Cowboys Lead The League In Penalties

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BAT said:

The head coach matters.

Penalties, discipline, accountability are HIS responsibilities.

And most of the penalties are coming from the DL and OL, especially OL.

That would be on MM's boy, Philbin.

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And here we thought Jerry put KM in full control of the offense. Well since KM has no responsibilities they could dump KM and save some money. I'd go for that!

Leading the league in penalties will happen when there is a conspiracy by those in charge of league operations against you.

Wow, I never had a job like that.......have an important sounding title like OC with a big paycheck, and if anything goes wrong blame it on the HC. It was like that with JG. When he was OC the blame all fell on the HC. But when he became HC, the blame all fell on the OC.
He had it down to a science. What a racket.

Buzzbait said:

The Cowboys were the most penalized team in the league with 127 penalties in 2021. We had 14 penalties twice this year.
In the SF game we were flagged 14 times for 89 yards. Seven of those 14 were against the offense. Those 7 penalties wiped out 53 yards of gains. 89 + 53 = 142 yards lost to penalties against SF.

I didn’t count how many drives were killed by penalties in the SF game, but it was too many. It’d be interesting if one could convert the loss of those 142 yards into points lost as a result of penalties.
Some teams typically get more penalties and some teams tend to get less. Obviously the biggest difference is coaching and discipline.

Where was Kellen Moore? He doesn’t control the defense of course, but he’s in full charge of the offense. How did we become the league’s leader in penalties without KM taking notice? Or if he did take notice, then he failed to gain control of the issue.
Is that acceptable?

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Unacceptable

In other breaking news the Dodgers moved to LA.

Buzzbait said:

I agree, Williams is the weakest link. I'd move Collins to LG and Steele to RT. That would make Biadasz the new weakest link. I'd be looking for an upgrade to C.
Remember when Collins played LG for the Cowboys? He was a powerhouse at LG.
Leaving Williams at LG was and is stupid of the Cowboys.

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We were lucky to draft Biadasz in the 4th. Rimington trophy winner. Excellent run blocker. Few penalties or sacks.

don’t get the Collins love by some. No Pro Bowls, high base $$$, bad hip and drug suspension. Just what we need.

Steele should be starter at RT now.

draft a LG in the 1st.

CowboyoWales said:

At some point you have to blame the personnel on the field.

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Not in Dallas. Failure is blamed on either Jerry or coaches. Players are not to be held accountable.

Buzzbait said:

The Cowboys were the most penalized team in the league with 127 penalties in 2021. We had 14 penalties twice this year.
In the SF game we were flagged 14 times for 89 yards. Seven of those 14 were against the offense. Those 7 penalties wiped out 53 yards of gains. 89 + 53 = 142 yards lost to penalties against SF.

I didn’t count how many drives were killed by penalties in the SF game, but it was too many. It’d be interesting if one could convert the loss of those 142 yards into points lost as a result of penalties.
Some teams typically get more penalties and some teams tend to get less. Obviously the biggest difference is coaching and discipline.

Where was Kellen Moore? He doesn’t control the defense of course, but he’s in full charge of the offense. How did we become the league’s leader in penalties without KM taking notice? Or if he did take notice, then he failed to gain control of the issue.
Is that acceptable?

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I did a break down. 7 of the penalties were pre-snap. that changed a lot of 3rd and short, or 1st and 10 to 1st and 20 and 3rd and long.....managable down and distance became predictable play and easier to defend. that's shooting yourself in the foot. couple of those pre-snaps also gave SF short downs and allowed them to convert to first downs

CowboyoWales said:

At some point you have to blame the personnel on the field.....we have Connor Williams most holds in the league, so who do we replace him with....McGovern?

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Sad thing is that Dallas wasted a second round pick on Williams.

The question is who has control to address the penalties? OLC? OC? HC? Did this GM not deny the HC increasing fines because players were tardy to meetings or not showing up at all?

Williams got benched because of penalties and they had to put him back in the lineup because McGovern was not ss good.

