Is Dak’s accuracy related to too much muscle?

TequilaCowboy · Jan 26, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Really?

He seems more out of shape and less athletic now.

And slower, and less pocket presence. Hesitant to run for the easy yards the defense is giving him. He's got to take those.

SteveTheCowboy · Jan 26, 2022

ConstantReboot said:
Why do people want to always reference Troy Aikman and comparing him to Dak?

Troy was blessed with a talented oline that can protect him, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin and a good defense.

Dak has no running game, Zeke has not been a factor, his oline can't protect him, and the defense in the beginning of the year wasn't that good.

Troy Aikman was a great QB. But he was blessed with a ton of talent and a very good team. And most of the time he just handed the ball off to Emmitt Smith.

That all well and good. But that doesn't mean there isn't something...off...with Dak.

He had Brown FREE AND CLEAR on Thanksgiving Day and threw it behind in the dirt. Could not sync to Brown moving toward the sideline like he's supposed to do,. If you think there aren't other examples of mysterious misses you are just kidding yourself.

No...I don;t expect him to hit every single target. But there are some throws I DO expect the hits.

mattjames2010 · Jan 26, 2022

CowboysFaninHouston said:
new england? that was bad? and you said tampa was his best performance? so not Giants or New england games?

and now you are changing the premise of the argument...what I said was that earlier in the year, the first 6 games he was playing at a very high level and was in the MVP discussions....but now you are saying that wasn't who is based on the last 10 games....after the fact...... looking into your crystal ball.

facts are that earlier in the year he was playing at a very high level, you want to say Tampa doesn't count, new england wasn't good early on, but forget about carolina as they ended up bad...your logic is all over the place and you multiple times have contradicted yourself.

and almost all of them played good teams, played bad teams in their first 6 or 7 games.... you play who you have on your schedule and you play crappy teams!? then you beat them up and that's what you are supposed to do. can't diminish the performance.

and by no means am I comparing Dak to any of the QB listed below...so don't even go there, but

Rodgers....laid and egg his first game against the saints, beat detroit, three teams were good...we know washington was a farce...
Burrows played chicago, jacksonville, lions and vikings and they barely beat some of them
Brady played a bad NE team (early in the year as you said, a bad dolphins team and atlanta

and we can go on for all other QBs and it will be similar.

again, there is absolutely no denying that in the first 6 games Dak was playing at a very high level....he did pretty bad the last 9-10 games, but at that point, after new england game you had no idea and expectations were he would continue.

LOL yeah, beating up on the New York Giants and Eagles early in the season, what memorable moments. If only he could have beaten up on the Jags as well.

CowboysFaninHouston · Jan 26, 2022

SultanOfSix said:
This is the first I've heard of it. That's impressive, but I still find what Norv said far more impressive. Troy's accuracy is what made the timing offense of the 90s teams so hard to stop because the ball left his arm before the receiver got to his spot and was there where it was supposed to be just after he did.

troy was one of the most accurate QBs to ever play the game...he could hit anything he wanted to.....his scouting report put him as a can't miss prospect.

fansince68 · Jan 26, 2022

Yes, the muscle between his ears...

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Jan 26, 2022

5Stars said:
lol...oh, he's reading this with smoke coming out of his big ears!

LOL

5Stars · Jan 26, 2022

fansince68 said:
Yes, the muscle between his ears...

Yes, he is fragile mentally from coming back from his terrible injury. He seems scared to play to win, he might be on the field thinking what happened to him the last time he tried to win a game and someone broke his wheel?

Maybe the game Cooper Rush played and won his first game, and looked really good, scared his mind? Anyway, he's good to go...he has it made in the shade. lol.
JJ got sucked.

CowboysFaninHouston · Jan 26, 2022

mattjames2010 said:
LOL yeah, beating up on the New York Giants and Eagles early in the season, what memorable moments. If only he could have beaten up on the Jags as well.

Again... Here u go again.... Early in the season.

And I did say that when u play bad teams u are suppose to beat them up...that's what happened
So u mentioned again, early season Giants and Philly but dismissed Carolina that was 3-0 ....

Can I borrow your crystal ball please

Your logic is all over the place.... Suffice it to say you don't have any

mattjames2010 · Jan 26, 2022

CowboysFaninHouston said:
Again... Here u go again.... Early in the season.

And I did say that when u play bad teams u are suppose to beat them up...that's what happened
So u mentioned again, early season Giants and Philly but dismissed Carolina that was 3-0 ....

Can I borrow your crystal ball please

Your logic is all over the place.... Suffice it to say you don't have any

You should also consistently play well when you face good teams. Patriots were not a good team. So he had a good game against the Bucs. That makes him MVP early in the year?

You have low standards. That's on you. He wasn't MVP anything, he was a dude who beat up on a couple of bad teams. End of. He's not MVP now and he won't be next season. 6 game hero means nothing.

