Cowboys insider: Amari & Tank “likely to be gone” next season

Mr_437 · Feb 4, 2022

bewp7 said:
if u sign a qb to a franchise contract u best not miss

cowboys missed

now they pay the price

Exactly. They paid the QB top now it's time to purge the other high dollar players to compensate, awesome I know. They paid #4 now let him carry the offense, I mean, he's the star.

Mr_437 · Feb 4, 2022

DUO_CORE said:
Coop may still be a great receiver, it's just hard to tell.
It'd be like if Ja'Marr Chase had Tim Tebow as his QB. We'd think Chase is a good wr, but it'd be hard to tell.

CowboyoWales · Feb 4, 2022

black label said:
if they cut coop they better find a guy that can cut as quick as him dak needs open receivers

You've found the solution, Coop's cutting too quickly hence alot of throws appear to be thrown behind the receivers.....maybe if we get slower receivers then Dak can find them

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The reality is that Dak is here and will be for the next 4 years, are we able to afford a $22m WR that is only connecting 65% of the time? If there was no other issues and we were ok CAP wise then fine, however, we need to make financial decisions based on value.

RoboQB · Feb 4, 2022

Remember when the GM said we didn't need stars at WR?
By mid-season that was proven to be ridiculous so they got Cooper.
Then drafted Gallup. Then drafted Lamb.

Then they gave $160 million to a QB that doesn't read defenses.

Now they're going back to seemingly not needing stars at WR... smh/lol

RoboQB · Feb 4, 2022

RomoIsGod said:
Coop fell off second half of season. He's not worth his contract. And D Law hasn't done crap since he got paid and everyone here knows it.

He can't catch what's not being thrown to him.

CCBoy · Feb 4, 2022

Doomsday, some good discussion going on here. Both players are leaders on the team. Where does team chemistry and pay for play divide? Some crunching considerations, but the window of opportunity exists here and now. If not, then heads and players will be severed in drama filled activities...

conner01 · Feb 4, 2022

Trajan said:
Then I'm not sure how you replace him. Draft someone and hope they can be as good in year 1 ? A FA, they will want lots of $.

The best option is to push the $ out, look, we are screwed until Dak and Zeke's contracts are finally paid off in 5 years anyway. It is win now, cause it looks bad in the future. If you can't get Dak pro-bowl caliber players at every position we are done. No Amari means no #1 WR.

We can easily move on from Zeke after next year
If you cut cooper you go get a FA so it doesn’t save you money overall but would first year
You restructure Dak to clear cap space
Cutting Dlaw in order to keep Gregory doesn’t do much for you really
Let Gregory walk and put parsons in his place then draft a LB or two because we won’t have much with LVE leaving and parsons moving
Some want to blow it up and start over but you can’t cut Dak, and if you gut the defense you can’t win

Tommy · Feb 4, 2022

da_boyz_mk said:
If Gregory is the team's top priority they are more stupid than I thought.

Gregory is a moron. That 4th quarter tackle of an OL in the closing minutes when the defense was using timeouts and trying to get the ball back told me a lot about him. He is a football idiot. Let him go.

Absolutely zero situational awareness.

black label · Feb 4, 2022

CowboyoWales said:
You've found the solution, Coop's cutting too quickly hence alot of throws appear to be thrown behind the receivers.....maybe if we get slower receivers then Dak can find them .

The reality is that Dak is here and will be for the next 4 years, are we able to afford a $22m WR that is only connecting 65% of the time? If there was no other issues and we were ok CAP wise then fine, however, we need to make financial decisions based on value.

CTcowboy203 · Feb 4, 2022

Both will NOT be gone. If I had to pick one I’d say Lawrence is gone. Do not think there’s a chance both are- and I know the salary cap ramifications

sdfidaho · Feb 4, 2022

RoboQB said:
Remember when the GM said we didn't need stars at WR?
By mid-season that was proven to be ridiculous so they got Cooper.
Then drafted Gallup. Then drafted Lamb.

Then they gave $160 million to a QB that doesn't read defenses.

