News: CW: Schultz to AFC South? TE named top FA target of 2 different clubs

aikemirv · Jan 31, 2022

I am torn on Shultz because when Dak is playing his best he uses Shultz a lot. How long will it take for him to get that comfortable with a rookie. I don't see the Franchise tag as an option because of the immediate cap hit of over 10 million. That would be a waste of space IMO. On a team perspective I would just roll with their current group and a draft choice and spend my 10 million elsewhere and let him go.

CWR · Jan 31, 2022

DonaldM said:
Gronks brother was good

I'll say one thing, these legacy players seem to produce more often than not lately.

I'll take that type of blue chip DNA.

visionary · Jan 31, 2022

Rayman70 said:
Schultz is Daks security blanket. I see him being here. Hes really dependable guys. Rather have him, and let Randy walk. Cant win with dumb. Randy can be easily replaced.

how many average players will we over pay because they are friends with our average overpaid entitled QB?

thus is the definition of lack of vision, discipline and accountability

Rayman70 · Jan 31, 2022

visionary said:
how many average players will we over pay because they are friends with our average overpaid entitled QB?

thus is the definition of lack of vision, discipline and accountability

Randy is a prime example of low FB IQ and high graded talent. He's an idiot. He hurts us. Give me the "mudder" types any day that understand the team concept that do not get dumb penalties that cost us the games.

jrumann59 · Jan 31, 2022

Creeper said:
The best thing about Schultz is his rapport with Dak and his experience which enables him to find the open spots on 3rd downs. But TEs in the NFL today need to be more playmakers capable of getting down field. That is not Schultz. I do think there are TEs in the draft who can take Schultz's place for a lot less money.

Cutting Jarwin only saves $3.8 million but I am not sure he is worth that. Since he arrived the Cowboys have fawned over him and even extended him. I don't get it. He had 2 good games against the Giants. I don't think he has good hands to make tough catches. I once thought he could be like the Rams's Tyler Higbee but now I don't think he is even that good.

I am waiting for that kid from Georgia to come out, Brock Bowers. He is already showing greatness as a freshman.

We have plenty of downfield targets, the underneath stuff is what is lacking, since they do not use the backs effectively for the short to medium stuff. They should be using pollard in Beasley role due to his short area quickness, and with his speed he could excel in open field stuff unlike Beasley.

quickccc · Jan 31, 2022

gimmesix said:
I'm kind of in agreement. I think Schultz is a better outlet receiver than Jarwin, while Jarwin is a better downfield receiver, but the one true advantage Schultz had over Jarwin was that he was a better blocker. Teams seemed to figure out how to attack and defeat him as a blocker this year.

If we let him go in FA, though, we have to target TE somewhere in the first four rounds of the draft or pick up some team's second TE that's a better blocker than him.

Schultz also had another true advantage over Jarwin .. he's much tougher and much more durable than Blake.
i recall one single game that Dalton hasn't missed a game because of injury, and he's taken a gallon of wicked hits and tackles,

While missed games and missed series and plays are constantly piling up with Jarwin.
The dude is soft ... too soft. We cannot count on him. We were too hasty in rushing to re-sign him.

quickccc · Jan 31, 2022

- Pluses of Schultz:
He is Dak's best underneath security blanket.
Has a good knack for finding the soft spots in spaces and settling in zone coverage. Most of his catches comes off play action and roll outs
into open spot.
- Also he is proven tough and durable. Never misses games. Took lickings and kept on Ticking.
In the way that he is being used in this offense, he moves the chains and reliable on third and short.

- Minuses - He's limited athletically, not one to hit the middle deep seams, or regularly separate on-on-one vs the better coverage LBs and safeties.
Receiving skill set is more a product of the scheme and system in how he is used, than as he is a featured core player that can juke and separate on his own.
Average to subpar blocker. both as in-line and in space. Too many blocking plays are busted both vs run, and the oft-used WR bubble screens

Jfconrow · Jan 31, 2022

I like Schultz, I’d try to keep him. If they have to tag him so be it. He played like Witten this year, not flashy but he catches the ball. I remember yelling at the tv in the playoff game to throw it to Schultz every play.

BigD_95 · Jan 31, 2022

CowboysWillRise said:
Take him. We need a TE who has a minimal standard of blocking. I was a fan, but grew sick of watching him kill drives with missed blocks. We can spend money better elsewhere. He had the ball funneled to him on a sliver platter.

I hate post like this. Shultz is a very good player and I wish we keep him. He has more value than Zeke - DLAw & probably Smith at this point in his career. But because of these bad contracts and overpaying an overrated QB we will lose an actual good productive player.

Dont act like cause we do not have the cap space that its good we are losing him

Mobinvans · Jan 31, 2022

I mean he’s ok….just ok

Starforever · Jan 31, 2022

Rayman70 said:
Randy is a prime example of low FB IQ and high graded talent. He's an idiot. He hurts us. Give me the "mudder" types any day that understand the team concept that do not get dumb penalties that cost us the games.

