Coaching isn’t what’s going to put us over the hump

Blackrain said:

Exactly and you said coaching isn't going to get us over the hump Well the proper coaching can make use of elite but troubled talent that other coaches are not able to make use of.

So in reality if we had good coaching that could discipline the players we already have and possibly discipline some economical talent like the Rams found in OBJ we may be able to get a little further.

It's a given every team would like to add more talent The trick of the light is finding a coaching staff that can get the most out of their role players and players obtained in later rounds.

We haven't had elite coaching in so long it seems like some of the people here obviously yourself has forgotten just how important it is.

Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson are in the Hall of Fame for a reason. They coached players to super bowl wins and made the talent they had into the best it could be

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Diehardblues said:

All you homers have is criticism of our attitudes and attack the messengers cause you despise the message and get frustrated when we stand firm on our argument.

And when we fired back with our arrogance and condescension always end up in this place. It’s so unnecessary. Just ignore please to avoid this. Or is your entire tactic to just derail the thread. If that’s the case then eat it . I’m tired of being cordial and wasting time.

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Diehardblues said:

But they didn’t have success until they had the talent. And why assembling the talent is the key.

My reference to coaching was to our current talent. I don’t think we have enough talent to be uplifted to a SB. Not based on the opposition waiting.

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ESisback said:

“All you homers” is being cordial? That’s funny. You talk to normal Cowboy fans like they’re irrelevant foreigners, then complain about wasting time being cordial? Sounds like YOU are frustrated because WE stand firm! You’re the first to claim being “attacked”!
In closing, “homers” can discuss football matters just like you, but you don’t wanna hear it, because we don’t talk like we’re immersed in it for a living ourselves.

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Blackrain said:

We probably don't have enough talent for our coaching to uplift us to a super bowl but there are half a dozen coaches in the league that could have gotten us further with the talent we have then one and done.

It doesn't matter how much talent you add if it continually regresses and becomes undisciplined and underachieving which is exactly what happens here because of the culture

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Diehardblues said:

But we aren’t going to attract any of those coaches. And we can’t be sure our dysfunction and culture would drag them down too. And why I believe talent and more talent is our best way to overcome.

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Blackrain said:

You are 100% correct we will not attract those coaches because they need full control to do their best work and that would take Jerry out of his comfort zone.

The problem is there isn't an amount of talent we can get with the current salary cap to overcome Jerry's culture
The culture turns good players into undisciplined business decision makers.

It's like you just can't draft enough of them at one time to overcome the culture and make a playoff run before they regress.
This is why I altered my expectations long ago to being satisfied with just making the playoffs.

In the last 25 years we've had all different combinations of players and coaches and none of them have overcome Jerry's culture yet so I have no faith that they will.

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quickccc said:

You need talent but you also need coaching.

Coaching directs and positions talent, and places leadership and confidence within the team.

- The arrival and improvement of Dan Quinn vs Mike Nolan alone, shows what a difference making proper coaching can make.
Plan, discipline, positioning, techniques, scheme, a difference between disguising complex while making it simplified enough for players to grasp on and
be allowed to play fast.

And it goes both ways on both sides of the ball. - even special teams.

- Bones Fassel became a better, more effective special teams coach once he was directed to be more fundamental than high circus antic.

- Despite his SB resume, I'm not the biggest McCarthy fan when it comes to Discipline, game management decisions, adjusting in game on the run.
and having his team most prepared and motivated.

Its a reason why we led the NFL in penalties, and i don't think the penalty issues is gonna be resolved with a HC that doesn't even tack his players to detour away from blaming refs.in the media.

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Diehardblues said:

Talent is our best hope overcoming our dysfunctional and toxic organization.

And the best talent at the key positions , top offense and defense .

The closer we are to having the most Elite QB, best offense and defense the closer we will be to returning to a Super Bowl.

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Diehardblues said:

Boring…don’t care anymore sweetheart.

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buybuydandavis said:

The coaches didn't make the most of the talent we had. Could have squeaked past SF with better coaching. The game was close. Probably could have gotten a bye with better coaching.

Our problem with talent is that it is going *down*. Lots key cheap players in contract years last season. Bye bye.

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DStar22 said:

I am not sure I agree that coaching can;t get us there. -110 yards in mostly needless penalties are an issue. things like false starts need to go.

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TexasBoys2288 said:

After Jimmy abandoned us, Switzer came in and let the players run the asylum. Dallas had the top talent in the league, and they failed to get to the Superbowl. Switzer talked with the team and told them let's try this my way, and the next year won the Superbowl. Coaching matters. I was not a Switzer fan, but the guy knew how to win.

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• Undervalue the importance of a HC who creates an accountable, disciplined locker room. (Like Jimmy did)
• Select HCs based on his “comfort” with them (translation: they will not object to his “involvement with the team”) instead of their actual coaching ability. (See ten years of Jason Garrett)
• Ensure the HC won’t be overshadowing his place as the “face of the franchise”.

Bobhaze said:

You can’t get a great HC here in Dallas if the owner continues to:

• Undervalue the importance of a HC who creates an accountable, disciplined locker room. (Like Jimmy did)
• Select HCs based on his “comfort” with them (translation: they will not object to his “involvement with the team”) instead of their actual coaching ability. (See ten years of Jason Garrett)
• Ensure the HC won’t be overshadowing his place as the “face of the franchise”.

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