The offense led the league in penalties, yards and points. Sounds like the Raiders of old when they were winning rings. Because they could overcome those penalties and theirs were usually of the contact variety.

You can blame the coaches but the fact is this team is not good enough to overcome their own self-inflicted wounds. When they were cresting, they were the best 1st down and 3rd down offense in the league and the penalties were not as apparent. But the latter half, that changed. They had to play behind the chains too much.

So, you are the coach, what do you do? The OL is not giving the QB time and worse, the receivers time to get past the marker. So do you take the better player at LG out and provide even less protection?

And did you notice the effect of benching Williams on the other mistake makers? No, you didn't.

There just isn't any depth in the OL's in the NFL so if you have a player like Williams, who has never improved since they wasted a draft pick on him, you either live with that or change it. The fault is hanging onto this player because of the GM's ego not wanting to let picks on the first two days fail. They knew exactly what they had heading into this season, a problem at LG and it bit them in the butt too many times.

The last person I blame is Williams. Have you watched him closely? He's getting mauled at times because every DC knows he is the weakest link in the chain. To a lesser degree, he is Chaz Green, overmatched and overcompensating with trying to get in position faster than the DL. He has absolutely been pancaked by DL.

This franchise is only good picking OL in the 1st round. That is the bigger problem.

Buzzbait said:

The Cowboys were the most penalized team in the league with 127 penalties in 2021. We had 14 penalties twice this year.
In the SF game we were flagged 14 times for 89 yards. Seven of those 14 were against the offense. Those 7 penalties wiped out 53 yards of gains. 89 + 53 = 142 yards lost to penalties against SF.

I didn’t count how many drives were killed by penalties in the SF game, but it was too many. It’d be interesting if one could convert the loss of those 142 yards into points lost as a result of penalties.
Some teams typically get more penalties and some teams tend to get less. Obviously the biggest difference is coaching and discipline.

Where was Kellen Moore? He doesn’t control the defense of course, but he’s in full charge of the offense. How did we become the league’s leader in penalties without KM taking notice? Or if he did take notice, then he failed to gain control of the issue.
Is that acceptable?

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some good teams pretty close to use not big a gap as it seems.. i mean it unacceptable but not unheard of for some of the better teams to be penalized a lot, BTW BILLP big bill here also top of the league in penalty's...some of the least some didn't even make the playoff's or also were one and done. so as much as this is an issue that needs to get cleaned up, hard to signal out coaches for this, players are the issue and hopefully up front they make some changes .

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/what-is-the-most-penalties-by-an-nfl-team-in-2021

1972COWBOY said:

Sad thing is that Dallas wasted a second round pick on Williams.

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not really an ikl bet you he gets some significant money from another team he can play that's not a waste whatever his issues are with penalty's maybe new place will help resolve that but he wont be out of job next year even if we let him walk,, facts good OL are very hard to find.

Buzzbait said:

The Cowboys were the most penalized team in the league with 127 penalties in 2021. We had 14 penalties twice this year.
In the SF game we were flagged 14 times for 89 yards. Seven of those 14 were against the offense. Those 7 penalties wiped out 53 yards of gains. 89 + 53 = 142 yards lost to penalties against SF.

I didn’t count how many drives were killed by penalties in the SF game, but it was too many. It’d be interesting if one could convert the loss of those 142 yards into points lost as a result of penalties.
Some teams typically get more penalties and some teams tend to get less. Obviously the biggest difference is coaching and discipline.

Where was Kellen Moore? He doesn’t control the defense of course, but he’s in full charge of the offense. How did we become the league’s leader in penalties without KM taking notice? Or if he did take notice, then he failed to gain control of the issue.
Is that acceptable?

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When we came out on the 2nd half drive and committed two back to back presnap penalties at home that’s all that really needs to be said. A dumb football team

Rather simple........no accountability yields undiscipline play.......on the coaches initially. HC, DC and OC, you're up first.

And the Bengals the fewest (68). Gosh I hope they win tomorrow!