I fear Dak is a Jerry Jones puppet

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atlantacowboy said:
Thats BS. The Dallas Cowboys existed and were Americas Team far before Jerry Jones arrived on the scene. It is possible to be a cowboy fan and not a Jerry Jones fan.
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yeah true, but it has been the jerry jones circus for about 3 decades now.
If you follow the team your buying into his circus. Especially if you buy cowboys jerseys etc.

The tv ratings are estimated, so watching the games on tv is ok unless your monitored by neilsen.

I find the cowboys to be amusing, and funny, not america's team anymore.

here is a thought, if landry hadnt been fired, how long do you think he would have coached for jerry??
I say 1 maybe 2 years, and he would have left.
 
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KJJ said:
Saying we’re all Jerry’s puppets isn’t saying we’re Jerry Jones fans. To the contrary! Fans have become frustrated with how he runs the team to the extent where some fans claim they’re giving up on the team but they keep coming back because Jerry pulls them back. He’s a great salesman and knows how to sell his product keeping fans interested even when the team continues to spin it’s wheels. There’s an obsession with him and the team even when they’re losing and fans hate his QB. It’s Jerry this and Jerry that wherever you go.
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also fans that like to see cowboys lose or be embarrassed like jerry being owner GM
And many fans dont buy what he is selling, but just like to watch the circus and see how they fail or be a joke each season.

The way the SF game ended was a joke and embarrassing lol
Circus fans like it, and cowboy haters probably loved it.
 
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So then Jerry has failed at two professions. NFL general manager and puppeteer.

If Jerry was pulling Dak's strings, wouldn't he use whatever combinations of strings and coordination of fingers that was necessary to win a Super Bowl?
 
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starcity214 said:
Having Dak as your starting QB is the same thing as dating an ugly GF...


"I like her personality bro!"
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At least with the ugly GF, you can just turn the lights off and imagine she's someone else... The lights (or sun) shine too bright on GameDay around here to hide the flaws.
 
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DandyDon52 said:
The way the SF game ended was a joke and embarrassing lol
Circus fans like it, and cowboy haters probably loved it.
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That was embarrassing. I believe one of our players tried pitching the ball to one of our other players and they couldn’t get a grip on it. It looked like they were playing hot potato. It looked like a Keystone cop routine.
 
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Just another case of misevaluating Dak's skill set. With good talent in the right places on offense, Dak can operate very effectively so long as he avoids turnovers by attempting to play outside of his skill set. In other words, he was meant to be an elite bus driver, but a bus driver just the same. That's not an insult. There are many great quarterbacks that were not the most accurate and strong armed phenoms in the NFL but started multiple championship games.

I actually put Brady in the same category and that makes sense if you look at his statistical history and the support he received and when he received it.

Dak cannot be compared to prolific passers. He's not that accurate and his arm isn't that strong. That is to say, he has those skills, just not at an elite level. However, he has the ability to escape pass rushes, good running ability, and perseverance. He does have good leadership characteristics,

The issue is that, just because he may generate elite numbers that doesn't necessarily mean he is an elite quarterback. When there are times when Dak has a complete team of All Pro O-linemen, multiple top tier WR's, a dependable TE and a superior running attack, Dak can operate as effectively as any top QB in this league.

The whole point is that when the offense is suffering multiple player issues like injuries or suspensions then Dak is not that kind of quarterback to carry a team on his back. He was supposed to be the kind of quarterback that was smart and careful while getting the ball into the hands of the offensive playmakers.

The contract changed everything. Jerry Jones now expects a return on his investment because he thinks the size of a contract will somehow translate to an improvement in abilities and skill set

Jerry made the same exact mistake with Marion Barber. Barber looked great under Parcells because he only received a very limited number of carries until the 4th quarter when the Cowboys were trying to protect a lead. By this time the opponent is fatigued, may have little fight in them and Barber's job was to take time off the clock.

When Parcells left, Jerry made Barber the starter, paid him big and expected big. What happened? Barber played like Barber which wasn'tg such a good idea in the 1st quarter. Barber's style also wore out Barber, he fought aggressively for every inch he could get. As a result, his efficiency decreased drastically. His avcerage yards per carry dropped by a full yard.

It's almost as if Dak knows he is expected to be a top 5 passer and that puts too much pressure on him. Again, he is a great overall quarterback but not an elite passer. When you take those expectation and add in a drastic decrease in the effectiveness of the running game plus the musical chairs along the O-line, it was just too much to overcome.

To summarize, I think Dak's greatest problem is that the team's management can't make up their mind what type of offense they are and then commit to being the best of that category.
 
