Opinion: Dak ad libed that last play and could have run out of bounds

DandyDon52 · Jan 26, 2022

RomoIsGod said:
Could Dak have thrown it out of bounds behind him slightly?

if a dallas player was over by sideline, as a intended receiver, of a lateral pass, then that might work..
on this play there would have been no one there and then a penalty and clock run off game over..

conner01 · Jan 26, 2022

DandyDon52 said:
Dak has options , he can change the play or ad lib. use your common sense if you have any lol.
None of the cowboy players blocked, and thought it was going to be a pass, does that seem like a called play to you?

They generally called multiple plays and he can change within those plays
I can’t believe with 14 seconds they had multiple plays called
And sure seemed like the staff confirmed they ran a called play
Ever situation they don’t have multiple plays calked

DandyDon52 · Jan 26, 2022

Adreme said:
I have come around to not knocking the play call. I have even accepted that yes expecting to get the play off that fast is not reasonable (had the Rams only had 14 seconds for example the clock would have expired), but the thing I cannot wrap my head around is that of the 11 people on that field only ONE realized on that final snap that they should run a route and not spike it because only one player moved for real. That is not even on the players. The fact that you had time to get ready for this situation and no one knew what to do means the coaches did not prepare by telling the players "If there are 2 seconds or less on the clock, here is the play, else it will be a spike". That is an inexcusable failure on the part of the coaching staff.

that is a good idea too
I think the snap was in time but not the spike, so they could have run another play with everyone on defense in panic mode.

DandyDon52 · Jan 26, 2022

conner01 said:
They generally called multiple plays and he can change within those plays
I can’t believe with 14 seconds they had multiple plays called
And sure seemed like the staff confirmed they ran a called play
Ever situation they don’t have multiple plays calked

the staff can not tell the truth too, just so they or dak dont look bad. you cant always believe what they say at pressers.
This was an embarrassing play, so it is one they might likely lie or mislead with their answers.

Lets just say it was a dak ad lib, do you think jerry would want that to be said publicly?? I dont think he would.
So in that case they would place blame elsewhere.

Dre11 · Jan 26, 2022

DandyDon52 said:
so why are you here?? go away
find a thread you like and stay out of this one.

I'm here to tell you how dumb is. If you followed your team you'd know what happened.... Dandy
Instead of making up sh**

Aviano90 · Jan 26, 2022

DallasEast said:
It would surprise me if he could not heave a football 50 yards, hurt shoulder or not. It is one thing for a pass to fall short or beyond a receiver going deep. That takes timing between quarterback and receiver. It is another thing for most hail marys involving the quarterback to throw at an area of the endzone and hope a receiver outjumps and outmuscles everyone around him. Of course, it could also be 100% true that was the coach's motivation behind that <expletive> play.

Could be that he is also inaccurate as hell when the throws a Hail Mary, sometimes even throwing it out of bounds. Something is amiss.

DallasEast · Jan 26, 2022

Aviano90 said:
Could be that he is also inaccurate as hell when the throws a Hail Mary, sometimes even throwing it out of bounds. Something is amiss.

Like I initially said. he could have attempted two uncatchable passes. Even a pass thrown into the endzone stands would have been near the endzone. In the end, the ball bounced off the ground after getting spiked after the clock died.

DandyDon52 · Jan 26, 2022

Aviano90 said:
Could be that he is also inaccurate as hell when the throws a Hail Mary, sometimes even throwing it out of bounds. Something is amiss.

All hail marys are inaccurate.
The further away they are the more inaccurate they are . Thats why they wanted to get closer, so it is pass not a fly ball heave.

I like that, just not how they did it.

I think throwing short of EZ and then try to run it the last say 10 yds has a better chance.
let most go into EZ , then have 1 or 2 shorter on both sides of field, and qb throws to one.

conner01 · Jan 26, 2022

DandyDon52 said:
the staff can not tell the truth too, just so they or dak dont look bad. you cant always believe what they say at pressers.
This was an embarrassing play, so it is one they might likely lie or mislead with their answers.

Lets just say it was a dak ad lib, do you think jerry would want that to be said publicly?? I dont think he would.
So in that case they would place blame elsewhere.

At that point in a game even an idiot is not going to just wing it
It was a designed play that was practiced many times
To think Dak just pulled the play out of his butt is laughable

Aviano90 · Jan 27, 2022

DandyDon52 said:
All hail marys are inaccurate.
The further away they are the more inaccurate they are . Thats why they wanted to get closer, so it is pass not a fly ball heave.

I like that, just not how they did it.

I think throwing short of EZ and then try to run it the last say 10 yds has a better chance.
let most go into EZ , then have 1 or 2 shorter on both sides of field, and qb throws to one.

I get that but we rarely try Hail Mary’s and Dak has thrown at least 2 out of the field of play. That’s beyond inaccurate, it inexcusable when you’re not even giving the receivers the small chance the opportunity affords.

