Twitter: Dez Gives Advice to Dak

MountaineerCowboy said:

Dak or Allen?

Who would you take if you could have your pick.

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Allen..I have said its time for Dak to go....Not because I think he is not good but because In this clown show once you have failed a couple times it never seems to get better for the QB or other "Stars" on the team...Allen looked awsome in the game but still lost was all i was pointing out..QB's in fact can not win the big one by themseleves in this league.

Vtwin said:

Agree completely with the exception of the Rams loss being entirely on the run defense. We seem to ignore the fact that the offense, after scoring on the opening drive, punted 4 straight times the rest of the half and again on their first drive of the second half. Typical Dak game. Stunk the place out through much of the first three quarters and gave us another almost comeback.

In Romo's 2012 'win and your in' game against the football team, the defense gave up 274 yards rushing. I don't remember that being used in defense of Romo like it is is for Dak's Rams loss.

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True and fair points. Tbh I was trying to cut Prescott some slack to avoid being seen as biased and a hater but yes your points are very valid.

CowboyFrog said:

Allen..I have said its time for Dak to go....Not because I think he is not good but because In this clown show once you have failed a couple times it never seems to get better for the QB or other "Stars" on the team...Allen looked awsome in the game but still lost was all i was pointing out..QB's in fact can not win the big one by themseleves in this league.

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Nobody wins by themselves, but as the QB you have the biggest impact on the outcome of games. That's why they get paid the big bucks to deliver.

MountaineerCowboy said:

Nobody wins by themselves, but as the QB you have the biggest impact on the outcome of games. That's why they get paid the big bucks to deliver.

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Hey man this is your fantasy, get any QB you like and lets see them win with this owner..I'm down.

CowboyFrog said:

Allen..I have said its time for Dak to go....Not because I think he is not good but because In this clown show once you have failed a couple times it never seems to get better for the QB or other "Stars" on the team...Allen looked awsome in the game but still lost was all i was pointing out..QB's in fact can not win the big one by themseleves in this league.

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Prescott hasn't played like Allen did vs the Chiefs in any of his play off games.

Everyone understands that it's a team game but Prescott hasn't had a game whereby he made amazing plays yet was let down by other players' execution. Further, he's paid like an elite QB to make up for deficiencies on a team. Mahomes and Allen did so against the opposing defense with Allen losing in OT not having touched the ball. What more was he supposed to have done in regulation...

If the 49ers win the SB then if the Cowboys can build an elite D then perhaps they might be able to get it done with Prescott and that would be the blue print to follow with a limited QB. However, I highly doubt that they will be able to keep up with the offensive scoring of both the Rams and Chiefs.

Swagger said:

Prescott hasn't played like Allen did vs the Chiefs in any of his play off games.

Everyone understands that it's a team game but Prescott hasn't had a game whereby he made amazing plays yet was let down by other players' execution. Further, he's paid like an elite QB to make up for deficiencies on a team. Mahomes and Allen did so against the opposing defense with Allen losing in OT not having touched the ball. What more was he supposed to have done in regulation...

If the 49ers win the SB then if the Cowboys can build an elite D then perhaps they might be able to get it done with Prescott and that would be the blue print to follow with a limited QB. However, I highly doubt that they will be able to keep up with the offensive scoring of both the Rams and Chiefs.

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Again, I'm down, get whatever QB you like (Probably not getting Allen) and lets see. Anything that ends with winning starts with "Jerry needs to change" and thats not happening..

CowboyFrog said:

Hey man this is your fantasy, get any QB you like and lets see them win with this owner..I'm down.

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There's plenty of QBs that could win here.

But when you put all your resources and cap space into undrafted/4th round QBs this is what you get. They will always revert back to who they really are.

The only "real" QBs we've had since Aikman (1st round talent) has been Romo (undrafted talent) and Dak (4th round talent).

I can't say that "no QB can win with Jerry being the owner" until I see a real QB talent get the chance.

MountaineerCowboy said:

There's plenty of QBs that could win here.

But when you put all your resources and cap space into undrafted/4th round QBs this is what you get. They will always revert back to who they really are.

The only "real" QBs we've had since Aikman (1st round talent) has been Romo (undrafted talent) and Dak (4th round talent).

I can't say that "no QB can win with Jerry being the owner" until I see a real QB talent get the chance.

