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Explain. Because when push came to shove in a win or go home game, our O line was the main culprit.
We got no push, no nastiness whatsoever. I give Dak a pass on that the same as Zeke.
It doesn't mean I think Dak is quick release and reading defenses, because I think he must improve in that area.

FIX THE O_LINE!
 

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Answer me this 1 question: Do you think Dak played well this year? I don’t care about meaningless, hollow stats either.

Well in the one start that counts he played well enough to win 11 times.. which is more than double the number of times he didn't play well enough to win.. Draw your own conclusions.

In all seriousness Dak did not play well every game .. which makes him just like every other player who ever suited up. But he was good in way more games than he was bad.. And that's really all we can hope for.. If you're looking for perfection you're going to always be disappointed because that guy doesn't exist.
 

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Answer me this 1 question: Do you think Dak played well this year? I don’t care about meaningless, hollow stats either.
Yes. Given the teams record and all statistics associated, he played well enough.
I have to add this disclaimer for the knuckleheads who are having meltdowns: This doesn't mean he's elite or played mistake free.
 

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Sure it's true. but only because of a quirk in how the NFL scores bad snaps.. They count those against the QB.. I don't agree but it is what it is.. Dak threw touchdowns on two occasions after picking up a snap that Biadasz rolled to him. Is it your contention that we should treat those plays as "turnovers?" I defy you to go back and find 14 times when Dak fumbled this season.. Since you enjoy posing sucker bets. How about this one.. If you can't find 14 plays where Dak fumbled in 2021 you will delete you account and not post for a year.. And it can't just be your word.. I need playsheet corroboration. Go through the game logs.. post video.. whatever.. just find the 14 fumbles and get back to me..

I'll wait..
Are you saying the 14 is a lie or are you saying that your definition of a fumble is not the same as the NFLs definition of a fumble?

Anybody can make up their own definition of what something is or is not, so there would be no way I could show you the 14 fumbles if you do not accept them as fumbles, correct?
 

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Sure it's true. but only because of a quirk in how the NFL scores bad snaps.. They count those against the QB.. I don't agree but it is what it is.. Dak threw touchdowns on two occasions after picking up a snap that Biadasz rolled to him. Is it your contention that we should treat those plays as "turnovers?" I defy you to go back and find 14 times when Dak fumbled this season.. Since you enjoy posing sucker bets. How about this one.. If you can't find 14 plays where Dak fumbled in 2021 you will delete your account and not post for a year.. And it can't just be your word.. I need playsheet corroboration. Go through the game logs.. post video.. whatever.. just find the 14 fumbles and get back to me..

I'll wait..
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Well in the one start that counts he played well enough to win 11 times.. which is more than double the number of times he didn't play well enough to win.. Draw your own conclusions.

In all seriousness Dak did not play well every game .. which makes him just like every other player who ever suited up. But he was good in way more games than he was bad.. And that's really all we can hope for.. If you're looking for perfection you're going to always be disappointed because that guy doesn't exist.
Of course, not looking for perfection, but a large part of 2nd half of the season,against anybody, not in NFC least, was poor.
 

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We got no push, no nastiness whatsoever. I give Dak a pass on that the same as Zeke.
It doesn't mean I think Dak is quick release and reading defenses, because I think he must improve in that area.

FIX THE O_LINE!
Sure he could improve, but I'll use the 49ers game, because it's a great example. Forget elliott, this idiotic staff ran him and Pollard with tears! Dak got sacked 5 times, hit 14 and the number of penalties was astounding. Hard for any QB to overcome that and yet he scored all the TDs and had half the rushing yards. And, he made some bad throws on top of that.
The Oline was hot garbage.

People claim they want to have an honest discussion, but refuse to do it.
 

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The bottom line either we move back to the 2016 run and shoot/RPO offense or Dak will be ineffective.
Moving him around may save his career .
 

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Yes. Given the teams record and all statistics associated, he played well enough.
I have to add this disclaimer for the knuckleheads who are having meltdowns: This doesn't mean he's elite or played mistake free.
Didn’t come close to playing well enough.
 

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When did I say he was elite?

This is what you always do. Lie. Your credibility is at an all-time low.
You considering me creditable or not means less than nothing to me. In fact, it's more of a badge of honor, because why would I want someone that is wrong as much as you thinking I'm creditable anyways? The more you disagree with me the more I know I'm right.
 

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Well in the one start that counts he played well enough to win 11 times.. which is more than double the number of times he didn't play well enough to win.. Draw your own conclusions.

In all seriousness Dak did not play well every game .. which makes him just like every other player who ever suited up. But he was good in way more games than he was bad.. And that's really all we can hope for.. If you're looking for perfection you're going to always be disappointed because that guy doesn't exist.


I think the problem is the lack of production versus any halfway decent team over the course of the second half of the season. I used to be a numbers guy but the reality is that Dak's stats and averages are extremely padded from either playing awful NFC East teams and scoring 40-50 points and/or throwing non-stop in 4th quarters playing catch up against good teams. Sometimes you have to use your eyes/logic versus blindly relying on wins/losses stats. He couldn't cut it against good teams this year almost exclusively. Really his only good showings against playoff-level talent was against TB, LA Chargers (kinda, sorta), and New England. Every other good game was against the trash NFC east teams or against bottom third teams like Carolina and Atlanta. There's no refuting that and he has to start showing up if he's ever going to live up to that contract. I was at the 49ers playoff game and some of his misses that you didn't see on TV were just inexcusable.

