Ringer article about Moore’s “scheme”. In a nutshell, he tries to take what the defense gives him. The pillars of this philosophy are “if they try to defend the run we pass and vice versa” and “if they try to take away your best players, we use our role players.” Interesting read, but this presents two fundamental issues:

‘How Kellen Moore’s Anti-System is Fueling the Cowboys’
https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott

Issue 1) We have no go-to or bread and butter plays. Since you allow the defense to dictate your a strategy, you’re at their mercy. When things don’t go as planned, a lack of having go-to plays and “this is what we do” calls doesn’t allow your offense to go back into their comfort zone. The team doesn’t have its set of plays that they feel most comfortable and successful with.

Issue 2) Allowing the defense to scheme away your top targets makes you weaker regardless of how deep your weapon pool is. Yes we love Wilson and Schultz, but you can’t ignore Lamb and Cooper because the defense is scheming against them. We heard Cooper speak up but Lamn fizzled out the second half of this year and I believe it has a lot to do with Moore simply going to who has the “matchup”. Your star skill players should be targeted and relied upon to carry the bulk of your offensive production, regardless of how the defense is playing them. Relying on solid contributors to contribute like stars is unreasonable.


I know it was a long post, but if we can fix these two problems we’ll be just fine. The defense is built to play with a lead and be fresh and running the ball maximizes that. Would love to keep Quinn as HC and hire a great run-schemer as the OC. A ball control offense that can beat you over the top coupled with this defense would be a match made in Heaven. Anyways these are my thoughts, any ideas?

Sounds logical. Thank you for putting the time into it.

But let's remember who runs this team. Any changes will be superficial. Jerry is still convinced he has a Super Bowl team (spoiler: he doesn't), so the prescription will be to work harder, and keep complaining about the refs.

Expect similar results next season, at best.
 

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Callahan was awesome, but he’d probably never work for Jerry again. I like Josh McDaniel. He’s been successful with great receivers and guys we didn’t even know. NE always has had success running the ball with guys like Burkhead, etc. They’ve never had multiple pro bowl blockers like Dallas has had. It’s scheme and play calling, and not giving up the run after getting stuffed at the line a few times. It’s not even about having a great run game. The defense has to tackle the RB whether he’s got a 5 YPC avg or 3.5. But when you stop running, you limit the effectiveness of your QB and receivers whom you pay dearly. Play action only works when you make it work. If you run the ball 20-25 times a game, playaction works whether the yardage was 85 or 150. It’s not just the QB finding the passing lanes because the pressure isn’t moving him off his mark. It helps the receivers find open lanes and easy catches. Getting a step on your defender isn’t as helpful when the LBs and S’s are all dropping to intercept your route unless the QB is free to deliver at the precise moment instead of side stepping or resetting the pocket and now looking for another lane.
I love everything else you said, but NE always has a top 5 OL.
 
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