Raise your freakin' standards. 2 pages of a back and forth because he beat up the Giants and Eagles. Jesus Christ this fandom has hit rock bottom.

SpaceCowboy99 · Jan 26, 2022

Hawkeye19 said:
IMO… it’s not accuracy that is the issue. It’s Dak’s lack of anticipation that is more the problem.

Throws have to be “on schedule” in the NFL. We hear about QBs “throwing WRs open.” It’s because they throw to a spot and anticipate exactly where the WR will be on the field— and when he will be there.

I think Dak struggles with delivering the ball on time because he doesn’t trust what he is seeing fully. If he doesn’t see a guy “open” then he holds the ball—- vs throwing to a spot and trusting his guy will be there.

To the observer— it looks like Dak is not accurate because passes are “off target.” Yes— they are off target. But is it because Dak can’t place a ball where he wants it (physical talent issue) or because he is holding the ball and his timing/anticipation is off (awareness/mentality issue)?

I suppose it could be a bit of both— but to me, Dak hesitates too much and is off schedule with his WRs. If they aren’t exactly where they are supposed to be as route runners— then they obviously share some of the blame as well

This is an overly complicated explanation for he is just not accurate. I've seen him over and under throw guys standing still. We have all seen the video of him having that throw off competition against David Carr and not being able to hit anything.

RomoIsGod · Jan 26, 2022

He's not the worst QB in accuracy. Yah he misses some throws. They all do but yah, he could be more accurate.

Imagine if Troy played today in his prime in a wide open system. He would be about 75 percent every year in accuracy.

nightrain · Jan 26, 2022

Maybe it's time for a DP 4 Program.

Hawkeye19 · Jan 26, 2022

SpaceCowboy99 said:
This is an overly complicated explanation for he is just not accurate. I've seen him over and under throw guys standing still. We have all seen the video of him having that throw off competition against David Carr and not being able to hit anything.

Dak’s career completion percentage is 66.6%. David Carr’s is 59.7% and Troy Aikman (known for “being accurate”) had a career completion percentage of 61.5%.

Simply saying Dak is “inaccurate” is over-simplistic. He is completing passes at a higher rate than a lot of QBs…. But what we are concerned about are the plays he is NOT making, the location and timing of some of his throws etc…

And more to the point: why is he “off target”? And is there anything a coach can do about it?

America's Cowboy · Jan 26, 2022

mardwin said:
His weight is not an issue, he looks pretty in shape. He has never been the most accurate QB and has bad mechanics.

Yeah, that's why Dak has led the league (or been in top 10) in "tight window throws" with a completions % of 65 or higher and a passer rating of 96 or higher 3 out of his first 6 seasons.
:facepalm:

Dak can't hit the side of a barn. /sarc

America's Cowboy · Jan 26, 2022

Blake said:
I think his natural physique and genetics definitely play a role.

I play golf with athletes built like Dak who have excelled in fast twitch sports.
They'll often crush the ball every 1 out of 10 tries but have no grace or touch with their ball striking and follow through, and therefore can't hit the broad side of a barn. Also, they're wildly inconsistent and hardly reliable if on your team in a scramble.

I think it's similar with quarterbacks. Something I noticed about Allen and Mahomes, is they can zip it with just the right touch. Dak can only throw missiles.

Agree with the physique part 100% and the missile throws with no touch, but Dak has led all QBs (or been in top 10) with "tight window throws" 3 out of his first 6 seasons.

3rdEyewarrior · Jan 26, 2022

5Stars said:
I think Dak has been playing somewhat scared after his horrible injury, and when he came back from it he was good until the calf and shoulder strains, then he became fragile physically and mentally and talked a good game, "I'm a big Mutha....er" stuff to try and convince himself mentally.

Losing weight would increase flexibility and burst. The top top q bs don’t have a lot of muscle, manning, Brady, Rodgers.

buybuydandavis · Jan 26, 2022

3rdEyewarrior said:
He reminds me of mcnabb. Maybe he could pass from more angles with less weight. I also think cooper needs to drop 10 pounds.

Seriously injure your foot and it throws off your drive when you throw the ball.

ak47kaehu · Jan 26, 2022

Nexx said:
OP needs to stop drinking Samuel Jacksons

Awesome profile photo! Haha!

ak47kaehu · Jan 26, 2022

Maybe he has to actually put a lot of work into his craft in the off season for once......instead of you know.....goofing off and making commercials!

Redline360 · Jan 26, 2022

Dak sits behind one of the top OL's in football even with all the injuries. No website matrix has then ranked outside of top 10. That's just how crummy most quarterbacks have it. Daks in the range of 10-20(10 or so quarterbacks have same range)in time allowed before pressure. I mean cmon the man has it easy compared to 75% of the league

Its mainly his sloppy footwork that causes the issues. Some games he's great then goes back to being a complete mess

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