If he can't beat good, playoff-caliber teams then literally nothing else matters and he's wasting every one else's time and a lot of cap room.
 

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You considering me creditable or not means less than nothing to me. In fact, it's more of a badge of honor, because why would I want someone that is wrong as much as you thinking I'm creditable anyways? The more you disagree with me the more I know I'm right.
You're a liar. Anything you say is just empty BS smoke. Now you're even lying to yourself. How sad.
 

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Are you saying the 14 is a lie or are you saying that your definition of a fumble is not the same as the NFLs definition of a fumble?

Anybody can make up their own definition of what something is or is not, so there would be no way I could show you the 14 fumbles if you do not accept them as fumbles, correct?

Of course you can.. every game sheet has a play by play and every time there is a fumble they write "_____ fumbles at the __ yard line recovered by ____." All you have to do is find 14 of those with Dak's name in them. If you find them you win. The NFL has to put the fumble on the stats heet somewhere.. They decided back in the Stone Age that bad snaps go on the QB's ledger. By the way so do botched handoffs. So it still counts has a fumble by the QB. That is not what is in dispute here. YOU are the one trumpeting this number like it's synonymous with turnovers. Even though I'm sure you know better but it suits your narrative so you keep spewing it. All I'm asking is for you to learn for yourself that what I am saying is true. Dak did not fumble 14 times this season.. He had to fall on or scoop up 7 or 8 bad snaps.. and that is what you are citing as some sort of indictment of his ball security when you should be aiming that at the center. But you won't.. Because it doesn't suit your narrative.. However my work is done here because I've exposed your lie and your cowardly refusal to back it up.
 
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Attacking the messenger does not diminish the credibility of the message…….especially when the original message came from a 3rd party. Debate the facts….not the emotions
 

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Of course you can.. every game sheet has a play by play and every time there is a fumble they write "_____ fumbles at the __ yard line recovered by ____." All you have to do is find 14 of those with Dak's name in them. If you find them you win. The NFL has to put the fumble on the stats heet somewhere.. They decided back in the Stone Age that bad snaps go on the QB's ledger. By the way so do botched handoffs. So it still counts has a fumble by the QB. That is not what is in dispute here. YOU are the one trumpeting this number like it's synonymous with turnovers. Even though I'm sure you know better but it suits your narrative so you keep spewing it. All I'm asking is for you to learn for yourself that what I am saying is true. Dak did not fumble 14 times this season.. He had to fall on or scoop up 7 or 8 bad snaps.. and that is what you are citing as some sort of indictment of his ball security when you should be aiming that at the center. But you won't.. Because it doesn't suit your narrative.. However my work is done here because I've exposed your lie and your cowardly refusal to back it up.
If I do the leg work here and actually find this stuff then what's in it for me?
 

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Of course you can.. every game sheet has a play by play and every time there is a fumble they write "_____ fumbles at the __ yard line recovered by ____." All you have to do is find 14 of those with Dak's name in them. If you find them you win. The NFL has to put the fumble on the stats heet somewhere.. They decided back in the Stone Age that bad snaps go on the QB's ledger. By the way so do botched handoffs. So it still counts has a fumble by the QB. That is not what is in dispute here. YOU are the one trumpeting this number like it's synonymous with turnovers. Even though I'm sure you know better but it suits your narrative so you keep spewing it. All I'm asking is for you to learn for yourself that what I am saying is true. Dak did not fumble 14 times this season.. He had to fall on or scoop up 7 or 8 bad snaps.. and that is what you are citing as some sort of indictment of his ball security when you should be aiming that at the center. But you won't.. Because it doesn't suit your narrative.. However my work is done here because I've exposed your lie and your cowardly refusal to back it up.
It was 6. 6 lost fumbles that you could fairly assess were Prescott's fault.
 

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I think the problem is the lack of production versus any halfway decent team over the course of the second half of the season. I used to be a numbers guy but the reality is that Dak's stats and averages are extremely padded from either playing awful NFC East teams and scoring 40-50 points and/or throwing non-stop in 4th quarters playing catch up against good teams. Sometimes you have to use your eyes/logic versus blindly relying on wins/losses stats. He couldn't cut it against good teams this year almost exclusively. Really his only good showings against playoff-level talent was against TB, LA Chargers (kinda, sorta), and New England. Every other good game was against the trash NFC east teams or against bottom third teams like Carolina and Atlanta. There's no refuting that and he has to start showing up if he's ever going to live up to that contract. I was at the 49ers playoff game and some of his misses that you didn't see on TV were just inexcusable.

If he can't beat good, playoff-caliber teams then literally nothing else matters and he's wasting every one else's time and a lot of cap room.
So his 105 and 106 rated games against the Raiders and Cards should be ignored bc HE didn't win?

Gotcha.
 
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