MadDog Russo Say's Kirk Cousins Is Better Than "Overrated" Dak Prescott And Steven A Isn't Having It

DFWJC · Feb 17, 2022

ESisback said:
Imagine what this “12 win, number one offense” team could do without all those timely penalties and with a reliable kicker!

Pretty sure if this team was in the NFC West it would not be close to a 12 win team with the #1 offense.

RonnieT24 · Feb 17, 2022

gp_cowpolk said:
It is very clear that you do not understand.

Wait.. is this the guy who keeps repeating that Dak will always fail because he was not a first round QB yet by my count NON-first round QBs have won 6? of the last 10 Super Bowls... Foles, Wilson, and of course Brady .. Starting with Kurt Warner the non first round Super Bowl champs list is pretty impressive

1999 - Warner undrafted
2001 - Brady 6th round
2002 - Brad Johnson 9th round
2003 - Brady
2004 - Brady
2009 - Brees 2nd round
2013 - Wilson 3rd round
2014 - Brady
2016 - Brady
2017 - Foles - 2nd round
2018 - Brady
2020 - Brady

So that's 12 of the last 22 Super Bowls won by guys drafted outside the first round. Yet somehow people keep clinging to this "you need to draft a QB in the first round" canard. That list has 6 names on it who say that notion is dead wrong.. what you need to do is build a really good team and get a good QB who won't screw it up and who can make a few plays when called upon.

Frankly more QBs have been carried by their teams to a championship than the other way around.. Ask Troy Aikman.. Give me the best team in the league and I'll take my chances with a top 15 or better QB. That guy in Green Bay has been the best QB in the game for the most part of the last decade and aint got diddly to show for it. Putting it all on the QB is simply going about it the wrong way.. The Patriots never put it all on Brady.. At least not for long stretches. If I'm not mistaken he had a top 5 defense in all but one of his championship runs. That always gave him the luxury of being able to play within himself, punt the ball and wait for the opportunity to exploit the opposing defense when it made a mistake.

ESisback · Feb 17, 2022

DFWJC said:
Pretty sure if this team was in the NFC West it would not be close to a 12 win team with the #1 offense.

You’re sure, I’m not.

ESisback · Feb 17, 2022

RonnieT24 said:
Wait.. is this the guy who keeps repeating that Dak will always fail because he was not a first round QB yet by my count NON-first round QBs have won 6? of the last 10 Super Bowls... Foles, Wilson, and of course Brady .. Starting with Kurt Warner the non first round Super Bowl champs list is pretty impressive

1999 - Warner undrafted
2001 - Brady 6th round
2002 - Brad Johnson 9th round
2003 - Brady
2004 - Brady
2009 - Brees 2nd round
2013 - Wilson 3rd round
2014 - Brady
2016 - Brady
2017 - Foles - 2nd round
2018 - Brady
2020 - Brady

So that's 12 of the last 22 Super Bowls won by guys drafted outside the first round. Yet somehow people keep clinging to this "you need to draft a QB in the first round" canard. That list has 6 names on it who say that notion is dead wrong.. what you need to do is build a really good team and get a good QB who won't screw it up and who can make a few plays when called upon.

Frankly more QBs have been carried by their teams to a championship than the other way around.. Ask Troy Aikman.. Give me the best team in the league and I'll take my chances with a top 15 or better QB. That guy in Green Bay has been the best QB in the game for the most part of the last decade and aint got diddly to show for it. Putting it all on the QB is simply going about it the wrong way.. The Patriots never put it all on Brady.. At least not for long stretches. If I'm not mistaken he had a top 5 defense in all but one of his championship runs. That always gave him the luxury of being able to play within himself, punt the ball and wait for the opportunity to exploit the opposing defense when it made a mistake.

Plus, Brady and the Pats usually had a clear path in the AFCE.

Dre11 · Feb 17, 2022

RS12 said:
What is the difference? Neither will ever even sniff the big one. Like arguing over whose Ford Taurus is nicer.

There's been qbs considered very good who hasn't sniffed one, Marino comes to mind.

bewp7 · Feb 17, 2022

i do mean this as nice as i can but who cares lol

rodgers vs mahomes or josh allen vs burrow or what ever is worth talk about

dak vs cousins blehhhch

Flamma · Feb 17, 2022

DFWJC said:
I hear you, but know you cant use one game to define a QB
Cousins did lead the Vikings over a Rodgers-led Packers team, and he threw for over 300 with 3 TDs and 0 ints.
That was good Cousins. We got bad Cousins.
Cousins has played with a worse oline than Dak for most of his career, but he has had otherwise good weapons, as has Dak.

