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Robster8989 said:
You must have missed the part where the ref spotted the ball.
See him backing away as the camera cuts to the LOS?
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The correct ref spotted the ball there. In our game the guy 25 yards back spotted it. He also respotted it twice as I’d he had any idea on where it should be spotted after coming from 25 yards back.

That’s what is strange.
 
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DandyDon52 said:
come on blue ! lol
set it without disrupting the players..... the only way to do that is go around the end of the line and come back down between the lines lol.
by the time he does that time is gone.
The cowboys flubbed that by not letting him thru, and hand him the ball, then get set.
They didnt let him thru, and they acted like they had no idea he had to set it/ touch it.

Cowboys tried to run a play without knowing the rules, and it was just poor execution on their part.
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No. The incorrect ref tried to spot the ball. Since they were waiting 10? 15? Seconds for him to get there they were probably like what the ****, I guess it’s been touched.

Why would the ref coming from 25 yards back think he had any idea on where it should be spotted? He moved it twice wasting even more time after his dum*** ran into players.

The Rams game showed how it should be done. Very simply.
 
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DandyDon52 said:
come on blue ! lol
set it without disrupting the players..... the only way to do that is go around the end of the line and come back down between the lines lol.
by the time he does that time is gone.
The cowboys flubbed that by not letting him thru, and hand him the ball, then get set.
They didnt let him thru, and they acted like they had no idea he had to set it/ touch it.

Cowboys tried to run a play without knowing the rules, and it was just poor execution on their part.
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HE WAS LATE WAY LATE
the rams game the other official ie back judge saw the umpire couldn't get there and ran from the front and easily and very quickly got it set OK that umpire in our game should have been quicker and KNEW should have anticipated the need to go get there or have another ref set it.easy peasy..stop acting as if the umpire had NO part of that pay..he messed it up maybe not on purpose but he was far too slow and late getting back to the ball..sorry that FACT we saw videos all over the nfl past and present of refs who do it correctly and do not impede our players and ruin a play,
 
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Mr_C said:
The correct ref spotted the ball there. In our game the guy 25 yards back spotted it. He also respotted it twice as I’d he had any idea on where it should be spotted after coming from 25 yards back.

That’s what is strange.
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our umpire messed that up for sure whereas the back judge saw he needed to go help and di so, our crew decided wit was unimportant to make more of an effort to get it set.
 
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blueblood70 said:
our umpire messed that up for sure whereas the back judge saw he needed to go help and di so, our crew decided wit was unimportant to make more of an effort to get it set.
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Messed it up? Then shouldn’t it be a dead ball correction or something? How much time could the ball have just sat there with our center holding it?
 
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Mr_C said:
Messed it up? Then shouldn’t it be a dead ball correction or something? How much time could the ball have just sat there with our center holding it?
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they dont see it like that its tough cookies that we needed more time over slow moving umpire..no way to challenge that..its the luck of the draw with officiating crews you know this i mean how in the word with 2 scrambling qbs running 60 or more plays pieces in the KC Bills game are only 4 penalties total called with OT??

strange i guess those two teams just don't make mistakes or they were allowed to play and our crew hit us with 14 penalties and messed up spot on the last play,,chit happens right :)
 
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Mr_C said:
Hey stupid, why did the ref respot the ball after running from 25 yards back. How would he have any idea where it should be?
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Oh, now you want to tango with me again after I had a front row seat to you getting destroyed trying to call refs biased? Did you go into tyke1doe's PMs to call him nasty names like after I destroyed you in the Dez no-catch debates? Wish I had saved them. Lol.

Here it is AGAIN for you Mr. Compromised (in the brain). Try not to ignore/avoid it this time. Pay attention to the bold text, especially the underlined.

This video shows Dak should have been marked down at the 26. If the ref was doing his job correctly, he should have spotted the ball backwards 2 more yards from where the Cowboys spotted it themselves which would have used clock anyways when everyone had to back up. In the video, you even see the Line Judge at the top of the screen on the sideline at 0:10, showing the spot to be on the other side of the 25 and then hops forward 1+ yard after the spotting official puts it at about the 24 to try to hurry things along. There's the concrete evidence. The refs tried helping us but Dak needed to go down around the 30 to account for all that could happen.

 
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Brax said:
the ball was spotted,
"Umpire is the primary for spotting the ball," Dean Blandino, the NFL's vice president of officiating from 2013-17, explained on Twitter. "But on a deep pass like that the Back Judge will spot the ball. Goal is to be as efficient as possible."
So it appears that a 44 yard pass is longer than a 17 yard run and slide, looks like it was done correctly for the last time.
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That's the problem. The way they did it in our game was not efficient, for whatever reasons. I don't think we would have won even if they had shown the urgency to get it spotted and get out of the offense's way. But it would be nice for once for the officials not to do something controversial in the fourth quarter of our playoff game.
 