Now they're going back to seemingly not needing stars at WR... smh/lol

Redsfan_83 · Feb 4, 2022

Unlike money, receivers do grow on trees. That being said why would anyone give us $1 for his bloated contract?

Pentagruel · Feb 4, 2022

stasheroo said:
Two things about that:

The Giants clearly regret the move, so it's a cautionary tale for the rest of the league

New York didn't give up draft equity along with that big contract

Without draft pick compensation.

And Adams numbers are so much better overall.

https://stathead.com/football/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1=AdamDa01&p1yrfrom=2015&p1yrto=2021&player_id2=CoopAm00&p2yrfrom=2015&p2yrto=2021#:~:text=Export Data,90

I actually think that the sheer number of wide receivers available - and Adams especially - make it much less likely that a team would trade for Cooper. But hey, I'd love to be wrong about it and see the team get something, I just have no expectations that they could.

I think the bottom line is Cooper’s contract is market value for his production. The fact we traded a first for him has no bearing on that. We traded that 1st rounder because our offense was hopeless before he got here, and it changed dramatically for the better when he did. He has been worth the draft pick and the contract in my opinion. I think it’s disingenuous to argue otherwise.

With that said, I think there are legitimate reasons to potentially move on from him this season, though I would prefer to keep him and basically run it back with smaller tweaks to the roster. We do get a lot of cap relief if we cut him and if we have a legitimate plan to replace his production then I could agree with the move. What I think is idiotic though, is cutting Cooper, re-signing Gallup and or Wilson and expecting everything to be fine. That is exactly what we did before Cooper got here and it’s what required us to trade that first round pick in the first place.

big dog cowboy · Feb 4, 2022

Keep both. Save the resources needed to replace them and fix the OL.

DallasDW00ds0n · Feb 4, 2022

Cooper can be replaced with guys already here, but Lawrence is a pretty savvy DE that’s somehow undervalued by fans; price tag is definitely high though.

Regardless, we can probably take the Cooper loss and move on but Lawrence won’t be as easy to replace as many casually suggest

3rdEyewarrior · Feb 4, 2022

conner01 said:
If you cut him then you have to replace him
Same with Dlaw
I’m all for cutting cooper if there is a plan to replace him but lamb and turner aren’t the answer

I’m not. I’m all for paying players what they’re worth. D law is worth 11 million. Dak is worth24. Cooper is worth 15-20

birdwells1 · Feb 4, 2022

CowboyoWales said:
Wilson and Pollard (and Turner, but some sample) all had higher Ctch% than Coops. When is he going to do to earn the $22m, or what is he doing for the money, other than occupying the CB1? We can't afford to retain players based on reputation and it's not as if he and Dak are a combination made in heaven. If the stats indicate we could get similar production out of lesser names for less money then he's expendable.

ps....i'm a fan of Coop, but we cant afford him for what he does.

He was ranked 49th in targets that's note a Cooper issue that's a Dak/Moore issue. Also you can't compare slots wr and rb to outside wrs in catch percentage.

Typhus · Feb 4, 2022

birdwells1 said:
Who's going to replace Cooper? CeeDee ain't ready.

Bet Dak thinks about that.

Typhus · Feb 4, 2022

nightrain said:
Cooper has to go. The problem with losing DLaw, even though he is overpaid, is the drop off in talent the cowboys will have on the DL, even if they keep Gregory, which looks like the way they are going. Jerry will sell one bad investment for a loss and parlay that into another bad investment. I can't get over how inept the Jones Boys are with roster management.

They might all be gone, Coop, Dlaw, Gregory.
Why try and retain any part of what is not working, and reinvest in bad production?
Would be a better way IMO, but there will be restructures and future bad money being applied to future bad performance contracts.
Jerry has to appease the masses that cant stand seeing the "we like our players" type ever leave this roster.

tyke1doe · Feb 4, 2022

Cooper might as well move on. Dak can't get him the ball consistently for whatever the reason (if it's Dak or Amari giving up on routes), and if Cooper thinks it's Dak, he's going to be sulking. Might as well go someplace where you can excel, wherever that might be. Ravens?

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