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This is cherry picking 101. Rookie contracts, trades, cuts etc. That being said I would not pay Zeke what he's being paid vs an OL.

How is it cherry picking? It is every year since 2009.

There is an important point here. Zeke's 2022 CAP number is over $18 million. RB is not the important position it once was. I would gladly give up that $18 million CAP hit and sign a C and a LG, then draft a RB in the 4th round and I bet the Cowboys would have a better offense.
 

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I'm like you cut our loses.. Get rid of players not producing.. Zeke, Dlaw and Tyron...

Zeke's 2022 salary is already guaranteed. And no one will take him for the money he is paid. So cutting him buys them nothing and costs them about $11 million in CAP space in a pre-June 1 cut. Even as a post June 1 cut they save nothing. But as a post June 1 cut they will have $11 million in dead money in 2023.
 

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What about the base salaries of winning quarterbacks?

2021 Stafford - 9.5M
2020 Brady - 1,075,000
2019 Mahomes - 990,000
2018 Brady - 4M
2017 Nick Foles - 1M
 

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Cherry picking or not, the point is obvious. . U can find an effective back in any round of the draft. Every RB is replaceble.

It's a wasted pick to draft a RB in the early rounds. The best RB in the league will suck without an effective oline. But an average RB can look elite with a good line.

I'd say if either team had a good running game in the super bowl, they would have won easily.
 

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I like how Percy Harvin is on the list. He didn't even play that season. He had 3 rushes for the entirety of 2013 including the playoffs and Super Bowl.
The list is questionable to say the least. A list of any kind is not needed to know that paying a high salary to a RB is not very smart if the oline can’t run block and the RBs are not used very much in the offensive scheme. Power rushing offenses are not in style at the moment, but it only takes one team to build a good oline and have success with a smash-mouth running game and other copycat teams will follow.
 

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They paid him because Garrett needed Elliott to make his offense run and it was a do or die season for Garrett

McCarthy has already made it known he likes Zeke and wants him to play but hes not getting all the touches he used to and the offense isnt designed around him
 

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How is it cherry picking? It is every year since 2009.

It's cherry picking because it's not an actual measure of what a team's leading rusher is paid and says nothing about how much they may have actually dedicated to the position. It's a chart that shows how much the player who had the most rushing yards in the Super Bowl was paid.

Seattle had Marshawn at a $8.5M cap hit in 2013

New Orleans had Reggie Bush at $10M 13 years ago

It's not like those teams weren't paying for the RB position. They just didn't get the production necessary from those high-paid players to make the chart based on a single game.

There is an important point here. Zeke's 2022 CAP number is over $18 million. RB is not the important position it once was. I would gladly give up that $18 million CAP hit and sign a C and a LG, then draft a RB in the 4th round and I bet the Cowboys would have a better offense.

Which, according to the chart, wouldn't be a problem at all so long as Tony Pollard rushes for 1 more yard in the Super Bowl.
 

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I'd say if either team had a good running game in the super bowl, they would have won easily.
Mixon had 72 yards and an average of 4.8 per carry. That's pretty good. The Rams had absolutely no run game but still won.

Zeke averaged 4.8 against Philly's practice squad in week 18. His most since week 5 against the Giants.
 

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yes

the golden rule

never draft a rb in the top 20 (i really want to say 1st round but i can look past that as a luxury pick for really good team in the late 1st)

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never, ever ever give a rb a second contract

invest in ol instead u will be so much better off

there is exciption to all of it but the odds say it is the right call
 

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How is it cherry picking? It is every year since 2009.

There is an important point here. Zeke's 2022 CAP number is over $18 million. RB is not the important position it once was. I would gladly give up that $18 million CAP hit and sign a C and a LG, then draft a RB in the 4th round and I bet the Cowboys would have a better offense.

Jerry had visions of Emmitt Smith when he signed that contract. Instead, he got Troy Hambrick.
 

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Jerry doesn't base salaries on expected productivity during the length of the contract. He treats them like a reward for past accomplishments that includes a loyalty factor.

As well as the Cowboys have drafted recently, they negate that, in large part, with terrible salary and retention decisions. Their timing is terrible and they lose opportunities to trade some players for draft picks.

All the past 25 seasons of playoff ineptitude stems from this single factor. The top decision maker in football related matters is a stark amateur with no talent, no credentials, no previous experience or training, and especially, no accountability.
 

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Draft a RB rounds 3-5 phase Zeke out...
Zeke’s decline should phase him out, but it is much harder to phase his cap hit out. Until the oline is rebuilt, they can sign UDFA RBs that will have similar results. The only positives that Zeke offers at this point is his running style which seems to allow him to always get an extra yard or two because he seems to always falls forward on his runs and his pass blocking , which is very good for a RB. These traits are certainly not worth his cap hit.
 

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This is cherry picking 101. Rookie contracts, trades, cuts etc. That being said I would not pay Zeke what he's being paid vs an OL.

It's not cherry picking, just an incomplete statistic for total cost. Cap hit is probably better, plus amortized draft value, if he's still on his rookie contract.

But I doubt that changes the conclusion much. The point is that teams that win SBs aren't spending a lot for their RBs. That looks pretty clear from that list.
 

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The Rams should give us hope. They severely overpaid a RB in Gurley, who was useless in the Superbowl. And were still able to get back in a few years. The key is they weren't afraid to take risk, cut there losses and upgrade when opportunity presented itself.
Shazam!
 

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I like how Percy Harvin is on the list. He didn't even play that season. He had 3 rushes for the entirety of 2013 including the playoffs and Super Bowl.[/QUOTE

He had 45 yards & an 87 yard kick return in the SB. He didn't have a great career due to physical issues but when he was on, he was electric.
 

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This is cherry picking 101. Rookie contracts, trades, cuts etc. That being said I would not pay Zeke what he's being paid vs an OL.

It is not cherry picking at all. Top 5 paid rbs play for the Panthers, Saints, Cowboys, Vikings, and titans. For those keeping score at home, that is a total of ZERO playoff wins.
 
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