Dear Dak Haters

NotForLong · Feb 1, 2022

Bigdog said:
I agree with you somewhat. What I disagree with you is that football is the ultimate team sport. That distinction goes to the game of soccer. Everybody is the qb on the field, there are no timeouts, you touch the ball for only 2 1/2 minutes out of 90 mins game so it means that for 97 1/2 mins you are helping your teammates and making off ball runs for them, the players control the momentum of the game, you only get 3 subs so if you already use yours and a player gets injured you play with a man down, coaches are basically spectators until halftime. There is lot more that makes the game the ultimate team sport. Football is team sport but not the any where near what the game of soccer is.

Plus Legally soccer is a Sport
And The NFL is Entertainment . . . College Football is a sport . . . HS Football is a sport . . . but the NFL is strickly ENTERTAINMENT . . .

As in Entertainment purposes only

thunderpimp91 · Feb 1, 2022

NotForLong said:
Plus Legally soccer is a Sport
And The NFL is Entertainment . . . College Football is a sport . . . HS Football is a sport . . . but the NFL is strickly ENTERTAINMENT . . .

As in Entertainment purposes only

Here’s a whole thread to talk about the NFL being rigged. But this thread is for the adults who want to actually discuss the team.
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/how-about-that-rigged-nfl.492917/page-3#post-11720158

NotForLong · Feb 1, 2022

thunderpimp91 said:
Here’s a whole thread to talk about the NFL being rigged. But this thread is for the adults who want to actually discuss the team.
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/how-about-that-rigged-nfl.492917/page-3#post-11720158

Little small minded children like yourself can jump to any conclusion you like . . . I never mentioned it was rigged . . . I said its classified L-E-G-A-L-L-Y. As Entertainment

What's your problem?

pansophy · Feb 1, 2022

Mannix said:
Dak has enough talent around him to go deep in the playoffs....unfortunately, he can't hit the broad side of a barn. And for the 10,000th time....you cannot learn to be accurate....so PLEASE....quit praying and waiting for it suddenly to happen.

Do you truly believe that Dak changing his throwing motion hasn’t improved his accuracy. Yes his form can regress under pressure, but he has improved a lot in accuracy.

Captain-Crash · Feb 2, 2022

until he gets scared by any pressure and panic and can't see the field, other than that, he's awesome.

Steve007 · Feb 6, 2022

cmoney23 said:
I have argued for years on this forum and elsewhere that football is the ultimate team game.

Time and Time again, "internet experts" keep telling me "it's the QB... it's the QB"

Can you "eXpErTs" explain to me how this can be true when the exact same QB in Matt Stafford that "couldn't win a playoff game" is now in the Super Bowl? Could it be that his TEAM is in the Super Bowl and he didn't have that level of TEAM when in Detroit?

How are Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes sitting at home? Could it be that their TEAMS didn't play well enough to win?

Dak is more than capable of going to and winning the super bowl. But HE and the TEAM have to put it all together.

An elite qb can overcome a bad O-Line (Joe burrow) and win. An elite qb elevates the players around him. The QBs you mentioned have won superbowls, MVP, and multiple playoff games so that comparison doesn't hold water. A great team can win with a bus driver QB, but they have to have elite talent around him. If you spend a good chunk of you cap on a bus driver the odds are not in you favor.

Steve007 · Feb 6, 2022

daboyzruleperiod said:
Doesn't matter how many weapons a quarterback has when he doesn't have the proper coaches on the sidelines. Shanahan made Jimmy G look good as did McVay with Stafford as did Reid with Mahomes as did Taylor with Burrow as did Belichick with Mac. All top notch head coaches.

Rogers won a superbowl with Mike McCarthy. So Rogers won with a sub par coach.

Steve007 · Feb 6, 2022

GINeric said:
Exactly... I remember reading a couple of posts here from a few "genius wanna be" uninformed folks who claimed if we had Rodgers, Wilson or Brady, we would beat the 49ers, we would be in the championship game, we would win the Superbowl, etc.

Rodgers loss to the same 49ers team Dak loss to, Brady got sent home, and Wilson hasn't done anything significant without the Legion of Boom.

But according to the "knowledgeable" logic of a few "know it alls", I guess that means Jimmy G is better than the other quarterbacks I've just mentioned...

Besides fanatical Dak fans who in the NFL world thinks Dak is as good as Rogers?

IceBowler · Feb 6, 2022

You want to know the truth of this? It isn't a QB thing at all - regardless of the team. It is a "Pass Rush" thing, pure and simple. In the NFL, all the QBs can kill you if you can't pressure them - none of them play well when they're getting knocked around or forced to do something they're not comfortable with. Dak, for whatever reason, gives himself even less time than he actually has .. seeing ghosts, reacting to pressure that's not there, or freezing up and holding the ball.

That's on him.

GINeric · Feb 7, 2022

Steve007 said:
Besides fanatical Dak fans who in the NFL world thinks Dak is as good as Rogers?

I've never heard any Dak fans say that Dak is as good as Rodgers. Anybody with a football IQ knows thats not the case. So where did you hear or see Dak fans saying this? Link??

thunderpimp91 · Feb 7, 2022

GINeric said:
I've never heard any Dak fans say that Dak is as good as Rodgers. Anybody with a football IQ knows thats not the case. So where did you hear or see Dak fans saying this? Link??

