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2 suspicious things on last play in Dallas WC game
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Jake
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The NFL makes billions, every year, regardless of the outcomes. The only thing that could screw that up is if they got caught fixing games.
The Cincinnati bleepin' Bengals, with one of the smallest fan bases in the NFL, are going to the Super Bowl. Who would rig that outcome?
It sucks that the Cowboys are now an overhyped joke. I share your frustration. But stop looking for external boogeymen. They're in house.
Miller
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Refs didn’t manipulate anything. Your basically.creating an agenda out of nothing. Hundreds of these plays have happened and everyone pundit knows the rules. We failed. It’s easy, The refs didn’t make sure we didn’t have a last play…we made sure we didn’t have 2 last plays. Dumbest fans ever
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Yeah, it couldn't be during the broadcast. CBS had the broadcast with Romo/Nantz and Pereira works for Fox. So not sure where you're seeing this because it wasn't during the broadcast.
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Ok I know dallas bungled the last play, and they might not have scored anyway if they had 1 more play.
And they had a chance on previous possession.
But 2 things I find suspicious, that makes it look like refs were trying to help SF win.
1. the ref furthest from the spot where dak went down, was the only ref that came to spot the ball.
Is he the only one that is supposed to do that? or can other refs do that in that situation?
I think in another game someone said another ref did it.
2.the ref when he got to the ball, after dallas players did not know to let him thru lol,
but he gets to ball grabs it, then he wastes time moving it back about 8 inches lol.
Doing that meant center had to adjust backwards, so did dak and rest of players.
Mike peria sp , said the spot of the ball doesnt matter on a clock play like that. just touch it or put it down
and get out of way for team to clock it.
After the clock, then refs can determine proper spot of los, and that will be used for the last play.
So why did the ref move the ball back???????
Well the only thing that makes sense is he was killing the time, that took around 2 seconds at least.
Had he just touched the ball then there would have been 1 second left when it was clocked,
and dallas gets a chance on throw to EZ.
But it seems to me the powers that be didnt want dallas to have that chance.
if dallas had scored the game score would have been "over" no score there and it is "under"
plus if the money on dallas was for them to win, and under, then not letting dallas have another chance there
gave a 2 way win on the gambling angles, and a dallas score/td there means vegas loses on under, and if
dallas were to win in OT then they would lose other bets like point spread.
And maybe gambling comes out better if SF wins, because as we now know SF goes to GB and wins
a game most thought they would lose.
I dont think it is stupid refs, or sloppy reffing lol , I think it was intentional.
I also think the cowboys in their stupidity helped them to do it.
There also should have been a booth review, which there wasnt, I find that odd for an ending like that.
I know time was gone by time ball hit ground on the clock, but still a booth review was needed.
But no booth review, NY did not get involved like they usually do so why not??
I think if dallas had not screwed it up so bad and had time for 1 more play, and if they threw a td pass,there would have been a holding call, so they have to do it again, and if they score again, then another penalty lol.
The nearest other ref was near the grassy knoll.
The ref who got the ball has a nephew surnamed Redurpaz.
Now, me playmates, spell that name backwards and you get Roger Gooddell, sort of.
Coincidence? I think not!
CalPolyTechnique
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Without a doubt.
khiladi
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No, your position is in that thread, just like I stated. I summarized it perfectly in that thread when it ended with the correct concluding of me ‘owning you’.
The fact is, like I stated in that thread to hit the definitive nail in the coffin, you entered into my conversation with another person and as usual, and you started pretending like I was trying to debate your position, and not the other way around.
The fact is you tried manipulated the argument to claim I stated the ref could place it anywhere he wanted, which I never stated, meaning you set up a straw man to argue. I never said the ref could, for example place it at the goal-line. In fact, what I actually stated was that accuracy of a foot or so doesn’t matter in that situation, because the emphasis is on TIME FACTOR by the ref. A foot here or there has ZERO or almost NILL implications to a last second Hail Mary.