I can understand needing to get closer, but from the SF 40 yard line? That ball needs to be going into the end zone. Not trying to inch closer for one final shot.

DandyDon52 · Jan 27, 2022

Aviano90 said:
I get that but we rarely try Hail Mary’s and Dak has thrown at least 2 out of the field of play. That’s beyond inaccurate, it inexcusable when you’re not even giving the receivers the small chance the opportunity affords.

I can understand needing to get closer, but from the SF 40 yard line? That ball needs to be going into the end zone. Not trying to inch closer for one final shot.

I disagree, the closer a team is to the EZ the greater the chance of a completion. It goes from a sky ball, to a more accurate pass.

I dont like just everyone going to same spot, that is for the long low% hail mary, but if you get closer, you can throw to any spot, the whole EZ and even underneath
has to be covered.

In that buff kc game josh had a 4th down and 13 around the 25 and threw a td pass to one guy who broke open.

DandyDon52 · Jan 27, 2022

conner01 said:
At that point in a game even an idiot is not going to just wing it
It was a designed play that was practiced many times
To think Dak just pulled the play out of his butt is laughable

well you or i dont know how much or what type of practice was done on that play.
A idiot might wing it . hence the name idiot.

Even if your close to being right, it means they did not practice the play properly, because the design and execution of it was awful.
And it sure looks like other dallas players had no idea he was running, and had no idea what to do.

Miguelitomama · Jan 27, 2022

Aviano90 said:
The chances of a 25 yard TD pass with SF knowing we have one play to do it is also minimal.

Our chances of winning at that point were minimal no matter how you look at it.

Chuck 54 · Jan 27, 2022

The play was called and run right after SF called a timeout because we surprised them with how far we moved the ball in a short time with no timeouts. They called timeout to set their defense all along the sidelines and end zone. We probably had another sideline play ready in case the defense didn’t change, but this was the play n case they did what we assumed they called the timeout for. The play was not an ad lib situation….ridiculous suggestion.

conner01 · Jan 27, 2022

DandyDon52 said:
well you or i dont know how much or what type of practice was done on that play.
A idiot might wing it . hence the name idiot.

Even if your close to being right, it means they did not practice the play properly, because the design and execution of it was awful.
And it sure looks like other dallas players had no idea he was running, and had no idea what to do.

The play call was dumb
Way to risky
The exaction was worse
There is no doubt about that

TheHerd · Jan 27, 2022

Diehardblues said:
Actually it’s not a bad play if you know to look or run to referee with the ball so they can spot it. There was about 8 seconds that were wasted as not one single Cowboy looked for an official.

And even if we had spiked the ball in time the odds of converting a TD from 25 yards is very low.

To me the game or last real chance was lost when we couldn’t make a stop on 49ers last drive with over 7 minutes left. All that was left was a desperate last gasp.

I'm not going to disagree we need to get stops on those drives, but we had the ball at midfield with over 2 minutes left, first down, and all three timeouts. That's a high percentage win probability in today's NFL.

blueblood70 · Jan 27, 2022

DandyDon52 said:
that is a good point, should have been a better review of it.
add to that the ref staying so far downfield seems like they maybe wanted SF to win the game. not refs but someone much higher on the nfl totem pole/

ther are several refs on the field and like the rams game any of them closer could have easily gone and spotted it..

conspiracy or not just another example of piss poor inconsistent officiating. i saw at least 4 hold on their offense not called some oL, some wrs in those infamous screens/motions/zone runs they run that only work when they hold a lot and not get called. Odd maybe they are just bad but doesn't matter now we got 14 penalties and the other team played nearly perfect the KC -BIL game 4 total penalties in an OT game with offense scrambling all over the field. Wow i dint realize other teams play such perfect games and the DC and raiders only teams that just dont know how to not mess up.

Fontaine · Jan 27, 2022

I really think he was supposed to run for 10, which would take the clock to around 5 seconds or so once the ball was downed and make it a 30 yard shot to end zone, which is much more manageable. Instead he saw the open field and kept going, thus killing the clock…also, it didn’t help that the damn back judge was 30 yards behind him.

RxMan · Jan 27, 2022

DandyDon52 said:
well you or i dont know how much or what type of practice was done on that play.
A idiot might wing it . hence the name idiot.

Even if your close to being right, it means they did not practice the play properly, because the design and execution of it was awful.
And it sure looks like other dallas players had no idea he was running, and had no idea what to do.

Actually we do know how much the play was practiced. It was reported from multiple sources that the exact play and situation were practiced twice a week.
The play was specifically designed for the defense and situation that was presented.

Diehardblues · Jan 27, 2022

TheHerd said:
I'm not going to disagree we need to get stops on those drives, but we had the ball at midfield with over 2 minutes left, first down, and all three timeouts. That's a high percentage win probability in today's NFL.

Honestly I’d forgotten that possession. I was thinking SF ran the clock down on their final possession.

Opinion: Dak ad libed that last play and could have run out of bounds

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