If you were GM of the Cowboys would you have tried to get T.Hill?

Hadenough

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Ok lets say jerry put you in charge of cowboys 2 weeks ago, would you have tried to get hill?
This includes that jerry wanted amari gone regardless.
Also I dont know hill , but whether I like him or not, I know his value to a team. So that is what is important
if your a GM.

Hill is a dynamic WR, one of the fastest wr, and importantly he is good at catching a short to midrange pass
and getting yac, breaking a big run off a short pass.

This is what dak needs, more than a guy who can run deep passes, as dak is 50 50 on those longer passes.

you can use hill on a reverse, in backfield, short, medium , and long.

He is also good at clearing areas, and getting dbl covered to clear a area for another wr.

He would have been perfect for Dak.

And if I had to trade lamb to get picks back, I would then trade lamb.

Hill is by far better than lamb.

So jones boys made no effort or try to get him, is that stupid? If you try and fail, thats ok, and I dont
mean stephen low balling hill lol.

I was just watching the kc dallas game , and KC is going to miss hill, they were stupid to not resign him.
and I cant believe Miami of all teams got him ! So many teams besides dallas blew a chance at one
of the best wr in the nfl.
Hill is a terrible fit for Dak. Has too small a catch radius and too fast that Dak would be throwing way behind him.
 

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too small, shaky could never see or find him. The only way the baby dak could get him the ball is by handing it off to him. hard nope. get a different QB, heck even Rush could see and find it.
Well you know I said your gm, so you could bench dak for rush or bring in another guy who could find hill !
 

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Ok lets say jerry put you in charge of cowboys 2 weeks ago, would you have tried to get hill?
This includes that jerry wanted amari gone regardless.
Also I dont know hill , but whether I like him or not, I know his value to a team. So that is what is important
if your a GM.

Hill is a dynamic WR, one of the fastest wr, and importantly he is good at catching a short to midrange pass
and getting yac, breaking a big run off a short pass.

This is what dak needs, more than a guy who can run deep passes, as dak is 50 50 on those longer passes.

you can use hill on a reverse, in backfield, short, medium , and long.

He is also good at clearing areas, and getting dbl covered to clear a area for another wr.

He would have been perfect for Dak.

And if I had to trade lamb to get picks back, I would then trade lamb.

Hill is by far better than lamb.

So jones boys made no effort or try to get him, is that stupid? If you try and fail, thats ok, and I dont
mean stephen low balling hill lol.

I was just watching the kc dallas game , and KC is going to miss hill, they were stupid to not resign him.
and I cant believe Miami of all teams got him ! So many teams besides dallas blew a chance at one
of the best wr in the nfl.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...-how-the-nfls-top-qbs-are-dominating-in-2021/


I may be wrong, but I believe statistically Dak is one of the better deep ball throwers in the league - I believe for the past few years he was like top 5ish, not sure last year. Just a quick look this was from when he was playing pre-injury, but FYI:

"But as soon as defenses shift into man coverage, Dak is SLAYING them. His numbers are outrageous. On throws against Cover-1, Prescott is 15 of 21 for 260 yards, seven touchdowns and zero interceptions. That's a 152.8 passer rating, which is easily the best in the league. And he is absolutely attacking with these throws, averaging 11.5 air yards per attempt, compared with 6.68 against all other coverages"

That said, from what I understand from listening to the DFW radio- Kellen Moore is much more Jason Garrett than we might like - meaning he is about "taking what the defense gives you" which would explain taking away our #1 WR rather than like focusing on scheming that person open.

Now would I like to have Tyreek Hill - hell yeah, but I do wonder if he'd just be another decoy to force feed our TE or Lamb etc.
 

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I'm good with Lamb and seeing how his career plays out the next two years. I'd also take a look at T. Hill's numbers after next season and see if it was worth it. I have a feeling that Miami will regret it.
Mahomes/Kelce/CEH > Tua
 

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I'm good with Lamb and seeing how his career plays out the next two years. I'd also take a look at T. Hill's numbers after next season and see if it was worth it. I have a feeling that Miami will regret it.
Mahomes/Kelce/CEH > Tua
yes it will be interesting to see how well miami and tua do with hill. They do have new coaches, and I havent seen tua play much , so I dont have opinion on him.

I will say this, it isnt about total yds for season , it is about the occasional big game, and the occasional big play, if it comes at a good time when miami needs it ,
it can add a few wins to the season, and get them in playoffs. (this is what hill would have brought to dallas, and it is what they needed)
I think hill can do that if they know how to use him.

I dont know Miami's coaches either, so have no idea on that.
 

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I will say this, after reading the comments, which most all say no lol, I am either a oddball idiot, or a oddball genius !!!!!
I also think cowboys should get wagner, for the 11 mil, heck pay him 12 mil, it is just a 1 year deal !
Pump up the defense a little, and let parsons be DE for a year. good exercise for parsons!
 