Idiot, low football IQ! This young man might just run circles around all of you intelligent folk.

Pentagruel · Jan 31, 2022

CalPolyTechnique said:
And Schultz did nothing his first two seasons…

I would add Jarwin did WAY more than Schultz did prior to his injury.

Jarwin hasn’t done anything except put up two good games against the giants. Madness to say he did more the Shultz. Shultz didn’t do anything his first two seasons because he never got an opportunity to play as a pass catching tight end. I think Shultz is a solid player and I’d pay him like that. If he is out of range then so be it. I would get rid of Jarwin either way. Has done nothing and can’t stay on the field.

CalPolyTechnique · Jan 31, 2022

quickccc said:
Schultz also had another true advantage over Jarwin .. he's much tougher and much more durable than Blake.
i recall one single game that Dalton hasn't missed a game because of injury, and he's taken a gallon of wicked hits and tackles,

While missed games and missed series and plays are constantly piling up with Jarwin.
The dude is soft ... too soft. We cannot count on him. We were too hasty in rushing to re-sign him.

So true bro! Most guys would strap it up and play with a torn ACL.

CowboysFaninHouston · Jan 31, 2022

CowboysWillRise said:
Not in this offense. We rely on our TEs to block too much to have a crap blocker out there.

I get your point though and agree, but if we retain him we have to retool our reliance on his blocking or fix it.

I dont know how much is due to Philbin or the TE coach, but Schultz was a better blocker than pass catcher coming out of Stanford. He isn't without hope. I'm certain I'm being unfair to an extent, but we can't re-sign him and keep doing the same.

Let's also not ignore how often the ball was funneled to him in an offense where he was the least of the defenses concerns..

the problem is our OL sucks, so we depend on the TE....pass catching, down field threat TEs are tougher to find....we can get a blocking TE in mid rounds and use him for that purpose. with the same token if a TE can only block, then when he is in the game and there is no threat of him going for a pass, then the defense can stack the line for a run and simplify their defensive scheme.

but a pass catching TE puts more pressure on a defense than a blocking TE....

quickccc · Jan 31, 2022

Jfconrow said:
I like Schultz, I’d try to keep him. If they have to tag him so be it. He played like Witten this year, not flashy but he catches the ball. I remember yelling at the tv in the playoff game to throw it to Schultz every play.

...OMG !... :facepalm:

..............

CalPolyTechnique · Jan 31, 2022

Pentagruel said:
Jarwin hasn’t done anything except put up two good games against the giants. Madness to say he did more the Shultz. Shultz didn’t do anything his first two seasons because he never got an opportunity to play as a pass catching tight end. I think Shultz is a solid player and I’d pay him like that. If he is out of range then so be it. I would get rid of Jarwin either way. Has done nothing and can’t stay on the field.

It’s madness to arbitrarily dismiss real game production.

Jarwin was not the starter during those years, so how does the excuse for Schultz not apply to Jarwin?

Rayman70 · Jan 31, 2022

Starforever said:
Idiot, low football IQ! This young man might just run circles around all of you intelligent folk.

Off the field, book smarts, YES. But we are talking NFL football, on the field. Does he understand the concept of team play? Rules? Is he self disciplined? Everything he has shown tells us NO. We are not asking him to do calculus. We just want him to not hurt the team.,

Rayman70 · Jan 31, 2022

jrumann59 said:
We have plenty of downfield targets, the underneath stuff is what is lacking, since they do not use the backs effectively for the short to medium stuff. They should be using pollard in Beasley role due to his short area quickness, and with his speed he could excel in open field stuff unlike Beasley.

Dak gets greedy. Hero Ball never works. Mahomes even saw this. Take what is given 2 ya and get to the next play. Dak better learn this. He was pressing way too much.

Rayman70 · Jan 31, 2022

Jfconrow said:
I like Schultz, I’d try to keep him. If they have to tag him so be it. He played like Witten this year, not flashy but he catches the ball. I remember yelling at the tv in the playoff game to throw it to Schultz every play.

I'm in your camp on this. He converts 3rd downs and is a chain mover. That is very valuable to any team. Seems like he is open all the time but Dak gets greedy and goes for the chunk yards. This dude is very under appreciated. Its a shame. We cannot afford to lose him.

Pentagruel · Jan 31, 2022

CalPolyTechnique said:
It’s madness to arbitrarily dismiss real game production.

Jarwin was not the starter during those years, so how does the excuse for Schultz not apply to Jarwin?

I don’t blame either Jarwin or Shultz for not producing those years. I’m just not going to anoint Jarwin because he hasn’t shown anything, while Shultz has actually produced in the following years. Could Jarwin turn out good if he can stay healthy? Maybe. But I think it’s far from a certainty and with his injury problems I don’t think he’s worth keeping around. I wouldn’t break the bank for Shultz but I would be interested in keeping him for the right price as I think he’s an important player on the offense.

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