Twitter: Is Dak Clutch?

5Stars · Jan 24, 2022

cityochamps said:
Yes, a slipping clutch like in my old 66 Chevelle that needed replaced so you can actually move forward.

lmao! Dude, that was good!

jwooten15 · Jan 24, 2022

Dak is as clutch as a prostitute is wholesome.

JBS · Jan 24, 2022

jwooten15 said:
Dak is as clutch as a prostitute is wholesome.

This isn’t a bad comp

Dak was pretty clutch his first day on the job, actually

DFWJC · Jan 24, 2022

Nexx said:
So some people will point out that Dak being clutch is one of his better traits. Well this might help dispel that notion.

13 games when the Cowboys had the ball with 2 minutes or less losing by 1 to 7 points.

1-12 in those games. Watching yesterdays games you need an offense and QB who can win games in the clutch with little to no time left in the playoffs. Dak isnt that QB.

That is incredibly telling.

Look, the odds ARE against you in that situation. You have to take every chance to win and if that means risking getting intercepted or actually losing the game without a fight, so be it.

But 1-12.....that's mind-boggling.

Redsfan_83 · Jan 24, 2022

Has any announcer anywhere talked about not giving Dak the ball, down 4 in the 4th qtr and with less than a minute. In all fairness, not many QB's can do what these two dudes did last night

visionary · Jan 24, 2022

Nexx said:
So some people will point out that Dak being clutch is one of his better traits. Well this might help dispel that notion.

13 games when the Cowboys had the ball with 2 minutes or less losing by 1 to 7 points.

1-12 in those games. Watching yesterdays games you need an offense and QB who can win games in the clutch with little to no time left in the playoffs. Dak isnt that QB.

nothing said “clutch” like consistent failure

5Stars · Jan 24, 2022

jwooten15 said:
Dak is as clutch as a prostitute is wholesome.

Come on guys, you are cracking me up...I'm trying to practice guitar! lmao

Denim Chicken · Jan 24, 2022

DFWJC said:
That is incredibly telling.

Look, the odds ARE against you in that situation. You have to take every chance to win and if that means risking getting intercepted or actually losing the game without a fight, so be it.

But 1-12.....that's mind-boggling.

How is it "incredibly telling" with nothing to compare it to?

There are also two games on there where he had 2 seconds or less on their own territory. I mean, what kind of superman shenagains are we expecting here? One was a missed FG so not sure you can put that on him either.

So call it 3-8. Still, obviously does not seem good, but I would imagine most teams don't have a great record under these filters.

IceStar-D7 · Jan 24, 2022

Is the owner clutch? Is the Organization clutch? Is the team as a whole clutch? Is Dak clutch? Straight across the board "NO_NO_NO_NO"

khiladi · Jan 24, 2022

I did a post on this awhile back. 2016 where he was a bus driver, with Zeke wearing defenses Dak’s, obfuscated this perception he was ‘clutch’.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/dak-prescott-clutch-4th-quarter-jerry-jones-cowboys-defense

To get a true sense of it, you can forget the traditional “fourth-quarter comeback” or “game-winning drive” metrics, which are far too liberal and credit a quarterback for scores anytime in the fourth quarter. You can also forget “one-score game” totals, which can be diluted because an offense will operate far differently if playing for a field goal rather than a touchdown.

A true “clutch” situation should be viewed as when a team is down 4-8 points late in a game, when they need a touchdown.

Here’s how Prescott has done as a passer when down 4-8 points in the final four minutes of games compared to the NFL average since he entered the league in 2016:

Passer rating: Prescott 70.6 vs. NFL avg 76.5

Yards per attempt: Prescott 5.9 vs. NFL avg 6.7

Touchdown rate: Prescott 2.8% vs. NFL avg 4.6%

Interception rate: Prescott 2.8% vs. NFL avg 3.7%

Sack rate: Prescott: 7.7% vs. NFL avg 5.3

That is… not good.

At a point in games when aggressiveness is more acceptable, the only thing Prescott does at an above-average rate is avoid interceptions (well, until the Seattle game). There’s something to be said for living to play another down, but Prescott hasn’t been able to translate his dropbacks into yards or touchdowns in the clutch at even the rate of a league-average passer.

