Dak's TD totals: good teams vs bad teams

Yobwocs said:

Dak vs SF, Tampa, Raiders, Patriots, Cardinals, Chiefs (playoff teams)

13 TDs

2.16666 TDs per game



Dak in other 11 games (non playoff teams + Eagles)

27 TDs

2.454545 TDs per game


So he scores 0.29 less TDs against good teams vs bad teams. I'm not trying to make a Dak love or Dak excuse thread. I'm just saying... everyone says he beats bad teams, but his TD production doesn't show too drastic a difference between how he plays vs good teams and bad teams. TDs are the main stat. That shows that plays are being made and points are being scored. None of these games were in garbage time so all these stats are relevant.

I don't think it's only Dak that doesn't show up vs good teams. Nobody else shows up either. Pass rush is a no show against the NFC West. Defense forces turnovers only against Taysom Hill and Mike Glennon. Defense clearly looks way better vs the Giants and Vikings than vs challenging teams. Offensive line gets bulldozed against the Niners and Chiefs. Running game relatively ineffective. Always a few kicks missed in key games. 100 penalties when we're forced to play more physically. We need to find out why EVERYONE plays worse against great teams. It's not just a Dak problem. It's a team problem. Thoughts?

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blueblood70 said:

exactly
dak didn't get penalized 14 times, dak didn't miss blocks, dak didn't create the lack OF A RUN GAME, , Dak didn't miss FGS, Dak didn't drop passes, dak doesn't call plays, DAK DIDNT GIVE UP scores on 4 straight drives to start a game. got it yet

we lost by 6 despite that total mess by the team. none can be placed on dak.,

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Playmaker3128 said:

Forget stats for a second. Do you honestly think he played well against good teams this year? Here is the example I'll use to illustrate my point. Two years ago we played the browns. Who were a decent team that year, .500 I believe. I think we went up 14-7 early in the game. In quarters 2-3 the browns outscored us 34-0. By the fourth quarter the score is 41-14.

Does dak lead us back to score 24 points in the fourth quarter? Absolutely. But the game was pretty much out of hand at that point.

The point I'm trying to make is sometimes stats don't tell the whole story. Dak needs to be more consistent over 4 quarters of football. In The broncos, Cheifs. cardinals, and 49ers playoff game the d kept us in the game. Dak had ample opportunities to lead us back and didn't even come close.

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Denim Chicken said:

$40 million. Should win a Super Bowl every year. 0 picks.

No excuses.

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Creeper said:

I think you have to break Dak's season into two parts, the first 7 and the last 9 he played.

Also, how many TDs he threw is not as relevant as when he threw them. Some Dak critics accuse him of padding his stats late in the game. I would argue that was certainly possible against the Cardinals and 49ers, Denver too. But the Bucs game was close and they did come back to tie the Raiders late, even though the offense was ineffective early allowing the Raiders to get to a big lead.

At the end of the day, It is hard to argue that late in the season Dak played well. Many very knowledgeable football analysts claimed Dak was slumping, or not playing as well as he could. The rest of us could just see it with our own eyes. Dak was awful against the Cardinals. And he was not very good against the 49ers either. I know his defenders will say it was the offensive line. But there were plays when he had time to throw and he did not make the big plays. He gets paid $40 million. When the opportunities present themselves, he should be taking advantage.

At this point, I think the discussion should be more on what to do now knowing Dak is with us for at least another 3 years. The consensus seems to be fix the OL and run the football. I agree. The threat of the run will make Dallas a much better offense even if they score fewer points.

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atlantacowboy said:

Nice how you conveniently trimmed out any information identifying the quarter and score. We were down 22-7 at the start of the 4th quarter bonehead.

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rnr_honeybadger said:

I would place the bar very low for Dak. How about just a competitive offense that moves the ball? Can we start there or is that too much to ask for?

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DCwarrior said:

It’s garbage time stats. Suck for 3 1/2 quarters then throw 2 touchdowns while losing by 17. Game over!

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sacase said:

I agree, I would like to see how many of those TD's were against good teams and occurred when the game was out of reach and the team was playing prevent.

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atlantacowboy said:

1-5 against playoff teams outside the division. Case closed. Who cares if he piled on TDs and yards in garbage time?

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sacase said:

I agree, I would like to see how many of those TD's were against good teams and occurred when the game was out of reach and the team was playing prevent.

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Gangsta Spanksta said:

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atlantacowboy said:

Well, we know he had 17 of his 37 TD passes against the NFC East. We were down 22-7 entering the 4th quarter against AZ.

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atlantacowboy said:

Dak came up with 2 garbage time TDs 23-7 entering the 4th quarter against SF.

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Denim Chicken said:

We seriously have the most ignorant fans in the nfl. Literally just say stuff that is completely BS with nothing to back it up.

Like, did you even watch these games? Please give me your take how these were garbage time stats?

SF - Down by 13 beginning of the 4th. Scored a FG with 9 min left. You think a team is playing prevent down 10 points with 9 min to go?

Tampa - game to a FG at the end. Dak played great.
Raiders - Ties the game in the 4th, went to OT

Patriots - won this game, played great, game wining OT drive

Cardinals -down by 8 going into the 4th

Chiefs - Did not score a TD in the fourth

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Denim Chicken said:

We seriously have the most ignorant fans in the nfl. Literally just say stuff that is completely BS with nothing to back it up.

Like, did you even watch these games? Please give me your take how these were garbage time stats?

SF - Down by 13 beginning of the 4th. Scored a FG with 9 min left. You think a team is playing prevent down 10 points with 9 min to go?

Tampa - game to a FG at the end. Dak played great.
Raiders - Ties the game in the 4th, went to OT

Patriots - won this game, played great, game wining OT drive

Cardinals -down by 8 going into the 4th

Chiefs - Did not score a TD in the fourth

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DCwarrior said:

Just look at what you posted and ask yourself if YOU watched the game. Look at the common denominator, we were down going into the fourth in almost all of them. That’s what I see!

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atlantacowboy said:

1-5 against playoff teams outside the division. Case closed. Who cares if he piled on TDs and yards in garbage time?

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blueblood70 said:

sorry facts scare you and doesn't fit the hate narratives, dak was the issue these big games if you take into account how poor the team played around him.. sorry those are facts vs troll narratives. the QB while the leader and always having the ball in his hands cant overcome 1st and 20 on half the drives or 3rd and 16 that not playing an even playing field whole the other side is 1st 10 or worse our DL jump offsides 3 times and give them free 1st downs that allowed them to run the clock down before punting. if that on Dak you truly have an issue separating reality from the narrative fans who dont like dak create the same way they do other players.

its team game when you cant signal out one player or two that wrecked the game i saw like 10 Dak cant overcome that mess..

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