Did you think there were bad calls/non-calls in the Super Bowl?

Hawkeye19

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I disagree w/ Collinsworth and Michaels. Dude was holding Kupp while the ball was in the air. Textbook PI.

Really? This contact happens on every passing down in the NFL. And they have been “letting them play” all game long and decide to flag THIS?! Nah. This is textbook “ticky tack” “mickey mouse” and “bushleague” officiating

 

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This isn't a "how dare my team get hozed" kind of post, but I did think there were some bad calls or missed calls in the game.

On that long TD pass the Bengals did, the WR clearly was guilty of a facemask just before he scored a touchdown. Then in the Rams final drive, there was a bogus holding call that extended the drive. I think it was on a third down, but I'll have to watch the game again to be sure. To me it looked like simply a great defensive play where the Cincy player reached around and batted the ball down.

Again, I'm not saying the Rams didn't deserve to win. The missed facemask clearly hurt them. I'm just curious of others agree with me that there was a non-called facemask and then later on a bogus holding call.
The Refs are too inconsistent and have way too much power to control a games outcome. I think they flat out missed the call on the Ramsey getting face masked and upon watching the replay knew they missed it so they just decided to make up for it on that crap holding call on the great defensive play by the Bengals LB. The problem is there are too dam many rules to favor offensive players even little touches or grabs that really don't affect the play.
 

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Really? This contact happens on every passing down in the NFL. And they have been “letting them play” all game long and decide to flag THIS?! Nah. This is textbook “ticky tack” “mickey mouse” and “bushleague” officiating


You could actually see Kupp start the contact.
 

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I am, and yes. However, the call in question was actually holding, and was pretty blatant.
Yeah right! Kupp actually pushed him first. What happened to the no contact rule after 5 yards?
 

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You must have been rooting for the Bengals. That call was blatantly obvious. I would've called D Holding, but a penalty it was, and beyond any doubt.

I had no dawg in the fight K. But we can all agree that they let those fouls go for the rest of the game until they had to facilitate the Rams score. Just wanting some consistency.

I agree that the DPI /DH were fouls. The OL holding call was too much of a tic tac call.
 

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You must have been rooting for the Bengals. That call was blatantly obvious. I would've called D Holding, but a penalty it was, and beyond any doubt.
LOL Blatantly obvious? Ramsey did worse in the first quarter and stopped a would be touchdown after a huge catch by Chase. You must be in the "refs never do any wrong" camp
 

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This isn't a "how dare my team get hozed" kind of post, but I did think there were some bad calls or missed calls in the game.

On that long TD pass the Bengals did, the WR clearly was guilty of a facemask just before he scored a touchdown. Then in the Rams final drive, there was a bogus holding call that extended the drive. I think it was on a third down, but I'll have to watch the game again to be sure. To me it looked like simply a great defensive play where the Cincy player reached around and batted the ball down.

Again, I'm not saying the Rams didn't deserve to win. The missed facemask clearly hurt them. I'm just curious of others agree with me that there was a non-called facemask and then later on a bogus holding call.
There were 2 bad calls in this game.The non offensive pi missed call on Higgins was just a horrendous missed call.That’s a 7 point non call.The defensive holding call on Cincy LB’er at the goal line on Kupp shouldn’t have been called.Maybe it was a make-up call for earlier.Overall it was a pretty clean game w/ just those two calls/non calls.
 

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Take a nap goofball.
They obviously can't completely fix games. But it's hard to argue the NFL doesn't make calls to keep games close. The late call on third down was completely bogus. But it was made to keep the excitement going longer.

Just like the non pi call against the Rams a few years back against the saints. If they threw the flag, the game was over. But by not calling it, the Rams got another chance to score.
 

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I disagree w/ Collinsworth and Michaels. Dude was holding Kupp while the ball was in the air. Textbook PI.
Could be, but didn't Ramsey pull a jersey enough to pull the receiver back into him at the goal line with no call earlier in the game? It's the inconsistency, and then the calls at the critical points in the game, that make it hard to watch.
I wanted Stafford to win so I'm not upset, but the Rams got some calls which were not called the same earlier in the game. Refs seem to play a part in almost every big game.
 

