Re-signing Randy Gregory will be yet another FA mistake by the Front-Office

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Re-signing this guy to a market value contract will be a huge mistake. Dude is too inconsistent, commits boneheaded penalties, and is totally unreliable.

Unless he wants to come back for the minimum, move on. Giving him a big contract would be along the lines of the Jaylon Smith, Demarcus Lawerence, and Nolan Caroll.

Dude has been in the league for 7 years and has 16.5 sacks (yes i know he has missed some seasons). Id much rather give whatever he is slated to make to Von Miller, but we know this FO doesnt believe in bringing in high priced FAs, just to turn around and overpay our overrated players.


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WillieBeamen said:
Re-signing this guy to a market value contract will be a huge mistake. Dude is too inconsistent, commits boneheaded penalties, and is totally unreliable.

Unless he wants to come back for the minimum, move on. Giving him a big contract would be along the lines of the Jaylon Smith, Demarcus Lawerence, and Nolan Caroll.

Dude has been in the league for 7 years and has 16.5 sacks (yes i know he has missed some seasons). Id much rather give whatever he is slated to make to Von Miller, but we know this FO doesnt believe in bringing in high priced FAs, just to turn around and overpay our overrated players.


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we can resign him, but not over pay. anything more than 8-10M per year is too much
 
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To me it is nothing personal about Gregory because he did play well at times this year.

Instead it is more about experience of paying defensive players that did not work out or live up to their contract.

As much as we would like to have great players at every position, this is one of those situations where it is time to move on if Gregory gets high offers from other teams.
 
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WillieBeamen said:
Re-signing this guy to a market value contract will be a huge mistake. Dude is too inconsistent, commits boneheaded penalties, and is totally unreliable.

Unless he wants to come back for the minimum, move on. Giving him a big contract would be along the lines of the Jaylon Smith, Demarcus Lawerence, and Nolan Caroll.

Dude has been in the league for 7 years and has 16.5 sacks (yes i know he has missed some seasons). Id much rather give whatever he is slated to make to Von Miller, but we know this FO doesnt believe in bringing in high priced FAs, just to turn around and overpay our overrated players.


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If Randy will accept a team friendly deal, then why not? The guy sucks against the run but would be a valuable situational pass rusher and every team needs those guys.

The bigger issue is DLAW who is still a good player but we can't take his 27M cap hit next year. We have to cut him or resign him.
 
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CowboysFaninHouston said:
we can resign him, but not over pay. anything more than 8-10M per year is too much
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Then you're letting him walk. I'm ok with that, but there are a lot of teams with a ton of cap and GMs are infatuated with the splash plays Gregory gives you every other game. He'll get at least 12M, probably 15.
 

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8-10M a year for him is insane. Pass
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average......and that would put him in the 20-25 range for defensive ends...

perhaps even less than that, but that's the range these days, when Lawrence gets paid 20M.....

he is decent DE. can rush the passer. athletic.....his penalties are concerning so he needs to be coached better. I rather not go into the draft needing two DEs given I am advocating to cut Lawrence and save on the cap.

the rest of the guys on the team are pure JAGs
 
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WillieBeamen said:
Re-signing this guy to a market value contract will be a huge mistake. Dude is too inconsistent, commits boneheaded penalties, and is totally unreliable.

Unless he wants to come back for the minimum, move on. Giving him a big contract would be along the lines of the Jaylon Smith, Demarcus Lawerence, and Nolan Caroll.

Dude has been in the league for 7 years and has 16.5 sacks (yes i know he has missed some seasons). Id much rather give whatever he is slated to make to Von Miller, but we know this FO doesnt believe in bringing in high priced FAs, just to turn around and overpay our overrated players.


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I’m on board with resigning him, just not a market based contract. At least not one with huge guarantees. Something like an incentive laden deal that allows him to earn the same, but protects the team from an iff the field problem is reasonable.

Personally, I like Gregory. He conducts himself well in interviews and us well spoken. It seems he’s matured dramatically since he was drafted. I think the risk is low for Gregory to be a problem iff the field, but there is history and so the Cowboys have to protect themselves.

But Gregory is one of Hog Jowls pet projects so he’ll probably get a D Law type contract so he can boast about how he is a football savant because of drafting and sticking by Gregory.
 
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WillieBeamen said:
Re-signing this guy to a market value contract will be a huge mistake. Dude is too inconsistent, commits boneheaded penalties, and is totally unreliable.

Unless he wants to come back for the minimum, move on. Giving him a big contract would be along the lines of the Jaylon Smith, Demarcus Lawerence, and Nolan Caroll.

Dude has been in the league for 7 years and has 16.5 sacks (yes i know he has missed some seasons). Id much rather give whatever he is slated to make to Von Miller, but we know this FO doesnt believe in bringing in high priced FAs, just to turn around and overpay our overrated players.


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There is nothing great about our def line and that includes Gregory.
Most average at best unless they're playing Heinicke or Glennon....
 
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WillieBeamen said:
Re-signing this guy to a market value contract will be a huge mistake. Dude is too inconsistent, commits boneheaded penalties, and is totally unreliable.

Unless he wants to come back for the minimum, move on. Giving him a big contract would be along the lines of the Jaylon Smith, Demarcus Lawerence, and Nolan Caroll.

Dude has been in the league for 7 years and has 16.5 sacks (yes i know he has missed some seasons). Id much rather give whatever he is slated to make to Von Miller, but we know this FO doesnt believe in bringing in high priced FAs, just to turn around and overpay our overrated players.


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I like the player a lot and hope we can keep him.

But it really comes down to money, and I think he gets offers above and beyond what we ought to pay him.

I'd be VERY careful about giving him a ton of guaranteed money.

Which actually reminds me....its all about structure.

If they give him like 5 years for 60 million it means nothing if the guarantee isn't there and he could be gone at any second with little cap hit.

If anything I'd probably try to give him incentive by dangling a high non guaranteed salary at him. Maybe stat based.

A highly motivated Gregory isn't a bad thing to have.

But....difficult to do when other teams are offering more of a guarantee.
 
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Disagree. 4 Diggs interceptions were because of Randy Gregory. The man is a menace & dual threat at DE (can rush the passer and stop the run), and those are hard to find. If you think Randy Gregory isn’t worth 8-10m idk what to tell you but that’s a steal. The 3 players that must be retained are Gregory, Kearse, and Anger.. all assuming the price is right. I have a feeling RG94 is going to get an offer well over 8-10m.

Robert Quinn got a 5yr/70m contract (14m a year on average) and he just flat out sucks vs the run & is the most inconsistent human being I’ve ever seen play football; for example he had 2 sacks last year and 18.5 this year. Randy Gregory is a better overall player than Quinn. He’ll get an offer from a team around 12-13m a year without a doubt in my mind. You can go watch film on these 2 players and see the difference right away.
 
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Someone else will pay him big money. We all thought Robert Quinn wasn’t leaving and bam Chicago paid him a fortune. At least he backed it up as he had 18 sacks this year
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My thought as well. He got 14mil AAV after playing here. Randy may not have the sacks to back up that type of commitment but he'll still get some offers from pass rush needy teams with cap to burn imo.
 
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