Speculation: Cooper/Gregory

CouchCoach · Feb 4, 2022

If they let Cooper go, that sets them up for another 1st round WR. They are not going to let their prize be without weapons.

The question is with WR being a deep position, what would a team be willing to give up for Cooper?

noshame · Feb 4, 2022

Draft the kid from Georgia and move Gregory inside = dead QBs :thumbup:

Stash · Feb 4, 2022

Cowboyny said:
I think each passing day, it's looking more likely that the team moves on from Amari Cooper this offseason. Heard Bobby Belt, who is a legitimate insider with the team, hearing from people inside the building could be a real possibility. If this has any legs, you would think they look to resign Gallup (maybe a 1yr deal) and Wilson, perhaps even Malik Turner.

As for Gregory, Stephen reportedly had a good conversion with his agent at the Senior Bowl. He stated that the goodwill from the years with his client with go a long way with a contract extension. This is positive news and is looking likely he returns with the Cowboys. I have said before, would be surprised if he didn't return. They just invested so much time with this player to allow him to walk.

My gut feeling is that they let Lawrence go as well. I think Gregory stats but Lawrence and Cooper - two big money deals - are moved off the books.

darthseinfeld · Feb 4, 2022

CouchCoach said:
If they let Cooper go, that sets them up for another 1st round WR. They are not going to let their prize be without weapons.

The question is with WR being a deep position, what would a team be willing to give up for Cooper?

We would pretty much have to draft a WR high, if we dont make a significant FA signing. And Gallup isnt a good option considering he will likely miss time, and has been an injury prone player. Without Cooper, we are pretty weak at WR, even if we retain both Gallup and Wilson.

I think the smarter player is to look at players in the draft in the top 100 with an eye to move on from Cooper after 2022

darthseinfeld · Feb 4, 2022

noshame said:
Draft the kid from Georgia and move Gregory inside = dead QBs

Gregory is way to small to move inside

MountaineerCowboy · Feb 4, 2022

Ranching said:
He's actually a very smart guy, but the undisciplined play in the playoffs was very disappointing. He really hadn't shown that during the regular season.

Yeah, he's so smart that he wasted like 6 years of his career, could've threw away setting his family up for life, all because he couldn't stop breaking the rules.

It doesn't matter if you think the rule was dumb or not (it was a dumb rule). The rules are still the rules. He wouldn't even be playing right now if the NFL didn't rightfully change things.

morasp · Feb 4, 2022

Losing Cooper could alter our draft plans. If possible, Gregory needs to be resigned. You can't have enough pass rushers.

Ken · Feb 4, 2022

darthseinfeld said:
The thing is we dont need to get rid of him for cap purposes. His contract is a very easy one to renegotiate. He didnt have any restructure triggers built in to his contract like others did. They would have had to renegotiate with him to do that. Last year there was no reason too

It is easy to renegotiate but the question is....is that something we want to do with a player who could be in decline?

20 million is a lot of money for a good, not great, wr. My concern is the lack of big YAC this year. In years past, we say him running for tds after catches making huge plays. I can't think of one this year.

This could be another Zeke situation ..clear decline in explosion... can't give him more money to have to eat in coming years.

I prefer to trade him to get something for him and then we will need to cushion the blow either in FA or the draft.

JBS · Feb 4, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Cooper is going to be a big loss if we let him go. CeeDee, unless he makes huge improvements, does not seem like he can be the #1 guy and still produce.

Gregory hasn't earned another contract as far as I'm concerned. Outside of a couple games he was invisible and made a stupid amount of mental mistakes in games causing penalties.

I'd think twice about getting rid of Cooper, but I'd let Gregory walk.

First of all, I agree that losing Cooper will be a big loss. However, Lamb has plenty of room to grow. If he doesn’t get better it would be more shocking than if he does.

darthseinfeld · Feb 4, 2022

Ken said:
It is easy to renegotiate but the question is....is that something we want to do with a player who could be in decline?