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Really? This contact happens on every passing down in the NFL. And they have been “letting them play” all game long and decide to flag THIS?! Nah. This is textbook “ticky tack” “mickey mouse” and “bushleague” officiating



I did not think it was, but the call after that play yes I thought was a legit PI call. This notion that it was fixed is funny, if it was fixed why would the refs call offsetting penalties on a Rams TD on that drive? I admit refs miss calls at times, and on some missed calls the refs sometimes are not in the best position to see it clearly. Camera can give you all kinds of views from different vantage points the ref can only go by what they see.
 

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Not sure you can complain too much about the last 2 mins after the Ramsey missed call
Except Ramsey was holding (pass Interference) on the first half Cinncinatti opportunity at the goal line. And the poor spot on the first half bomb where the ball should have been at the 4 instead of the 10- Ramsey never touched him down.
 

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I did not think it was, but the call after that play yes I thought was a legit PI call. This notion that it was fixed is funny, if it was fixed why would the refs call offsetting penalties on a Rams TD on that drive? I admit refs miss calls at times, and on some missed calls the refs sometimes are not in the best position to see it clearly. Camera can give you all kinds of views from different vantage points the ref can only go by what they see.

Why is the notion games might be “fixed” crazy? Do you know how much money is flowing around between Vegas and the NFL?

The NFL classifies itself as “entertainment”. Lots of entertainment gets “directed.” Look— I’m not saying it 100% is “fixed”— but the timing and nature of those 3 penalty flags is suspicious.

And when the league flat refuses to improve it’s officiating, protects it’s refs at all costs, AND refuses to make calls reviewable despite having technology to get it right most of the time— you have to wonder why.

Always, always, always… follow the money and see who benefits.
 

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Anyone who believes this game and other games in the NFL are fixed believes in Santa. I don’t know why some of you even bother to watch the games.
Exactly....it's got to that point. I may never watch another game. Every game comes down to the last drive....... is usually decided by a call. That's not football anymore. That's politics....and who benefits most.
 

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Why is the notion games might be “fixed” crazy? Do you know how much money is flowing around between Vegas and the NFL?

The NFL classifies itself as “entertainment”. Lots of entertainment gets “directed.” Look— I’m not saying it 100% is “fixed”— but the timing and nature of those 3 penalty flags is suspicious.

And when the league flat refuses to improve it’s officiating, protects it’s refs at all costs, AND refuses to make calls reviewable despite having technology to get it right most of the time— you have to wonder why.

Always, always, always… follow the money and see who benefits.

Do you know how much money the NFL would lose if fans knew games were fixed? It would be 10 fold of anything the NFL could bring in by fixing. If I thought for 1 second that games where fixed I would not waste my time. It is entertainment but it is also sports it is not pretend like a TV show or a movie. These men put their bodies on the line, I don't see many actors having surgery year after year because of their profession. 2nd to cover everyone would have to be able not to say anything, present and past coaches and owners, players past and present would have to keep quite. No sorry but games in my opinion are not fixed. Bad calls do happen just like bad plays by players happen, poor calls from coaches happen because it is still operated by imperfect humans.
 

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Really? This contact happens on every passing down in the NFL. And they have been “letting them play” all game long and decide to flag THIS?! Nah. This is textbook “ticky tack” “mickey mouse” and “bushleague” officiating


Incorrect. Jersey tug while ball is in the air. Textbook DHolding.
 

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The one on Ramsey was major. The one on the Bengals LB was not as obvious but looked like good defense. But I was tipsy.
 

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Incorrect. Jersey tug while ball is in the air. Textbook DHolding.

Not when they have not been calling it for 98% of the rest of the game. Refs set the tone of what is allowed much like umps set a strike zone in baseball. Players figure out the parameters and adjust early, refs should then remain fair and consistent

If they call a tight game— call it tight both ways. Call a loose game— call it loose throughout.
 

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Holding calls/non calls, Pass interference offensive and defensive calls/non calls. In the first half in the end zone the Bengals WR's jersey is stretched out so far by Ramsey you would have to be blind not to see it.
 
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