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Lol who is getting this "Real QB with Talent" and what makes him that...a SB, again tell me without using Madden like stuff, how you will aquire a "Real QB with Talent"...You drafting him , trading for him...again for a realist you sure ignore the last 26 years for some reason. Anything that wins here starts with "Jerry needs to ..." and if you have faith in that, your worse off than anyone here.

Will is secretly running this thing..thats another good one.

CowboyFrog said:

Lol who is getting this "Real QB with Talent" and what makes him that...a SB, again tell me without using Madden like stuff, how you will aquire a "Real QB with Talent"...You drafting him , trading for him...again for a realist you sure ignore the last 26 years for some reason. Anything that wins here starts with "Jerry needs to ..." and if you have faith in that, your worse off than anyone here.

Will is secretly running this thing..thats another good one.

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I have no faith in Jerry. If anything happens it will be because of pure luck, and not anything thing Jerry saw as "the right move".

But to say no QB can win with Jerry as the owner is just foolish when we watched Aikman lead us to 3 Super Bowl wins.

If you don't think Jerry could luck into a talented QB just like he did Aikman if he'd just draft one in the first round then you're also crazy.

MountaineerCowboy said:

I have no faith in Jerry. If anything happens it will be because of pure luck, and not anything thing Jerry saw as "the right move".

But to say no QB can win with Jerry as the owner is just foolish when we watched Aikman lead us to 3 Super Bowl wins.

If you don't think Jerry could luck into a talented QB just like he did Aikman if he'd just draft one in the first round then you're also crazy.

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The only foolish thing here is thinking this Franchise is run anything like it was when we won those...Aikman himself has spelled that out for everyone for years, Our problem is Jerry doesnt like the way he won those SB....thats the issue, he has now spent a qaurter century trying to disprove his own success....

MountaineerCowboy said:

There's plenty of QBs that could win here.

But when you put all your resources and cap space into undrafted/4th round QBs this is what you get. They will always revert back to who they really are.

The only "real" QBs we've had since Aikman (1st round talent) has been Romo (undrafted talent) and Dak (4th round talent).

I can't say that "no QB can win with Jerry being the owner" until I see a real QB talent get the chance.

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And is that "real QB talent" just falling off trees somewhere? You are so obsessed with Josh Allen but where is there another Josh Allen? Buffalo spent the better part of two decades trying to find a QB and went 16 straight years without a playoff appearance. Along the way they wasted two first-round picks on quarterbacks that set the franchise back several years each time.

So sure, you could move on from Dak, but let's not act like it's so easy for any front office - especially this one - to just stumble forward into getting another Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. There's only two of those guys in the league. You can waste literally decades of your existence trying to draft a QB as good as Dak, much less Allen or Mahomes.

CowboyFrog said:

The only foolish thing here is thinking this Franchise is run anything like it was when we won those...Aikman himself has spelled that out for everyone for years, Our problem is Jerry doesnt like the way he won those SB....thats the issue, he has now spent a qaurter century trying to disprove his own success....

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I get it.

Here's where I have my problem with Jerry and I know that nothing is going to change who he is. He will lie and say "I'll do whatever it takes" when we all know that's BS.

How many Rodgers, Stafford, Allen, Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow types are you going to find past the 1st round? If Jerry is serious about "doing whatever it takes" then within the next 3 years he will take a chance and draft a legit 1st round talent at QB. If we're towards the end of Dak's contract and we don't have a guy ready to take over then abandon all hope ye who enter here.

DOUBLE WING said:

And is that "real QB talent" just falling off trees somewhere? You are so obsessed with Josh Allen but where is there another Josh Allen? Buffalo spent the better part of two decades trying to find a QB and went 16 straight years without a playoff appearance. Along the way they wasted two first-round picks on quarterbacks that set the franchise back several years each time.

So sure, you could move on from Dak, but let's not act like it's so easy for any front office - especially this one - to just stumble forward into getting another Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. There's only two of those guys in the league. You can waste literally decades of your existence trying to draft a QB as good as Dak, much less Allen or Mahomes.

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You're not going to find a Rodgers, Stafford, Allen, Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow type after the 1st round. Those guys are 1st round picks for a reason.

Buffalo did all of that you mentioned above and now they have a real QB that already has took his team further than the Cowboys have been in a quarter of the century.

Joe Burrow always has the Bengals further than the Cowboys have been in a quarter of century.

The Cheifs had a good QB in Alex Smith. The Dak clone basically. They knew it wasn't enough. Took Mahomes, let him sit a year, and now look at em.