I'm not so sure about that. You make a post about Dak not being a top 5 QB and you'll get 10+ pages pretty easily.

GINeric · Feb 7, 2022

thunderpimp91 said:
I'm not so sure about that. You make a post about Dak not being a top 5 QB and you'll get 10+ pages pretty easily.

I've never heard or read anybody saying Dak was as good as Rodgers though... im trying to figure out where that came from.

john van brocklin · Feb 7, 2022

cmoney23 said:
I have argued for years on this forum and elsewhere that football is the ultimate team game.

Time and Time again, "internet experts" keep telling me "it's the QB... it's the QB"

Can you "eXpErTs" explain to me how this can be true when the exact same QB in Matt Stafford that "couldn't win a playoff game" is now in the Super Bowl? Could it be that his TEAM is in the Super Bowl and he didn't have that level of TEAM when in Detroit?

How are Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes sitting at home? Could it be that their TEAMS didn't play well enough to win?

Dak is more than capable of going to and winning the super bowl. But HE and the TEAM have to put it all together.

Its simple:
With a salary cap every player on the team has to play up to their contract, especially the high dollar ones.
If they don't, you cant be real successful.

thunderpimp91 · Feb 7, 2022

john van brocklin said:
Its simple:
With a salary cap every player on the team has to play up to their contract, especially the high dollar ones.
If they don't, you cant be real successful.

Ehhhhh sort of. I get what you're saying, and you certainly are not completely wrong, but its not true that every player has to live up to every dime of their contract. The NFL cap for most teams gives quite a bit of room for error. Even the Rams are paying over $20 Million to Jared Goff this year and they made the superbowl. Dak's contract is an issue, but its also combined with the fact that Jerry has made mistake after mistake. Both can be true.

thunderpimp91 · Feb 7, 2022

GINeric said:
I've never heard or read anybody saying Dak was as good as Rodgers though... im trying to figure out where that came from.

Bro....literally you in the " Any chance dallas trades Dak for Rodgers?" thread you said you would take Dak over Rodgers. I get there may be more to the context of your post, but you cant honestly have the opinion of "I've never heard anybody say Dak was as good as Rodgers" then dog on Rodgers and say you wouldnt trade Dak for him in another thread.

"So trade for a qb who chokes in the playoffs??? LOL!!! Im so glad you don't evaluate talent for the Cowboys. I wouldn't. This game is played to win championships, not just being able to boast about making it to the playoffs. Im pretty sure nobody was trying to replace Rodgers after his first 5 years either. Thats why its so comical people want Dak gone after just 5 and a half years of actual game play.

THIS year, Dak has to really prove himself. Hopefully, the team helps him out by NOT leading the league in penalties."

john van brocklin · Feb 7, 2022

thunderpimp91 said:
Ehhhhh sort of. I get what you're saying, and you certainly are not completely wrong, but its not true that every player has to live up to every dime of their contract. The NFL cap for most teams gives quite a bit of room for error. Even the Rams are paying over $20 Million to Jared Goff this year and they made the superbowl. Dak's contract is an issue, but its also combined with the fact that Jerry has made mistake after mistake. Both can be true.[/QUOTE

Yep, I was speaking generally.
The more players that are playing up to their contract the better your chance for success.

Toro9 · Feb 7, 2022

After the Niners loss I wasn't happy with him as the QB and even voted against him in the poll. However, now that some time has passed I remembered how solid he's been throughout most of his career. That leads me to the educated conclusion that he didn't just turn into a bad QB the last half of the 21 season. Something happened. It could've been his calf but I doubt it.

I think opposing DCs figured out a formula in the play calling. These guys are paid millions of dollars to essentially be mathematicians and scientists and the better ones beat the 2nd year perennial third-string QB we have as an OC.

leeblair · Feb 7, 2022

Ken said:
Please explain how he is #5 all-time in completion percentage in NFL history if he is so inaccurate.

This should be good lol

He can't hit a barn door when the pressure is on, so the opposing team gets a big lead.
After it's too late and the defense is soft he racks up big yards.
All you needed to see was Dak throwing the ball into the ground with Zeke wide open on 4th down to answer your question.
But you don't want an answer; you want someone to kiss Dak's feet.
Your a Dak fan, not a Cowboys fan.

zrinkill · Feb 7, 2022

I understand this thread ..... I really do.

I am the biggest Dak fan on this board .......

But ....... Dak did not play well at the end of the year and there is no excuse for it.

On his pregame peptalk to the team he is always screaming "we have to be our best every minute and show these guys this is our house" and way to many times this year he came out flat 10 minutes after giving that speech.

I am tired of the excuses

CowboysFaninHouston · Feb 7, 2022

RoboQB said:
Joe Burrow has won more playoff games in 15 days than Dak has in 6 years.

(Just throwing another log on the fire... lol)

and this means what exactly? Joe Burrow is better...we know..

and please do me a favor, reach into your back pocket, pull out a first over all pick card and give it to Jerry. please make sure its a year a QB like burrows comes out. thanks in advance

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