Kellen Moore is overhyped

kramskoi · Jan 24, 2022

SSoup said:
I dunno.

He did coach us to a very high ranking offense. The fact that they ran out of steam by the end doesn't make me think he has no future or no business coaching an offense.

Mike Zimmer coached our defense in 2003 to a high ranking, but they "ran out of steam" or "got exposed" late in the season with several embarrassing performances where opposing offenses shredded his defense and he had no answers. It didn't magically make Zimmer a bad coach who had no business running a defense or who had no future in coaching. And when he left and ran a Bengals defense that was pretty good, our fanbase spent years wishing we could have him back. The good things he did in 2003 before the bad finish weren't smoke and mirrors or a fluke. I feel the same about Kellen.

At the end of the day, Kellen is still the coach who put together a brilliant plan to attack a Tampa defense fresh off carrying its team to a trophy. And the same coach who did things to Bill Belichick's defense that Bill Belichick defenses don't routinely allow anyone to do to them. He's got it in him.

I think he badly needs a change in OL coaches, since it was bad o-line play that doomed us.

I think he probably also needs more young, fresh position coaches he can bounce ideas off or get helpful feedback from. Joe Philbin is 60. Doug Nussmeier is 51. Adam Henry is 49. Skip Peete is 58. The team went out of their way to put a young mind in place as the coordinator, but then they panicked and decided they needed to mitigate that decision as much as possible. So they packed the staff with a bunch of tired old hacks to influence us as much as possible back towards familiar, old, safe, conservative ground. It's like we hired a bunch of hall monitors because we'd made up our minds before-the-fact that the kid was gonna try to run too fast.

Defenses rarely look "good" in the first week of the season. There has simply been too much made of this "almost" win against the Bucs. GB got beat 38 - 3 in the first game but the Saints would surely not beat them at the end of the year. As evidenced by Josh Allen's beat down...Belichick's defense isn't looking too great these days. 7 straight possessions yielded 7 TDs by Buffalo. Belichick looked old, slow and frankly lost.

In the Denver game the offense started having problems. The loss of Blake Jarwin was key. 12 personnel was the best thing for Prescott but after Jarwin went down things changed. Teams stopped blitzing Prescott and started playing more coverage. Against Cover 4/3 with four rushers the offense failed to adjust and things were made worse by Moore's inexplicable abandonment of the running game. He also runs too much from shotgun (S11)...the same dumb crap Garrett used to do when he was calling plays.

When it comes to Prescott, the Denver game (among others) was simply inexplicable. 102 yds and 1 INT with 5 1/2 minutes to play and ZERO points. But Prescott is good at padding his numbers in the fourth quarter, after going AWOL for the first three. He did it against the Chiefs, Raiders, Cardinals and finally the 49ers.Too many times we have watched this movie. He needs a coordinator that will take the ball out of his hands. That coordinator is NOT Kellen "air raid" Moore.

Miguelitomama · Jan 24, 2022

DallasDomination said:
I’m not sold on Kellen Moore; boy wonder. When he goes against a real coach he doesn’t adapt. The running game is a direct reflection of Kellen Moore, he has no idea how to scheme runs, he’s all about the passing game and when he gets figured out he doesn’t adjust.

I know everyone likes to blame Dak but that’s way off.. Dak isn’t going to run the offense like Manning, Brady or Rodgers, he’s a qb that needs a legit coach to scheme a game plan for him. He’s a solid qb not a freaking transcendent talent. So again it falls on the coach to do his damn job and come up with a game plan to win football games. The junk Kellen Moore was throwing out their against real competition was embarrassing.

Personally Kellen Moore can kick rocks, I’m not sold on him at all. I would much rather try and keep Dan Quinn. I mean he turned the worst defense we’ve had in years around in one off-season. You can see the coaching.

What’s the fascination with Kellen Moore?

Agreed. The Broncos finally figured out that the way to beat Dak and the offense is to stop blitzing in favor of heavy coverage in the secondary. It worked and every other team in the league used the same approach with success. It didn't help that the offensive line is weak. The difference between us and the 49ers is that the latter was able to establish a running game. Part of the failure falls on an offensive line that needs a complete overhaul and more discipline. The other part is that Moore didn't show different looks with the run. Just hand it to Zeke and send him up the middle -- to a stacked box. Ridiculous.

Kellen Moore is overhyped

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