Dallas drafts well, proof again

12+88=7 said:

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...t-drafting-teams-why-another-star-pick-awaits

Nice article breaking down how Dallas has done drafting from 2010 to 2019 verses the rest of the NFL, not just in a vacuum.

Dallas was 8th in draft return during that period, but did it with the 4th least draft capital.

Dallas has gotten a good start in the next decade by drafting Lamb(6th best in class) and Parsons(best in class) the last two drafts.

Another interesting point is that Dallas is the 8th winningest team in the NFL during this same time frame. But Dallas has nothing to show in the post season with all this draft success and wins. That's what everyone remembers and the teams draft success and being a winning team is forgotten.

Many believe Dallas is the worst run organization in the NFL, but if that is the case, the vast MAJORITY of teams in the NFL are poorly run.

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Problem with the draft is ANY team is lucky if 4 of the 7-8 picks every year turn out to be meaningful contributors by year 4.

When you have to fill out a 53 man roster the math is just against you in terms of how this team goes about roster management. You just can’t fill all your holes by relying solely on the draft even if you’re really good at it.

So in a 4 year span (contract length for those under 1st round deals) you’re lucky to have 16 homegrown players be meaningful contributors. So say you did that. You still have 37 more roster spots to fill that you have to get from somewhere.

I think Dallas wastes more roster spots than normal because they expect to get a 75-80% return on picks when they’re lucky for 50-60%. They should go outside the organization for at least 5-6 spots a year like they did last year, with Kearse, Kazee, Neal, etc. unfortunately when you only sign them to one year deals, they’re not covering enough holes if you don’t resign them. (See Kazee, Neal, etc.)

That’s why the depth from 30-53 is so bad on this team every year. You’ve got 16 draft picks, 5-10 outside guys (This year they resigned Anger, Kearse, etc, but still qualify as outside guys) and the rest are guys playing it out on their rookie deal expecting to be meaningful contributors that likely won’t be (Farinok, Bohana, Armstrong, Noah Brown, Gifford). Basically a 50-50 split.

12+88=7 said:

The data is from Football Outsiders. A fact is a fact even if you don't like it..

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His great drafts with no results. The only results that matter are on the field and the drafting legacy is poor at best. Jerry is the reason, with Jerry it's luck not skill and the team continues to fail 25 years worth. Smoke and mirrors that make garbage drafts into gold, simply amazing.
Jerry Jones' fall from grace is his own fault and tragic for Cowboys' legacy (sportskeeda.com)

This just highlights the stupidity of our front office. The fact they seemingly draft well, better than average and yet still haven't accomplished squat on the field should be a flashing, bright red, neon sign that you can't build a championship team from the draft alone.

Until the Jones' boys wake the hell up to that reality and use FA to actually make improvements to the roster, you'll be reading articles like this for the next decade too where they draft sufficiently but still haven't won crap.

12+88=7 said:

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...t-drafting-teams-why-another-star-pick-awaits

Nice article breaking down how Dallas has done drafting from 2010 to 2019 verses the rest of the NFL, not just in a vacuum.

Dallas was 8th in draft return during that period, but did it with the 4th least draft capital.

Dallas has gotten a good start in the next decade by drafting Lamb(6th best in class) and Parsons(best in class) the last two drafts.

Another interesting point is that Dallas is the 8th winningest team in the NFL during this same time frame. But Dallas has nothing to show in the post season with all this draft success and wins. That's what everyone remembers and the teams draft success and being a winning team is forgotten.

Many believe Dallas is the worst run organization in the NFL, but if that is the case, the vast MAJORITY of teams in the NFL are poorly run.

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I agree Dallas drafts well. They can draft 7 hall of famers this month, but it will never make up for picking Taco over TJ Watt!!! That still makes my balls itch.

Sydla said:

This just highlights the stupidity of our front office. The fact they seemingly draft well, better than average and yet still haven't accomplished squat on the field should be a flashing, bright red, neon sign that you can't build a championship team from the draft alone.

Until the Jones' boys wake the hell up to that reality and use FA to actually make improvements to the roster, you'll be reading articles like this for the next decade too where they draft sufficiently but still haven't won crap.

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Yep because as I posted above the draft only accounts for at best 25% of the roster being meaningful contributors. Yet the Joneses hold on to way more than that and say “we found Micah! Why should you doubt us about Dorance?”

They do draft well overall.

Some better years and some "worse" years like 2019. Evens out to good.

Just wish the FO wasn't stubborn to the point where they think the only way to add actual talent is through the draft.
Other than trading firsts for WRs that don't last long here.

Sydla said:

This just highlights the stupidity of our front office. The fact they seemingly draft well, better than average and yet still haven't accomplished squat on the field should be a flashing, bright red, neon sign that you can't build a championship team from the draft alone.

Until the Jones' boys wake the hell up to that reality and use FA to actually make improvements to the roster, you'll be reading articles like this for the next decade too where they draft sufficiently but still haven't won crap.

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Things will stay the same until all the Jones’ are gone.This team is run like a family business, not an NFL football team.

