Twitter: Behavioral Clause in Randy Deal

Lutonio

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It's always been in their contracts!




Sorry, Jane Slater. I think American sports needs more bad blood ever since free agency and fantasy sports made everyone friends.

I’ll be pulling for Gregory to face plant or get a non-injury suspension due to his own stupidity.
 

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Dude,
They paid Hot Boy 130 million dollars for 7 years.
Guaranteed.

He's had a whopping total of 14.5 sacks in his last 39 games and they rewarded that obvious declining performance with guaranteeing the last 30 million.

So while I see your point,
You don't guarantee declining performance OR the character risks.

Gregory's character risk to production is the KEY in his case.

There was no reason to hand Tank another 30 million in cash.

Spare me run stopping.

And believe it or not, I'm not some huge Gregory apologist/ fanboy.

Lawrence has just been stealing checks for 3 years just like Crawford did once he got paid. And again like Crawford, never should have got that kinda contract to begin with.
I agree Gregory is no world beater but it would have been nice to reap the benefits of sticking with him. I would have cut him years As as he missed multiple seasons with suspensions.
 

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What an unexpected turn of events. :rolleyes:
Jerry and Randy casted in "Unforgiven" shootout scene at Big Whiskey bar: take two:

Little Bill Daggett: I don't deserve this... to die like this. I was building a house.
William Munny: Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
 

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It's not outrageous for the Cowboys to ask for this.

Now if they tried to sneak it in there at the last moment, maybe without Gregory realizing it? That's a douchey move.

Sounds to me like they had a deal to match whatever offer Gregory could get. He got his $70m offer today.

His mental health is pretty well documented. Cowboys wanted a leash and he said no. I respect both sides here.
 

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I agree Gregory is no world beater but it would have been nice to reap the benefits of sticking with him. I would have cut him years As as he missed multiple seasons with suspensions.

Yep, I hear ya.
I actually am more on the fence because of Gregorys seriously checkered past but I think a 2 year risky behavior contract on Gregory's ascending pass rush skills were almost as good or a better risk than Tank's descending skills and undeserved guaranteed money deal.

As it turned out though, those reported 5 years and 70 million w/28 mil guaranteed were waaaay beyond any acceptable risk level I would have been willing to take so I'm glad he is gone.

It's just unfortunate that he is still a far better pass rusher than Lawrence.
Even with ALL that baggage.
 
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Yep, I hear ya.
I actually am more on the fence because of Gregorys seriously checkered past but I think a 2 year risky behavior contract on Gregory's ascending pass rush skills were almost as good or a better risk than Tank's descending skills and undeserved guaranteed money deal.

As it turned out though, those reported 5 years and 70 million w/28 mil guaranteed were waaaay beyond any acceptable risk level I would have been willing to take so I'm glad he is gone.

It's just unfortunate that he is still a far better pass rusher than Lawrence.
Even with ALL that baggage.
And the irony just keeps coming.
 

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Is there a “behavioral clause” in the Jones’ contracts? Oh wait, they aren’t accountable for anything. Sorry I forgot for a sec. You know lifetime contracts and all.
 

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It's not outrageous for the Cowboys to ask for this.

Now if they tried to sneak it in there at the last moment, maybe without Gregory realizing it? That's a douchey move.

Is it? A douchey move is what Randy has offered the Cowboys since his time in the league. A douchey move is not taking that offer considering the leaps and bounds Jerry did to see to it he had every opportunity to step back on the field, and even allowed him to start. Not to mention I guarantee you he never actually read it himself. His agent read it.

Randy is a brat. Hope he enjoys Denver. The air is thin up there. He'll need to take bigger puffs to get through the tough day of being a millionaire.
 

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what kind of a fine? based on drug use and being fined and suspended? or fined because of a late hit?

I assume its fined because of bad behavior, in which case Randy should have said "you never have to worry, thanks for standing by me all these years"....

The problem here is that Dak refused to sign his contract with that exact same clause in it. So what did Dallas do? They took the clause out.

Apparently Dallas was given the chance to take it out of Gregory's contract, but the Cowboys said no. Gregory then said "F them", according to Ed Werder, and signed with Denver.

But my question would be "why did Dak object to a behavioral clause"?
 

