Re-signing Randy Gregory will be yet another FA mistake by the Front-Office

starfan1 · Jan 25, 2022

Im ready for him to move on let someone else pay for him

Rayman70 · Jan 25, 2022

Doomsday101 said:
I'm sorry i think that makes us weaker not stronger. I think the big mistake is losing both DE and pretending like they mean nothing. I don't buy it.

We will be fine. Cant sign em all.

conner01 · Jan 25, 2022

WillieBeamen said:
Re-signing this guy to a market value contract will be a huge mistake. Dude is too inconsistent, commits boneheaded penalties, and is totally unreliable.

Unless he wants to come back for the minimum, move on. Giving him a big contract would be along the lines of the Jaylon Smith, Demarcus Lawerence, and Nolan Caroll.

Dude has been in the league for 7 years and has 16.5 sacks (yes i know he has missed some seasons). Id much rather give whatever he is slated to make to Von Miller, but we know this FO doesnt believe in bringing in high priced FAs, just to turn around and overpay our overrated players.

Move on

What do you think is a deal you would see as worth doing?
He obviously is a very disruptive player
I don’t think anyone wants to pay him top pass rush money but at some price he is certainly worth keeping

conner01 · Jan 25, 2022

Aven8 said:
Someone else will pay him big money. We all thought Robert Quinn wasn’t leaving and bam Chicago paid him a fortune. At least he backed it up as he had 18 sacks this year

I was shocked at what Quinn got
I was shocked at his season too
Obviously worth the money but that is a rare case
Someone will pay Gregory
Next season we will know if they actually over paid or not
I’d like to keep him because I value his game more than just sack totals
But for many reasons I wouldn’t pay him what he is likely to get

AshyLarry06 · Jan 25, 2022

atlantacowboy said:
If Randy will accept a team friendly deal, then why not? The guy sucks against the run but would be a valuable situational pass rusher and every team needs those guys.

The bigger issue is DLAW who is still a good player but we can't take his 27M cap hit next year. We have to cut him or resign him.

Not sure if my facts are accurate, but I was listening to Cavanaugh yesterday and he made it seem like cutting D-Law wouldn't really save the team anything. The best way to utilize D-Law and that awful contract is to try and restructure, but cutting him wouldn't really make sense. It isn't a great situation, but it could def be worse (see: Elliot, Ezekiel). At least D-Law is still a good-to-great D-Lineman when healthy. Can't really say the same for Zeke anymore and it makes me sad as heyll to say that

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Doomsday101 · Jan 25, 2022

Rayman70 said:
We will be fine. Cant sign em all.

No you can't, so you pick and choose, I don't see losing both starting DE as a legit option. Gregory he ranks 11th among EDGE’s with 100 or more snaps in PFF grade and 11th among all players with 100 or more pass rushing snaps in pressure rate. He is also tied for 29th in both sacks and pressures despite missing four weeks with a calf strain. Now that he’s back healthy, Gregory can continue adding to his resume as one of the most underpaid players in the NFL this season.

I know for many the loss in post season stings but losing both DE and expecting Parson to excel without good help on the other end I think is a mistake, teams will look to take Parson out and not worry about they other side as much. To me Basham is not a quality starter. Just my view

mardwin · Jan 25, 2022

CowboysFaninHouston said:
we can resign him, but not over pay. anything more than 8-10M per year is too much

he's about 5M - 7M defensive end with a lot of baggage. If they are cutting Tank (which they should), they have to resign Gregory.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 25, 2022

I'm not as concerned with these contracts because the Cowboys and the NFL have shown you can sign a guy and get from out in front of it. Can Gregory play right now? Do you expect him to play at a high level for the next 3 years? If the answer is yes then you resign him.

CWR · Jan 25, 2022

quickccc said:
Huh ? ... Nolan Carroll ?

Yeah, no he's much better than Nolan Carroll. Carroll also wasn't a significant cap hit.

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Jan 25, 2022

stilltheguru said:
I said if he didn't make a dent in Trent Williams I was done with him. We saw what happened. Goodbye

LOl

OmerV · Jan 25, 2022

WillieBeamen said:
Re-signing this guy to a market value contract will be a huge mistake. Dude is too inconsistent, commits boneheaded penalties, and is totally unreliable.