Regardless of how great you draft, you still need to sprinkle in some FA to help get over the top. Just not going to hit on every pick and think you are going to the SB.

Whoop de do!

They do well drafting talent, but they don't do well drafting a team. Free agency aside, they need to draft guys that can play well as a team.

none can actually just leave a post positive they always come in and urinate on the positive stuff with 3 pages of BUT and followed by negativity..

place is toxic most days, nothing can stay positive for minute, always the naysayer troll to come pounce all over it.

what theres not enough negative open pages on the front main page you have to come in a destroy the very little positive ones..place is shameful; you all call yourselves fans but won't say a positive word about the team you are allegedly a fan of..smh.

this doesn't take into account 2021 draft one of our top drafts in along time. most of the main page full of negative offseason posts knowing how solid of drafts we have had and the draft hasnt even come yet, this is why some of us come in and clap back hard.

12+88=7 said:

The playoffs and championships is an apple and oranges argument. One(drafting) has nothing to do with the other(playoff victories).

I even mention it at the top. For all the success in drafting for Dallas, it hasn't translated into post season success.

Just presenting data that Dallas drafts well. Nothing else. Keep wondering.

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OMG, drafting has nothing to do w/ playoff victories? You have got to be day drinking. There's simply no other explanation for being so far off in your thinking. I mean, this is like saying smoking has nothing to do w/ lung cancer and emphysema.

12+88=7 said:

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...t-drafting-teams-why-another-star-pick-awaits

Nice article breaking down how Dallas has done drafting from 2010 to 2019 verses the rest of the NFL, not just in a vacuum.

Dallas was 8th in draft return during that period, but did it with the 4th least draft capital.

Dallas has gotten a good start in the next decade by drafting Lamb(6th best in class) and Parsons(best in class) the last two drafts.

Another interesting point is that Dallas is the 8th winningest team in the NFL during this same time frame. But Dallas has nothing to show in the post season with all this draft success and wins. That's what everyone remembers and the teams draft success and being a winning team is forgotten.

Many believe Dallas is the worst run organization in the NFL, but if that is the case, the vast MAJORITY of teams in the NFL are poorly run.

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yeah, they're poorly run because even with an inherent advantage (via draft prowess relative to peers) they still can't win anything because they don't build on the draft success. imagine drafting well and coupling it with competent free agency

Speaking of draft....

kskboys said:

OMG, drafting has nothing to do w/ playoff victories? You have got to be day drinking. There's simply no other explanation for being so far off in your thinking. I mean, this is like saying smoking has nothing to do w/ lung cancer and emphysema.

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Yes, the two are not intertwined.

You can draft well and not have post season success. Dallas is the example of this.

Then if you look at the last 5 years teams that have had poor draft results over that time that have won championships. The bottom three teams over that time Philadelphia, Kansas City, and LAR have all won championships. The Rams and Chiefs have had great post season success over that time.

Drafting and having post season success are two different things.

I general I think the Cowboys have done a better job of drafting the last few years. I think this is the result of Jerry letting the reigns go a little and letting guys like McClay have some say.

But at the end of the day, the quality of drafting is determined by the results on the field. The Cowboys ceiling seems to be the first round of the playoffs. They seem to win every other year rather than showing consistency so how good have they been with their drafts? They are good, just not good enough.

One factor I do not see enough when evaluating drafts is not just the players taken, but players not taken. For example, if you pick a player who makes the team and even starts, but a player taken 1 or two picks later is an all-pro, that is a missed opportunity and a draft fail, IMO.

Draft Champions...yippee

12+88=7 said:

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...t-drafting-teams-why-another-star-pick-awaits

Nice article breaking down how Dallas has done drafting from 2010 to 2019 verses the rest of the NFL, not just in a vacuum.

Dallas was 8th in draft return during that period, but did it with the 4th least draft capital.

Dallas has gotten a good start in the next decade by drafting Lamb(6th best in class) and Parsons(best in class) the last two drafts.

Another interesting point is that Dallas is the 8th winningest team in the NFL during this same time frame. But Dallas has nothing to show in the post season with all this draft success and wins. That's what everyone remembers and the teams draft success and being a winning team is forgotten.

Many believe Dallas is the worst run organization in the NFL, but if that is the case, the vast MAJORITY of teams in the NFL are poorly run.

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If it was not for our drafting success and finding great undrafted free agents we would be one of the worse teams in the NFL the last 10 years.

Risen Star said:

I'd like to think after we got Osa, Golston and Wright with three measly 3rd round picks that nobody questions our drafting.

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Jerry and Stephen getting credit for Martin pick but other than that all we drafted over the past 10 years is

Dak, Zeke, Frederick, Smith, B. Jones, Diggs, Lamb and Parsons.

I know I'm missing a couple players but currently we drafted 2 possible Hof players both on the line over the last ten years.

We have no 2nd round through 7th round stars. DAK and Lawrence is the best of that group of non 1st rounders.

We suck at the draft minus a couple first round hits where we should be able to get a good player but the ladder rounds we suck