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Yep, I hear ya.
I actually am more on the fence because of Gregorys seriously checkered past but I think a 2 year risky behavior contract on Gregory's ascending pass rush skills were almost as good or a better risk than Tank's descending skills and undeserved guaranteed money deal.

As it turned out though, those reported 5 years and 70 million w/28 mil guaranteed were waaaay beyond any acceptable risk level I would have been willing to take so I'm glad he is gone.

It's just unfortunate that he is still a far better pass rusher than Lawrence.
Even with ALL that baggage.
Yeah you know I agree with most everything you said and I want to add Gregory was undisciplined for sure but he also jumped off the screen when he was playing well. It’s a good gamble for Denver I would take him over Tank but now we just need tank to get 8 sacks and stay healthy. Bring in Jack, Wagner and Miller.
The cap will go up tune to be fearless.
 

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The problem here is that Dak refused to sign his contract with that exact same clause in it. So what did Dallas do? They took the clause out.

Apparently Dallas was given the chance to take it out of Gregory's contract, but the Cowboys said no. Gregory then said "F them", according to Ed Werder, and signed with Denver.

But my question would be "why did Dak object to a behavioral clause"?
Because he is a QB. We are at peak stupidity with QB’s
 

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Yeah you know I agree with most everything you said and I want to add Gregory was undisciplined for sure but he also jumped off the screen when he was playing well. It’s a good gamble for Denver I would take him over Tank but now we just need tank to get 8 sacks and stay healthy. Bring in Jack, Wagner and Miller.
The cap will go up tune to be fearless.

Exactly man. Totally agree. Gregory's pass rush skillset is far superior.

Now just watch Gregory turn into a highly respected and dependable team mate who puts up double digit sacks for 3 or 4 years while the Cowboys are stuck with big mouth HotBoy doing his disappearing act routine .

Wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that way, lol.

Oh well, as we both agreed on, those contract numbers were just too steep of a risk though.
 

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The problem here is that Dak refused to sign his contract with that exact same clause in it. So what did Dallas do? They took the clause out.

Apparently Dallas was given the chance to take it out of Gregory's contract, but the Cowboys said no. Gregory then said "F them", according to Ed Werder, and signed with Denver.

But my question would be "why did Dak object to a behavioral clause"?
:huh:

I can understand Dak wanting it out. never had a history of it. but why put it in.

Gregory has been suspended how many times because of his bahaviour? and you are about to hand him a 70M contract....I want some assurances.

I can't believe you are making this about Dak...seriously dude.
 

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Baby Randy got his big baby special treatment for 6 years. He literally fails the team for 6 years in a row and expects to get a massive long term guaranteed deal. You just can't make this stuff up. The crazy part is we were gonna give it to him. A real team would have sent that clown packing years ago. Actually a real team never would have picked a failed human in the second round to begin with.
 

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I think Stephen is blowing this team up to rebuild it based on the number of players leaving the organization.
 

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It's very tricky. As evident on this board, the impact of a player's money is always questioned while a team makes "business decisions". Taking money EARNED would be a problem in the clause, not money taken still left on the contract as a big decider. It is a business. If Gregory mis-stepped, he wouldn't get any money, as mandated by the NFL. Suspension means no pay. Players always get the "overpaid" label, but never the "underpaid" label. JJ should get over it, after all.......it's a business. Gregory, with the advice of agent, made a decision. There's no loyalty, and the owners know that when they cut/release/restructure. Another team's problem is another team's solution sometimes. Denver proved that.
 

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Is there a “behavioral clause” in the Jones’ contracts? Oh wait, they aren’t accountable for anything. Sorry I forgot for a sec. You know lifetime contracts and all.
Side effect of being a Cowboys supporter of past success - memory loss. :muttley:
 

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I am far from a D Flaw fan but Gregory is not even in the same ball park as D Flaw. If you add up all 6 years of Gregory so far you get basically one good year of D Flaw. Gregory is a complete failure as a football player. D Flaw is a me first guy all day long but at the very least he is capable of being a good player, at times he has even played great.
 

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- I keeping from local media points, that Jerry himself was " livid" .. about losing Gregory to Denver.

- It's being said that one of Cowboys capologists was the fine line and last resort with this Cowboys clause contract.
Sounds like the Jones left it up to this cap guy,(they have several on their team) and assumed Gregory camp would still go for it ...

- Jerry stepped in for the DLaw new contract ...but not available to rescue the Gregory contract.... ??
 
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