Now, obviously anytime we filter down to specific situations like this one, we have to consider the small sample size — Prescott has only 78 career dropbacks in these situations — but you couldn’t blame Jones if he looks fondly on the days of Romo, who has a decisive edge over Prescott across the board in the clutch:

Passer rating: Romo 95.3 vs. Prescott 70.6

Yards per attempt: Romo 7.3 vs. Prescott 5.9

Touchdown rate: Romo 5.8% vs. Prescott 2.8%

Interception rate: Romo 2.2% vs. Prescott 2.8%

Sack rate: Romo 2.1% vs. Prescott 7.7%

As for Mahomes, his clutch numbers are on a whole other stratosphere…

Passer rating: Mahomes 122.6 vs. Prescott 70.6

Yards per attempt: Mahomes 8.9 vs. Prescott 5.9

Touchdown rate: Mahomes 8.8% vs. Prescott 2.8%

Interception rate: Mahomes 0.0% vs. Prescott 2.8%

Sack rate: Mahomes 1.7% vs. Prescott 7.7%

These were the stats and then he got injured. Notice a clear trend. He’s NEVER been a drop-back passer. He’s not even league average.

Rack · Jan 24, 2022

I was going to reply "yes" then I realized the op asked is he was "clutch" not a "crutch".

So no.

visionary · Jan 24, 2022

Denim Chicken said:

yeah, I had a discussion with Adam a few years ago on this board about the importance of the run game which he showed “statistically” was not important to winning in the NFL. After I questioned him a little he admitted that he was using data collected by someone else, he had no way of knowing the accuracy of the data, that the data was NOT based on context or matched by circumstances, and there was no correction for multiplicity and not a multivariate analysis (so had not been corrected for confounding factors). Yep, this is that guy now asking for “posting similar data” :lmao2:

he was just posting stuff not expecting others to know something about statistics LOL

Nexx · Jan 24, 2022

khiladi said:
I did a post on this awhile back. 2016 where he was a bus driver, with Zeke wearing defenses Dak’s, obfuscated this perception he was ‘clutch’.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/dak-prescott-clutch-4th-quarter-jerry-jones-cowboys-defense

These were the stats and then he got injured. Notice a clear trend. He’s NEVER been a drop-back passer. He’s not even league average.

screams bus driver at best to me.

5Stars · Jan 24, 2022

Rack said:
I was going to reply "yes" then I realized the op asked is he was "clutch" not a "crutch".

So no.

lmao...I need to go away. Well, he still has his two that he used.

KJJ · Jan 24, 2022

He brought us back from 20 points down last season against Atlanta in one of the greatest comebacks in the history of the organization. He was clutch in OT against New England this season. He’s had a number of clutch performances over his career but he didn’t play well the final half of this season and everybody is very down on him. Fans are refusing to acknowledge any of the good games he’s had. Some are acting like he’s never played a good game. Someone posted that he’s sucked ever since the day he arrived in Dallas in 2016. This is one pissed off fan base. Lol

CowboyRoy · Jan 24, 2022

khiladi said:
That’s why 2020 stats were a joke in the five games he played. His stans said Dak didn’t have enough time, but his QBR rating was like 50 QBR with a whopping upper 4 Yards per completion, and 0 TDs and 1 INT. It was all garbage stats with defenses playing the clock.

JBS said:
Wilson dropped pass lololol. Was the zeke pass the flip on the scramble?? If so that’s a joke too

Wilson stumbled and the pass bounced right off his hands. Dak gave him a great chance to make a play and he blew it. Zeke is simply too slow and lacks receiving skills, but the pass bounced right off his hand. Dak lead him perfectly.

khiladi · Jan 24, 2022

Nexx said:
screams bus driver at best to me.

Deleted the original post and updated here with some new information, including Andy Dalton last year.