I'm fine if someone prefer Dak or Cousins....they seem in similar tiers to me

In other words, I don't care what media says. I (and you) can make up our own minds.

Yeah, I see that he has good games. It's probably just coincidence, but never when I'm watching. This goes back to when he was with the Commies. He used to have the bad habit of throwing picks in the endzone. It goes down as any other interception, except they're crippling.

shabazz · Feb 17, 2022

Funny stance by Stephen A considering his constant criticIzing of the Cowboys and Dak . But for some strange, unknown, inexplicable reason when someone’s dared to say the Cousins was better then Dak, he circled the wagons and went on the defense of Dak in a personal and profound way.

I just can’t seem to come up with a single reason why…..perlplexing.

nate dizzle · Feb 17, 2022

Tomato Tomato

RS12 · Feb 17, 2022

Dre11 said:
There's been qbs considered very good who hasn't sniffed one, Marino comes to mind.

Huh? Marino made the SB in year two and never made it back. Mentioning Dak and Marino in the same sentence is mind boggling. Some of you are determined to die on the Dak hill. Sad really.

ESisback · Feb 17, 2022

RS12 said:
Huh? Marino made the SB in year two and never made it back. Mentioning Dak and Marino in the same sentence is mind boggling. Some of you are determined to die on the Dak hill. Sad really.

And some of you are determined to be perpetually miserable, crying about something not one fan can do anything about. By the way, you can’t measure one player by rings in a team game.

Nav22 · Feb 17, 2022

Some of you people will be SO CONFUSED by football when players, coaches and front office personnel unanimously vote Dak as a top 10 QB this offseason... again.

Furrowing your brows in a vain attempt at understanding this sport.
:laugh:

TwentyOne · Feb 17, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Russo said "Dak Prescott is overrated" and that "I'm not in love with Cousins either, but you're making Prescott out to be better than he is".

Steven A is his normal loud self. Apparently he's from the failed school of "the louder you are the more right you appear to be" which usually works the opposite.

Is it really worth the time trying to find out which one of these crappy QBs is better ?
They are both not the ones you would build your franchise on.

Id say Cousins is in the lower tier of average where Dak is in the upper tier of the bad QBs.

The Fonz · Feb 17, 2022

They make up some meaningless stuff just for rating

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Feb 17, 2022

RS12 said:
What is the difference? Neither will ever even sniff the big one. Like arguing over whose Ford Taurus is nicer.

LOL

Jstopper · Feb 17, 2022

shabazz said:
Funny stance by Stephen A considering his constant criticIzing of the Cowboys and Dak . But for some strange, unknown, inexplicable reason when someone’s dared to say the Cousins was better then Dak, he circled the wagons and went on the defense of Dak in a personal and profound way.

I just can’t seem to come up with a single reason why…..perlplexing.

Well you kinda just made that up, because Stephen A is on record multiple times saying he thinks Dak is good, he just dislikes the cowboys. Nice reach though buckaroo.

plymkr · Feb 18, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
Russo said "Dak Prescott is overrated" and that "I'm not in love with Cousins either, but you're making Prescott out to be better than he is".

Steven A is his normal loud self. Apparently he's from the failed school of "the louder you are the more right you appear to be" which usually works the opposite.

What was that? A screaming contest? I think Dak and Kirk are pretty much the same. Pretty comparable. If we would have let Dak walk and Kirk took his place I feel we would have won the division and got thumped in the first round of the playoffs. Same result with either one.

noshame · Feb 18, 2022

If you're taking about the 2nd half of the season when teams figured out how to defense him, yes just about everybody is better.
KM must build a offense around his capabilities and hopefully his ankle will handle cuts and plants, because he's done in the pocket .

shabazz · Feb 18, 2022

Jstopper said:
Well you kinda just made that up, because Stephen A is on record multiple times saying he thinks Dak is good, he just dislikes the cowboys. Nice reach though buckaroo.

…..and many times he’s been critical of Dak to the point of laughter. Seems that the comparison to Cousins really hit a nerve with him. The Cousins/Prescott comparison is commonplace on most media outlets but apparently not for Stephon

MountaineerCowboy · Feb 18, 2022

Seven said:
Where's your threads on Parsons?

Where's your threads concerning Gregory? Cee Dee? Wilson?

Grow up, chump.

Nobody cares enough to talk about about Gregory, CeeDee, or Wilson to take time to talk about them. If I see stuff about Parsons I'll post it. I've done it before, but you only look for Dak threads, so you probably missed it. If you only have eyes for Dak threads then that's all you're gonna see.

It's a QB league and they get the most attention. Therefor they have the most content to talk about.

If you don't like it I suggest you start your own threads on whoever you want or just ignore the Dak ones.

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