20 million is a lot of money for a good, not great, wr. My concern is the lack of big YAC this year. In years past, we say him running for tds after catches making huge plays. I can't think of one this year.

This could be another Zeke situation ..clear decline in explosion... can't give him more money to have to eat in coming years.

I prefer to trade him to get something for him and then we will need to cushion the blow either in FA or the draft.

You renegotiate, you arent paying 20m per year. It will probably be a similar structure to his first two years which was 17m per year. They way his contract was structured, Cooper was never going to be a 20m AAV guy. It would probably be another 17 per year, 40M guarenteed with an out in 2024 with 6 million dead cap

JBS · Feb 4, 2022

Miller · Feb 4, 2022

JBS said:

Agree with this. You can’t keep everyone. We have too many bloated contracts. Coopers being terrible. I acknowledge his talent and I acknowledge we don’t use it so why pay premium for WR2 numbers?

CouchCoach · Feb 4, 2022

Do not underestimate Cooper's comments about targets during this season to be passed over. He sure didn't sound like he was on the Prescott/Moore wagon, particularly Prescott.

Earlier in the season he said he felt he was the best WR in the league and the lack of targets follows that? He might just be ready to move on himself.

America's Cowboy · Feb 4, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Outside of the most important game of the season during the most important moment of the game, you mean?

Who cares? We all watched him laugh while making stupid penalties on a stop or go home drive in the most important game of the season.

His production is not good enough to make up for all the bonehead stuff. I know ya'll thought he was going to be All-Pro this year and all, but he's just not very good and will probably want more then he's worth.

But have no fear! Jerry will probably 100% give him more than he's worth regardless. Then you'll get to complain about him not being worth it in a year or so.

No, only you and your few followers will complain as usual.

Romo_To_Dez · Feb 4, 2022

They're going to let Cooper go and he's either going to go to a division rival or a strong playoff contending NFC team with our luck. :facepalm:

shabazz · Feb 4, 2022

Ranching said:
He's actually a very smart guy, but the undisciplined play in the playoffs was very disappointing. He really hadn't shown that during the regular season.

…..I wouldn’t say he’s “very smart”….he only scored a 28 on the Wonderlic test but he did score higher than our quarterback who scored a 25….go figure

Good Morning , Ranchero!

MountaineerCowboy · Feb 4, 2022

America's Cowboy said:
No, only you and your few followers will complain as usual.

Well, there's only a few here that actually know what they're talking about.

You're not included in those in case you were wondering.

You pay attention to what we say, because you probably learn things you didn't know, and respond accordingly like an immature teenager. We don't pay attention to what you say. That's what separates us that know things from ... well... you.

Sydla · Feb 4, 2022

CouchCoach said:
If they let Cooper go, that sets them up for another 1st round WR. They are not going to let their prize be without weapons.

The question is with WR being a deep position, what would a team be willing to give up for Cooper?

Sadly, where they are picking, there could be quite a few WRs available at 24 who could be best player available.

Ken · Feb 4, 2022

darthseinfeld said:
You renegotiate, you arent paying 20m per year. It will probably be a similar structure to his first two years which was 17m per year. They way his contract was structured, Cooper was never going to be a 20m AAV guy. It would probably be another 17 per year, 40M guarenteed with an out in 2024 with 6 million dead cap

Reno would be guaranteeing his base salary at some rate to lower his cap number.

It would spread that amount converted to bonus over the remaining years of his contract. Considering his last two years have 20 million bases....you are in a worse situation the next year and following year.

They will not renegotiate his deal, IMO.

America's Cowboy · Feb 4, 2022

darthseinfeld said:
Where are going getting those restructure numbers?

"If the Cowboys restructured Cooper's deal they could free up as much as $12.5 million in savings. If they released him before June 1 they would save $16 million, and they could get as much as $20 million in savings if they designated him as a post-June 1 release." - Jan 27, 2022

https://www.audacy.com/1053thefan/s...e-books-how-can-the-cowboys-free-up-cap-space

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