I did a post on this awhile back. 2016 where he was a bus driver, with Zeke wearing defenses Dak’s, obfuscated this perception he was ‘clutch’. Also, like the below article demonstrates, a lot of this ‘clutch’ narrative was because of the “going into the fourth quarter” lead stat, meaning of an opponent was even up by 1, going into the fourth, that’s how clutch was defined for Dak,

As I said in other posts, as far as last year, even Andy Dalton posted much better numbers than Dak in the more accurate definition of clutch. As far as relative to the Rest of the NFL through his career, Dak isn’t even NFL league average as a passer as far as “clutch” is concerned.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/dak-prescott-clutch-4th-quarter-jerry-jones-cowboys-defense

To get a true sense of it, you can forget the traditional “fourth-quarter comeback” or “game-winning drive” metrics, which are far too liberal and credit a quarterback for scores anytime in the fourth quarter. You can also forget “one-score game” totals, which can be diluted because an offense will operate far differently if playing for a field goal rather than a touchdown.

A true “clutch” situation should be viewed as when a team is down 4-8 points late in a game, when they need a touchdown.

Here’s how Prescott has done as a passer when down 4-8 points in the final four minutes of games compared to the NFL average since he entered the league in 2016:

Passer rating: Prescott 70.6 vs. NFL avg 76.5

Yards per attempt: Prescott 5.9 vs. NFL avg 6.7

Touchdown rate: Prescott 2.8% vs. NFL avg 4.6%

Interception rate: Prescott 2.8% vs. NFL avg 3.7%

Sack rate: Prescott: 7.7% vs. NFL avg 5.3

That is… not good.

At a point in games when aggressiveness is more acceptable, the only thing Prescott does at an above-average rate is avoid interceptions (well, until the Seattle game). There’s something to be said for living to play another down, but Prescott hasn’t been able to translate his dropbacks into yards or touchdowns in the clutch at even the rate of a league-average passer.

Now, obviously anytime we filter down to specific situations like this one, we have to consider the small sample size — Prescott has only 78 career dropbacks in these situations — but you couldn’t blame Jones if he looks fondly on the days of Romo, who has a decisive edge over Prescott across the board in the clutch:

Passer rating: Romo 95.3 vs. Prescott 70.6

Yards per attempt: Romo 7.3 vs. Prescott 5.9

Touchdown rate: Romo 5.8% vs. Prescott 2.8%

Interception rate: Romo 2.2% vs. Prescott 2.8%

Sack rate: Romo 2.1% vs. Prescott 7.7%

As for Mahomes, his clutch numbers are on a whole other stratosphere…

Passer rating: Mahomes 122.6 vs. Prescott 70.6

Yards per attempt: Mahomes 8.9 vs. Prescott 5.9

Touchdown rate: Mahomes 8.8% vs. Prescott 2.8%

Interception rate: Mahomes 0.0% vs. Prescott 2.8%

Sack rate: Mahomes 1.7% vs. Prescott 7.7%

These were the stats and then he got injured. Notice a clear trend. He’s NEVER been a drop-back passer. He’s not even league average let alone Mahomes, or even Romo.

khiladi · Jan 24, 2022

visionary said:
yeah, I had a discussion with Adam a few years ago on this board about the importance of the run game which he showed “statistically” was not important to winning in the NFL. After I questioned him a little he admitted that he was using data collected by someone else, he had no way of knowing the accuracy of the data, that the data was NOT based on context or matched by circumstances, and there was no correction for multiplicity and not a multivariate analysis (so had not been corrected for confounding factors). Yep, this is that guy now asking for “posting similar data”

he was just posting stuff not expecting others to know something about statistics LOL

He also spent a considerable amount of time telling us Roy Williams was not a washed safety. And then RW got cut or traded to the Bengals.

Section446 · Jan 24, 2022

Haha... no...

Denim Chicken · Jan 24, 2022

visionary said:
yeah, I had a discussion with Adam a few years ago on this board about the importance of the run game which he showed “statistically” was not important to winning in the NFL. After I questioned him a little he admitted that he was using data collected by someone else, he had no way of knowing the accuracy of the data, that the data was NOT based on context or matched by circumstances, and there was no correction for multiplicity and not a multivariate analysis (so had not been corrected for confounding factors). Yep, this is that guy now asking for “posting similar data”

he was just posting stuff not expecting others to know something about statistics LOL

He's not wrong, though.

Obviously :01 on the clock at your own 15 is not similar. Look at the numbers Bobby pulled.

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