If you don't try you're going to get left behind just like the Cowboys have been.

MountaineerCowboy said:

I get it.

Here's where I have my problem with Jerry and I know that nothing is going to change who he is. He will lie and say "I'll do whatever it takes" when we all know that's BS.

How many Rodgers, Stafford, Allen, Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow types are you going to find past the 1st round? If Jerry is serious about "doing whatever it takes" then within the next 3 years he will take a chance and draft a legit 1st round talent at QB. If we're towards the end of Dak's contract and we don't have a guy ready to take over then abandon all hope ye who enter here.

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Bro he is a lier for sure..look at it this way he has said for years he would wright any check yet..he spends 4 mill on the HC job for the Dallas Cowboys..Biggest sports franchise in the world and if you could record Jerry without him knowing he would without a doubt say "Coaches are not needed, they just need to do what i say" and he shows it by who he hires and what he pays them. So again..anything that ends with "SB win" begins with "Jerry needs to change" thats not happening.

Really Dez?! You tossed Romo under the bus so many times during your tenure with him & now your loving him. Dig this Dez. The offensive line looked like it was in peak form in the first half of the season, but that all came crumbling down in the second half of the year.

Through the first nine games of the year, the Cowboys were averaging 4.6 yards per carry, & Dak was getting sacked once every 30 drop backs. In the final nine games of the year (including the playoffs) the Cowboys’ yards per rushing attempt dipped to 4.2, & Dak was getting sacked almost twice as often (once every 16 drop backs).

daboyzruleperiod said:

Really Dez?! You tossed Romo under the bus so many times during your tenure with him & now your loving him. Dig this Dez. The offensive line looked like it was in peak form in the first half of the season, but that all came crumbling down in the second half of the year.

Through the first nine games of the year, the Cowboys were averaging 4.6 yards per carry, & Dak was getting sacked once every 30 drop backs. In the final nine games of the year (including the playoffs) the Cowboys’ yards per rushing attempt dipped to 4.2, & Dak was getting sacked almost twice as often (once every 16 drop backs).

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This is all on Dak..right? try and follow along with how this works....when we play good its the OC, O-line and WR...when they play bad its just Dak. We had 14 accepted penalties in a playoff game left well over 100 yards on the field, nothing in that says playoff win.

Dez is the unofficial spokesperson of Cowboyszone. He echoes everything we’ve been saying.

CT Dal Fan said:

Over/under on this going on 50 pages.

Dak haters, attack!!!!

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that made my morning!

MountaineerCowboy said:

You're not going to find a Rodgers, Stafford, Allen, Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow type after the 1st round. Those guys are 1st round picks for a reason.

Buffalo did all of that you mentioned above and now they have a real QB that already has took his team further than the Cowboys have been in a quarter of the century.

Joe Burrow always has the Bengals further than the Cowboys have been in a quarter of century.

The Cheifs had a good QB in Alex Smith. The Dak clone basically. They knew it wasn't enough. Took Mahomes, let him sit a year, and now look at em.

If you don't try you're going to get left behind just like the Cowboys have been.

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The irony of you bringing up Alex Smith is that he was the first overall pick in the draft. And you call him a clone of the guy we drafted in the 4th. So again, it's an inexact science.

And I'm not saying you shouldn't try. Surely, if you're in that position and a potential franchise QB is staring you in the face, draft him. But just the act itself of drafting a first-round QB isn't enough. Getting a guy like Mahomes or Allen is a perfect accumulation of events that includes being bad in the right year, having the right draft pick, and having other teams pass on him (like the Bears/Mahomes). You can easily do what Buffalo themselves did and waste decades of your franchise drafting guys like EJ Manuel and JP Losman in the first round. And either way, when has Dallas been in that position in the last decade? The one time the team was truly targeting a first-round QB, the Broncos jumped in and saved Jerry from himself by taking Paxton Lynch.

By the way - what has Herbert done to be included in that list? I'm apparently supposed to be jealous of Joe Burrow because he has the Bengals in the AFC Championship game. OK, fine. But Herbert is two years in and hasn't made the playoffs. Will the Chargers even make the playoffs before they have to pay him a monster contract in a couple of years?

Blake said:

Dez is the unofficial spokesperson of Cowboyszone. He echoes everything we’ve been saying.

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That should scare the hell out of people, but here we are.