Unless he wants to come back for the minimum, move on. Giving him a big contract would be along the lines of the Jaylon Smith, Demarcus Lawerence, and Nolan Caroll.

Dude has been in the league for 7 years and has 16.5 sacks (yes i know he has missed some seasons). Id much rather give whatever he is slated to make to Von Miller, but we know this FO doesnt believe in bringing in high priced FAs, just to turn around and overpay our overrated players.

Move on

I'm not sure his market value is that great, but I agree they should move on. They have held on long enough.

aikemirv · Jan 25, 2022

CowboysFaninHouston said:
average......and that would put him in the 20-25 range for defensive ends...

perhaps even less than that, but that's the range these days, when Lawrence gets paid 20M.....

he is decent DE. can rush the passer. athletic.....his penalties are concerning so he needs to be coached better. I rather not go into the draft needing two DEs given I am advocating to cut Lawrence and save on the cap.

the rest of the guys on the team are pure JAGs

With the 8 million you save on cutting Lawrence who are you replacing him with for that 8 million. I am not a big fan of Lawrence at all but he is worth at least 8 million for a DE. 2023 year is the year I would cut bait from a cap perspective. Like I have said before, I would cut Lawrence if players are following him over Parsons. Parsons should be the leader of this group. Demarcus is a leader of Hotboyz!

kskboys · Jan 25, 2022

rocyaice said:
I'm not as concerned with these contracts because the Cowboys and the NFL have shown you can sign a guy and get from out in front of it. Can Gregory play right now? Do you expect him to play at a high level for the next 3 years? If the answer is yes then you resign him.

As long as losing in the first round of the playoffs is your goal, sure.

mahoneybill · Jan 25, 2022

JustChip said:
Or they restructure D Law and use the money to keep Gregory and don’t lose either starting DE.

Makes more sense. Get him to committ less penalties and he’s worth it.

aikemirv · Jan 25, 2022

tyke1doe said:
If we can get him on the cheap, re-sign him. But I've soured on him after his bonehead penalty against the 49ers. That was simply a horrible penalty to make. It's equivalent to deliberately kicking an MMA opponent in the family during a match. That play negated a fourth-down stop and likely would have given the Cowboys more time in their failed comeback attempt.

More than that, there's a culture here that has engulfed these players. We need to clear our roster of comfortable, cupcake players. We need to replace them with guys with the fire of Micah Parsons.

So, as much as I've supported RG, if he leaves, I won't be hurt.

Can't like this post enough.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 25, 2022

kskboys said:
As long as losing in the first round of the playoffs is your goal, sure.

How are you correlating the two? What on earth does that have to do with losing in the 1st round of the playoffs lol?

Cowboyny · Jan 25, 2022

WillieBeamen said:
Re-signing this guy to a market value contract will be a huge mistake. Dude is too inconsistent, commits boneheaded penalties, and is totally unreliable.

Unless he wants to come back for the minimum, move on. Giving him a big contract would be along the lines of the Jaylon Smith, Demarcus Lawerence, and Nolan Caroll.

Dude has been in the league for 7 years and has 16.5 sacks (yes i know he has missed some seasons). Id much rather give whatever he is slated to make to Von Miller, but we know this FO doesnt believe in bringing in high priced FAs, just to turn around and overpay our overrated players.

Move on

Pass rushers don't grow on trees. Gregory will not be suspended moving forward for his drug use and has 10 plus sack potential. Yes, he had a poor game against the 49ers, but he had some tremendous games throughout the yr as well. If you don't resign him, who are you replacing him with? Don't say Parsons cause he is the only LB we have under contract and still will be playing the position.

ChronicCowboy · Jan 25, 2022

I totally agree. Randy hasn’t been a reliable guy and giving him a financial commitment would be a large risk.

Denim Chicken · Jan 25, 2022

mardwin said:
he's about 5M - 7M defensive end with a lot of baggage. If they are cutting Tank (which they should), they have to resign Gregory.

His comps are about $13.5M per year.

That is what it will likely take.

mardwin · Jan 25, 2022

Denim Chicken said:
His comps are about $13.5M per year.

That is what it will likely take.

In that case, we just move on. He's not a $14M per year DE.

Re-signing Randy Gregory will be yet another FA mistake by the Front-Office

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