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Hill would've cost way too much versus what they would've given for getting him.
Well the flaw in your statement is both say the same thing lol
you basically said Hill would've cost way too much.

We like to pay too much here in cowboy land!

YOu guys seem to forget you can always trade him again after a year or 2, and he isnt that high the first 2 years.

And as for what he could have done for cowboys, we will never know, good or bad it is all just speculation.

Watch the kc dallas game from last season, and you can see the impact he makes.
 

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Can't pay everyone. Mahomes isn't going to win it all again w/o a D.
yeah , but I will say now KC wont win another SB in next 3 years now that they dont have hill.

Defenses found out that if you take hill out of the game you can beat the chiefs, but if you just single cover him , he will win the game for them.
Now defenses dont have to worry about hill anymore , just kelce, so much easier to defend them now.
Dont let M take off and run, and dbl kelce....simple
 

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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...-how-the-nfls-top-qbs-are-dominating-in-2021/


I may be wrong, but I believe statistically Dak is one of the better deep ball throwers in the league - I believe for the past few years he was like top 5ish, not sure last year. Just a quick look this was from when he was playing pre-injury, but FYI:

"But as soon as defenses shift into man coverage, Dak is SLAYING them. His numbers are outrageous. On throws against Cover-1, Prescott is 15 of 21 for 260 yards, seven touchdowns and zero interceptions. That's a 152.8 passer rating, which is easily the best in the league. And he is absolutely attacking with these throws, averaging 11.5 air yards per attempt, compared with 6.68 against all other coverages"

That said, from what I understand from listening to the DFW radio- Kellen Moore is much more Jason Garrett than we might like - meaning he is about "taking what the defense gives you" which would explain taking away our #1 WR rather than like focusing on scheming that person open.

Now would I like to have Tyreek Hill - hell yeah, but I do wonder if he'd just be another decoy to force feed our TE or Lamb etc.
That is a good point,
kellen is a albatross to our offense lol.
He had amari and didnt use him enough, so I could see where he wouldnt know how to use tyrek.
But since tyrek would be the new shiny toy, 1st season, I think would have been good for hill here. He would have got the targets, dont know about good play design though.

lamb hasnt done much in 2 years, and now he is # 1 guy, so lets see if Kellen can get ball to him more than he did amari.
last season kellen wanted to throw to everyone, like u say what the defense gives you.
But when you do that your not utilizing the play makers enough, so more completions, but not much yac.
 

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So I take it...your kid looks like Dak. And Dak use to deliver milk to your house when he was in college.
:laugh:lol-jk
he could never find my house, it's a scary neighborhood. he got scared and ran into old bubbles trailer. And the next thing anybody saw was this.

dak is down again sheesh.

trailer-park-boys5.jpg
 

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No. Almost 30 with a game built entirely on speed and cost multiple multiple draft picks to get just for the right to pay him a ridiculous contract. Would have made dealing cooper look even dumber.

I’d have kept cooper from the get go.
 

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yeah , but I will say now KC wont win another SB in next 3 years now that they dont have hill.

Defenses found out that if you take hill out of the game you can beat the chiefs, but if you just single cover him , he will win the game for them.
Now defenses dont have to worry about hill anymore , just kelce, so much easier to defend them now.
Dont let M take off and run, and dbl kelce....simple
Yup. They better make the most of that plethora of draft picks they got.
 

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IT isnt 30 million lol.
he is scheduled to make 26 mil in 22 which includes signing bonus his cap hit for 22 is 6.4 mil
23 cap hit is 31 mil
24 is 25 mil
25 is 28 mil
26 is 50 mil, but they can avoid this by cutting him with only 5 mil cap hit. So that is probably the plan,

The 23 cap hit could be lowered with a restructure.

I had thought his contract was 72 mil, but that was the G money lol.
only 52 is G if they cut him in march of 24. that is when 2nd part of G money kicks in.

I am going to laugh at you guys when lamb gets a bigger contract than this when his time comes up .
The life of the deal in totality averages $30 Million per - which is why he agreed to it. Otherwise he could have taken the Chiefs offer for less money, but he wanted more than Devante A.**
 

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The life of the deal in totality averages $30 Million per - which is why he agreed to it. Otherwise he could have taken the Chiefs offer for less money, but he wanted more than Devante A.**
he wanted a big payday and he deserves it looking at other lesser guys who have been paid big.
I looked at his previous contracts, and he made 2 mil a year on 1st one though dont see how as he was a 5th round pick.
the extension was for 5 mil a year. that is kinda low.
At his age this was his last chance for a payday.

I still think he would have been worth it, as these salarys are all going up every year.
 

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good point lol, I guess I would have to be HC, and QB coach too, to fix dak on that and some other things.
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