Further, as I continue to demonstrate, like in this larr thread, is you constantly contradict yourself like when you stated that the ref in the Cowboys-49ers game did actually spot it where HE WANTED, by giving the Cowboys a generous spot. You did it also, because let’s be real, you had no clue what the implications of all your contradictory logic was, when you stated that the Cowboys-Rams game can’t be used as an example because the ref was ‘wrong in his spotting of the ball’.
At least now you’ve slightly changed your position by saying the ref screwed up because of the time factor, meaning you are slowly acknowledging that the ref completely botched the play.
It’s OK.. Just admit the ref screwed up. It’s not a big deal when you do.
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What a complete a crock…
Your ENTIRE argument hinges on “Buh Romo said all the ref has to do is touch it!!!”
And in total irony of you now trying to tweak your argument “oh, the spot of ball doesn’t matter if it’s like a foot or so….it’s about time.”
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LOL..
Like I said in that thread and re-quoted in that thread, because you know, the Internet great in that the chain of proof remains, there was no ‘tweak’. It’s there for everybody to read on how I owned you then re-summarized how I owned you ending that thread discussion.
I mean just admit it, it’s not hard. The ref completely botched his job. That’s all there is to it. No need to try and defend a guy who was 25 yards away, comes crashing into the QB and Center, completely rushed, evidencing he had no idea what he was doing, proceeded to spot the ball twice, the first time actually more accurate, further demonstrating he was *****ing his job, only for time to expire.
Unless he’s your family member or your boy, it shouldn’t be difficult. It’s just what it is. Dude completely screwed up.
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I mean, how many of us got that feeling with the cowboys lack of effort in the first quarter in the game, that we thought, "Oh it is one of these kind of games" where the cowboys play uninspired flat football and will lose?
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The ref can't assume a spike play. Sure that was likely, but the likely thing isn't what always happens, and it's not the job of the ref to make assumptions on what the next offensive play call will be anyway.
What if they didn't actually spike the ball and ran a play and scored, just barely getting the point of the ball into the end zone? Would they disallow the TD because the spot on the play should have actually been 1 yard further back? Of course not. When they spot the ball that is the spot. There is no retroactive correction after the next play.
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ok it wasnt mike P, it was their ref analyst. and it is in the broadcast, I will find a clip.
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I thought about what if they had run a fake spike, which if dallas was really prepared they should have done.
The snap was in time, but the clock ran out as dak was spiking it. The thing to do in that situation is run a play , fake spike is best.
But if they do spike it they could respot the ball to correct spot, no one would care.
If they run a play instead then the play would count, and 1 yd is not going to matter, except on a long fg try.
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The only thing that could screw that up is if they got caught fixing games. ....they cant get caught , even if they did no one would believe it , because they
dont want to.
The Cincinnati bleepin' Bengals, with one of the smallest fan bases in the NFL, are going to the Super Bowl. Who would rig that outcome? ........
It is perfect, as no one is going to understand it.
I said before it isnt about the teams, it is about where the money is in gambling.
I will predict a bengal SB win now as the money will probably be on the rams, though I have no way of knowing that is the case.
There is also the over under. I will say now it will be under.I am just guessing, as I dont know if people will take the bengals and points, and they may
take the under. The safe bet would be to take bengals and points.
and yeah they make billions already, but people are greedy, especially guys with enough money to buy a nfl team.
Heck look at herr jerry, would you say he is greedy, and wants more billions?
or is he now satisfied with what he has ?But stop looking for external boogeymen. They're in house.......yes in the case of dallas being a screwed up team , they are. jones boys and their coaches.
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I don’t know why people think it’s out of the realm of possibility that with millions of dollars on the line that some shady stuff could occur, that being said sf was the better team that day regardless if the refs but all y’all jumping on the op for his take are just as ridiculous as y’all think the op is. Stop acting like Vegas and the nfl are holier than thou cause you look really nieve
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I think some people are fighting, scratching and clawing so hard, in an attempt to not make this into one of the biggest choke moments in team history. To me it rivaled the Tony Romo Seattle moment.
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