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plasticman said:
Just another case of misevaluating Dak's skill set. With good talent in the right places on offense, Dak can operate very effectively so long as he avoids turnovers by attempting to play outside of his skill set. In other words, he was meant to be an elite bus driver, but a bus driver just the same. That's not an insult. There are many great quarterbacks that were not the most accurate and strong armed phenoms in the NFL but started multiple championship games.

I actually put Brady in the same category and that makes sense if you look at his statistical history and the support he received and when he received it.

Dak cannot be compared to prolific passers. He's not that accurate and his arm isn't that strong. That is to say, he has those skills, just not at an elite level. However, he has the ability to escape pass rushes, good running ability, and perseverance. He does have good leadership characteristics,

The issue is that, just because he may generate elite numbers that doesn't necessarily mean he is an elite quarterback. When there are times when Dak has a complete team of All Pro O-linemen, multiple top tier WR's, a dependable TE and a superior running attack, Dak can operate as effectively as any top QB in this league.

The whole point is that when the offense is suffering multiple player issues like injuries or suspensions then Dak is not that kind of quarterback to carry a team on his back. He was supposed to be the kind of quarterback that was smart and careful while getting the ball into the hands of the offensive playmakers.

The contract changed everything. Jerry Jones now expects a return on his investment because he thinks the size of a contract will somehow translate to an improvement in abilities and skill set

Jerry made the same exact mistake with Marion Barber. Barber looked great under Parcells because he only received a very limited number of carries until the 4th quarter when the Cowboys were trying to protect a lead. By this time the opponent is fatigued, may have little fight in them and Barber's job was to take time off the clock.

When Parcells left, Jerry made Barber the starter, paid him big and expected big. What happened? Barber played like Barber which wasn'tg such a good idea in the 1st quarter. Barber's style also wore out Barber, he fought aggressively for every inch he could get. As a result, his efficiency decreased drastically. His avcerage yards per carry dropped by a full yard.

It's almost as if Dak knows he is expected to be a top 5 passer and that puts too much pressure on him. Again, he is a great overall quarterback but not an elite passer. When you take those expectation and add in a drastic decrease in the effectiveness of the running game plus the musical chairs along the O-line, it was just too much to overcome.

To summarize, I think Dak's greatest problem is that the team's management can't make up their mind what type of offense they are and then commit to being the best of that category.
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While I agree with most of your assessment of Dak I will have to point out that Brady has elite level football IQ and that is as much a talent as Armstrenght or Accuracy.

Dak can't be compared to Brady.


Dak compares to Garoppolo and Alex Smith. Your typical bus driver.

Having said that, i don't think anyone team is lining up to pay Garoppolo 40M a year and not expect him to be more than just a bus driver. Doesn't work that way...

If I'm jerry I tell Dak to start playing like a 40M QB or im moving on.

Since Jerry had the audacity to call out Amari for not playing up to his 20M salary he should do the same with his 40M QB.

Fans are really out here expecting our owner to "babysit" and "hide" a player that makes almost twice as much as the next highest paid player on the team ..good luck winning anything with that team.
 
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Personally, I believe his leadership is very overrated.

His true colors showed through a lot this year. A leader doesn't blame others (the refs) for their horrible play.
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So frustration got the better of him in the playoff game against the 9rs regarding the refs and that underrates his leadership status? He also publically apologized for his comment about the refs.
Can you name other incidents where he did something similar that conclusively diminishes Dak as a solid leader? How is that his true colors showing through a lot this year? Personally,
I think Dak is a very good quarterback but not an elite quarterback. His character is just fine.
 
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KJJ said:
That was embarrassing. I believe one of our players tried pitching the ball to one of our other players and they couldn’t get a grip on it. It looked like they were playing hot potato. It looked like a Keystone cop routine.
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bad coaching
 
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DandyDon52 said:
yeah true, but it has been the jerry jones circus for about 3 decades now.
If you follow the team your buying into his circus. Especially if you buy cowboys jerseys etc.

The tv ratings are estimated, so watching the games on tv is ok unless your monitored by neilsen.

I find the cowboys to be amusing, and funny, not america's team anymore.

here is a thought, if landry hadnt been fired, how long do you think he would have coached for jerry??
I say 1 maybe 2 years, and he would have left.
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Landry was not a GM/HC. He worked very well with Tex Schram to build those teams. I think Landry and Jerry would have got along just fine.

Buying things like jerseys and other team related things have no impact on Jerry or his decisions. He makes a tiny cut, but who you are really hurting by boycotting are the dozens of small businesses involved in the manufacture , distribution, and marketing of those things.
 
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