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JayFord said:
The Cowboys lost that game because of penalties

the only penalty that had me raging was the delay of game

the ref actually stood there for 6 seconds while we tried to snap the ball
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yes, which was more infuriating because the 49ers were set 3 seconds earlier.
the pause did zero but let the playclock run out.
a playclock the ref was starting at as he stood over the ball.
 

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Dallas game gave the refs a lesson on who should actually spot the ball, But If they just played better it wouldn't be an issue and should not be.
 
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Jake said:
Yeah, I'm done with these threads.

Dallas had 59 minutes and 46 seconds to not be in that situation. They trailed the entire game and lost.
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So what- it’s a 60 minute game. Did you not watch the Chiefs and Bills game? The chiefs had 59 minutes and 47 seconds to not be in that situation.
 
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rocknrobcowboy said:
Nevermind
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This is my problem with the whole thing. He spots the ball and backs into the D. The official who spotted the ball in our game, ran behind the D after his "spot". Why wasn't he behind the D to begin with, instead of 15 yards behind the QB? Any play downfield, he's chasing from way behind, he's going to be far out of position.

The last article I can find on NFL.com on the subject was 5 years ago, which says the umpire should be behind the offense, except in the final 2 minutes or inside the 10 yd line, then they should be behind the front 7 of the D. Given the situation, there was no excuse for the ump to be 20 yards behind the offense. It's one area where college rules are superior, the clock stops with each first down in the final few minutes of a half.

The ump was grossly incompetent, as was the whole crew. As are most refs. Imagine you're living with a loss like the Raiders where officials just lied and pretended there was no whistle.

The Cowboys shouldn't be focused at all on the poor officiating, but the NFL should. It's a bad problem that gets worse every year.
 
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Mr_C said:
Hey stupid, why did the ref respot the ball after running from 25 yards back. How would he have any idea where it should be?
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well they do have ear pieces and booth does talk to them so he could be told.
That said it did seem like it wasnt necessary in that situation to reset it but merely touch it and give go ahead to snap.
he moved it back which the center then had to move back and others, so it did waste a couple of seconds.

Maybe bookmakers needed dallas to lose not win.

The play was dumb and poorly executed, but that ref and what he did does raise my eyebrows.
 
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"IF BY CHANCE" we get the ball spotted there with 1 second left on the 25-yard line and Dak MIRACULOUSLY hits Cedric Wilson at the 5yd. line, he then laterals the ball to Dalton Schultz for a walk in TOUCH DOWN.. But before you get too excited it's time for the EXTRA POINT TRY. Does anyone believe Zuerlein would have made that kick?? Worst case scenario is O.T. but you get my point.. Nothing comes easy for us, but what a great OPPORTUNITY it could have been.
 
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TNCowboy said:
This is my problem with the whole thing. He spots the ball and backs into the D. The official who spotted the ball in our game, ran behind the D after his "spot". Why wasn't he behind the D to begin with, instead of 15 yards behind the QB? Any play downfield, he's chasing from way behind, he's going to be far out of position.

The last article I can find on NFL.com on the subject was 5 years ago, which says the umpire should be behind the offense, except in the final 2 minutes or inside the 10 yd line, then they should be behind the front 7 of the D. Given the situation, there was no excuse for the ump to be 20 yards behind the offense. It's one area where college rules are superior, the clock stops with each first down in the final few minutes of a half.

The ump was grossly incompetent, as was the whole crew. As are most refs. Imagine you're living with a loss like the Raiders where officials just lied and pretended there was no whistle.

The Cowboys shouldn't be focused at all on the poor officiating, but the NFL should. It's a bad problem that gets worse every year.
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maybe they like it like that so they can fix games and get kickbacks on money made in gambling.
The rules and refs seem to be set up that way on purpose.
The catch rule is set up so it can be ruled however they want.
 
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DandyDon52 said:
well they do have ear pieces and booth does talk to them so he could be told.
That said it did seem like it wasnt necessary in that situation to reset it but merely touch it and give go ahead to snap.
he moved it back which the center then had to move back and others, so it did waste a couple of seconds.

Maybe bookmakers needed dallas to lose not win.

The play was dumb and poorly executed, but that ref and what he did does raise my eyebrows.
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When it comes to where the spot was, I literally gave the answer in my post above with video. Let's see if your boy @Mr_C comes back to acknowledge or just avoids it by coming up with a tangent argument.

The correct spot was behind the 25 yard line as marked by the Line Judge on the sideline. That's what the ball-spotting official was trying to move back to but the entire O-Line was there and set so he said, "screw it" and left it practically in place to hurry things along. The Line Judge saw this from the sideline and then hopped forward to the new (not correct) line of scrimmage. Had he been absolute about a correct spot, everyone on Dallas would have had to move back, get set, and then have Dak spike it. The end result would have been the same in having time expire. The refs tried to help us. Dumb play call and then compounded by panicking and not knowing the ref had to spot the ball first is what did us in. Crappy execution. Where have we heard this before? But CONSPIRACY! is the easy, lazy excuse.
 
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