Found your DT to stop the run

timb2 said:

Actually like his teammate Devonte Wyatt better.

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CalPolyTechnique said:

I think Davis is so overrated he’s now underrated at this point, lol.

To me, he’s the classic back end of R1 guy that some playoff team ends up drafting, helps continue that team’s success, and then everyone is left asking “how in the world did Team X manage to get that guy?”

His impact on the game isn’t captured in the box score necessarily. His immense size/power commands a double team and he still is able to collapse the pocket allowing others to feast.

Davis is not my top target but if the board falls a certain way I wouldn’t be too upset if we took him.

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John813 said:

I admit I don't watch UGA that often. I was sort of curious to why they subbed him in and out often/clear passing downs. Wanted to look into it maybe I did but have since forgotten the reason.

Is it a conditioning issue or they are just loaded with talent to where let a fully rested quicker DT get that 3rd down snap?
While I think whoever is the DC next year will rotate like Quinn did, I just hope maybe he does have some hidden pass traits that were never given time to develop/be shown due to Georgia being a powerhouse in defensive talent.

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CalPolyTechnique said:

They are certainly loaded with talent on the DL in Georgia. That said, from what I’ve watched they substituted him a lot on obvious passing downs for better pass rushers, which just makes sense.

The last game I watched him in was the National Championship against Bama and he was a force. Again, guys that big (Davis, Ngata, Vea, etc.) are never going to rack up big-time sack numbers. Ngata never had more than 5.5 sacks; Vea never more than 4 sacks. However, what they can do is collapse the pocket and let the smaller guys eat.

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John813 said:

Yea for sure. Wasn't implying he had to have 10 sack potential, or even 5. But just to be someone the line has to have two guys on for run and passing downs.
Just some type of trait that he can also be that same force on pass blockers that he is on run blockers. He's hard to move back/clear a lane. but just hope he has that brute strength that can be a force on passing downs.

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• Has the upper-body strength to rock his opponent back onto his heels.
• Provides some secondary interior pass rush, getting most penetration when playing three technique.
• Strong, stout interior presence who often requires double team blocks to keep him from clogging running lanes. Short, thick legs and thick trunk which aid him in anchoring.
• Played with good leverage, even on the nose, despite average bulk. Hustle defender with a good bull rush inside that can close and get home when quarterbacks leave the pocket.
• Has the ability to create a pile in the middle, even showing the ability to split the occasional double-team. However, is just as often blown off the ball due to his high pad level.

• He struggles with leverage off the snap and plays too tall, limiting his effectiveness as a pass rusher.
• Plays upright and struggles with leverage. Too often stonewalled at the line and doesn't show the hand strength or technique to shed or redirect blockers.
• Doesn't play fundamentally sound and lacks much technique in his repertoire.
• Good strength, though his marginal arm length limits his ability to grab hold of ballcarriers as they run by.
• Lacks closing speed and inconsistent quickness off the snap prevents him from being an elite pass rusher.

CalPolyTechnique said:

They are certainly loaded with talent on the DL in Georgia. That said, from what I’ve watched they substituted him a lot on obvious passing downs for better pass rushers, which just makes sense.

The last game I watched him in was the National Championship against Bama and he was a force. Again, guys that big (Davis, Ngata, Vea, etc.) are never going to rack up big-time sack numbers. Ngata never had more than 5.5 sacks; Vea never more than 4 sacks. However, what they can do is collapse the pocket and let the smaller guys eat.

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John813 said:

I just don't think there's that much value these days in just run pluggers, at least when talking about draft projections.

Vita and Ngata were two huge NT/1Ts that were not only a force in the run defense but also had traits/had real pass rush potential for their size.

Davis may be able to cog a gap, and that may be great vs a 49ers offense but most teams aren't run heavy based. Sure, vs the Packers you could pose a threat vs Jones/Dillon in the inside but Rodgers can beat a team by himself and on passing downs it's a 3 man rush with Davis in the lineup.

Davis to me seems like an ideal fit for a team running close to a traditional 3-4 and/or for a team that has opposing divisional teams with run heavy offenses. Like if the Bengals took him due to having to face the Ravens and Browns 4 times a year.

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CalPolyTechnique said:

I think Davis is so overrated he’s now underrated at this point, lol.

To me, he’s the classic back end of R1 guy that some playoff team ends up drafting, helps continue that team’s success, and then everyone is left asking “how in the world did Team X manage to get that guy?”

His impact on the game isn’t captured in the box score necessarily. His immense size/power commands a double team and he still is able to collapse the pocket allowing others to feast.

Davis is not my top target but if the board falls a certain way I wouldn’t be too upset if we took him.

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