Free Agency thread

Stash · Mar 19, 2022

stilltheguru said:
Uhhhh I wasn't for paying Gregory either so I don't know why you quoted me with that.

Because ‘they’ were.

Sydla · Mar 19, 2022

Are we linked to any DTs?

Because if we aren’t that is idiotic.

Stash · Mar 19, 2022

rocyaice said:
It seems to be a move they’ve lucked into but won’t take it. You lose Gregory and a better player pops up and a team needs to get rid of him. Seems like the Robert Quinn move I think a lot of us been hoping we can duplicate. He’s expensive but I honestly don’t care. You’re in win now mode you shouldn’t care about years down the line.

I agree completely. The guy is a far better pass rusher than anyone they have or had in the past several years. In a different stratosphere than the guy you almost paid $70 million.

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 19, 2022

stasheroo said:
I agree completely. The guy is a far better pass rusher than anyone they have or had in the past several years. In a different stratosphere than the guy you almost paid $70 million.

Right and the more options available the more I wonder why were teams willing to spend so much on Gregory?

Stash · Mar 19, 2022

rocyaice said:
Right and the more options available the more I wonder why were teams willing to spend so much on Gregory?

He did come considerably cheaper than other options. Chandler Jones was at $17.5 as I recall, and Von Miller even more. And I’m not sure the Vikings had Hunter on the market when they did.

But I do think Denver is overpaying and I’m glad we didn’t.

Aerolithe_Lion · Mar 19, 2022

Sydla said:
Are we linked to any DTs?

Because if we aren’t that is idiotic.

I think teams and their architects have identities. The AFC North and their LBers. The NFC West and their Dlines. Jerry strongly values Star wide receivers and big bruising RBs. Demarco, the Barbarian, Ezekiel, Emmett… in a way he’s continually trying to recreate the 90’s teams.

As for defense. Philadelphia does not value linebackers who aren’t pass rushers. The last 1st round LB we’ve drafted was… 1987 I believe. Nigel Bradham got a modest deal, but Jeremiah Trotter was the only star LB we’ve had in over 30 years.

Similarly, Jerry does not value DT’s and safeties. The last DT you drafted in the first round was before this 26 year drought. Who was the last one you gave a major contract to? Jay Ratliff some 13ish years ago? La’Roi Glover 20+ years ago? Similarly, who was the last free safety you valued? Roy Williams is the only one I can think of since Woodson, and he was more of a box safety. Vs Philadelphia coveting that position; Brian Dawkins, pro bowler Michael Lewis, pro bowler Quintin Mikell, Malcolm Jenkins, Rodney Mcloed, we attempted to get Devin Mccourty a few years ago and put out an offer to Marcus Williams before he went to Baltimore

Just different philosophies on what’s important to a defense. I don’t think Jerry will be looking for a starting DT, and if he does it’ll be an Aldon Smith/Dante Fowler type situation

fivetwos · Mar 19, 2022

stasheroo said:
Less than $35 million over the next two years. The split is awkward and would need to be worked out, but the overall costs aren’t that bad. Not when you were going to pay Gregory $14 million a year.

Gotta account for half the AAV in the Gregory deal going to Armstrong the next day.....which is my biggest problem of the entire offseason thus far.

Yes even ahead of the Schultz/Cooper messes.

I was actually surprised when they signed Fowler, and I'm still not sure how there's some that don't think that we are ahead there.

I was convinced that plan B was Armstrong, Basham and a mid round pick.

That Gregory contract was all about Jerry rewarding his friend. For what? I'm not sure but I'd bet the kid sabotaged it in some sort of way....and that was the right move.

Betting against Randy Gregory is a solid play....unfortunately. Denver sees it other wise for now but he will be released inside of 24 months. Promise.

Floatyworm · Mar 19, 2022

Sydla said:
Are we linked to any DTs?

Because if we aren’t that is idiotic.

Draft my man.......1 in particular

stilltheguru · Mar 19, 2022

Mr_437 said:
It's about time. Now add another young SS:
1. Deshon Elliott
2. Terrell Edmonds
3. Ronnie Harrison

So you want to sign Kearse AND one of those 3? Smh

Mr_437 · Mar 19, 2022

stilltheguru said:
So you want to sign Kearse AND one of those 3? Smh

Don't hurt your neck lol.

stilltheguru · Mar 19, 2022

Mr_437 said:
Don't hurt your neck lol.

So you're cutting mukuamu then? That would be dumb as hell. We aren't keeping 5 safeties

Mr_437 · Mar 19, 2022

Cowboys play 3 safeties a lot, and Dono stays hurt. It's dumb as he'll to think Mukuamu is a player of significance at this point.

fivetwos · Mar 19, 2022

rocyaice said:
Right and the more options available the more I wonder why were teams willing to spend so much on Gregory?

Upside probably.

IF he ever stays on the field for 17 games AND is motivated he can make a serious impact.

Those are two large IFs though.

Other GMs hired to win now take that shot. We don't have such problems.

Carson · Mar 19, 2022

Whiskey Cowboy · Mar 19, 2022

Mr_437 said:
Cowboys play 3 safeties a lot, and Dono stays hurt. It's dumb as he'll to think Mukuamu is a player of significance at this point.

Kinda tend to agree here. If they go heavy at corner with a tweener that can play, maybe but I'd feel alot better with Kearse or another strong vet on board. Hooker and Wilson both have struggled with injuries. On paper I love the duo but it's asking too much to expect both to stay healthy.

Pessimist_cowboy · Mar 19, 2022

Kearse saying on Twitter when asked about re-signing with Cowboys” God had other plans”. Either he’s the biggest troll or he’s telling the truth.

Carson · Mar 19, 2022

Pessimist_cowboy said:
Kearse saying on Twitter when asked about re-signing with Cowboys” God had other plans”. Either he’s the biggest troll or he’s telling the truth.

I say he’s good as gone and focus elsewhere

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 19, 2022

Pessimist_cowboy said:
Kearse saying on Twitter when asked about re-signing with Cowboys” God had other plans”. Either he’s the biggest troll or he’s telling the truth.

I believe him but I wonder who would sign him? Well this is assuming he’d ask for a big deal…..I can’t see teams using their cap space on him and that would suck if he’s had for nothing….but at the same time….something tells me they bring him back. I feel like if he was gone we would’ve heard about it by now.

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 19, 2022

stasheroo said:
He did come considerably cheaper than other options. Chandler Jones was at $17.5 as I recall, and Von Miller even more. And I’m not sure the Vikings had Hunter on the market when they did.

But I do think Denver is overpaying and I’m glad we didn’t.

But see to me based on what he got the Von Miller deal doesn’t look as bad. I shouldn’t be shocked but at his age and lack of performance I’m just shocked but maybe they feel no wear and tear is there.

TheMarathonContinues · Mar 19, 2022

fivetwos said:
Upside probably.

IF he ever stays on the field for 17 games AND is motivated he can make a serious impact.

Those are two large IFs though.

Other GMs hired to win now take that shot. We don't have such problems.

He’s 30 though. And I get there’s not much wear there but for the most part he’s never shown anything that resembles consistency.

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