It's not my team anymore

KJJ said:

You said if it wasn’t for this board you probably wouldn’t follow the team any longer. You even went as far as to say you don’t even know the players. You’re trying to distance yourself from the team but it’s obvious you still care. You’re now admitting you haven’t given up and are still a fan and they’re still your favorite team. You proved my point that you still have passion for the Cowboys. As much as you post about the team is proof enough.

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Runwildboys said:

When he said he doesn't know the players, he meant he doesn't know them personally, the way he knows some of us on CowboysZone. He said in the OP that he's still a fan of the team, and that he just doesn't have the same feeling of being a part of the team (in fandom, not as a literal member of the organization) which many of us understand and relate to.

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kskboys said:

You are one of the most negative posters on the site.

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CouchCoach said:

Yep and I feel connected to some that are here more than the Cowboys. Some here I just discuss the game and team with and it doesn't get any deeper than that but there are some here that know more about me than some of my family.

Just like the old DC.com site. I went looking for a place to talk about the Cowboys and found so much more than that. And it is as if I was guided to these two sites because I would need that in my life very shortly.

Can't explain it without getting sappy but there are posters, people, that matter a great deal to my life here and my only regret was not leaning on them more because I surely could have used it.

I know some have a limited amount of time to hang here and some are only interested in discussing the team but if you haven't wandered into the OTZ and Members Zone, that's a good stop by, if even for a post by, when you come to this site.

That is where you find the people behind the posts and if more would do that, we would have less name calling here. Make is easier to keep in mind there is a person behind every post.

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Runwildboys said:

When he said he doesn't know the players, he meant he doesn't know them personally, the way he knows some of us on CowboysZone. He said in the OP that he's still a fan of the team, and that he just doesn't have the same feeling of being a part of the team (in fandom, not as a literal member of the organization) which many of us understand and relate to.

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KJJ said:

He appears to be trying to distance himself from the team, making it sound as if he doesn’t even follow the Cowboys close enough to know the names of the players on the roster. None of us know the players personally but we know their names and feel as if we know them because we’re fans and talk about them all the time. We refer to some of the players by their first name. As fans we grow up with these players watching them every Sunday during the season. I confess I didn’t read the entire OP because it was too long. The title of the thread and the first few lines of the post made it sound as if he’s given up. He claims he wouldn’t even be following the team if he didn’t run his board. That’s not a fan!

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Runwildboys said:

Read the whole post. Maybe you'll think differently.

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CouchCoach said:

Before you go saying adios, seeya wouldn't want to beya or something else along those lines, hear me out.

I have been wondering if my loss of passion for the Cowboys is just the aging process or is there something else causing that and I think I am on to it. I do not have that proprietary attachment to the Cowboys I once had.

When I became a fan, they were my team. Really MY team, I felt more than just a fan, they were mine. I had a special relationship with them and almost felt I knew them.

No owner sends the message louder or clearer that this is his team than this one. He even went so far to tell the fans if you don't like it, plop down 140M of your own money. And since then, it's only gotten worse.

Not only do he and his son spend their time telling us that this is their team but they insult my fantelligence by trying to sell their way is the way. No other owner in sports history has spent more time trying to sell lemonade and eventually it becomes an insult. Do they really think I am that stupid? Just because I am a fan?

The bragging and boastfulness of the Joneses negates any "this is my team" thinking. It's all about them.

Tex Schramm was a master marketer and he had this knack for making the Cowboy accomplishments inclusive for the fans. I can still recall the pc when he established the largest radio network in NFL history and was responsible for establishing the Dallas Cowboys as Mexico's team, as well as New Mexico and Arizona. He made it about us, the fans. He said we were the reason that happened. It was look what we did.

This detached feeling I have when I watch this team play has become the norm so it doesn't bother me as much but when I watch them play, I know I am watching someone else's team play, not mine.

I realize there is no logic or rationale attached to being a fan but that's what has happened to me, I am now a fan because I've been a fan for so long. If not for the history, I would not choose this team today.

The problem is that I do not think I will ever get that feeling back again. That this is MY team feeling. And that makes me sad because one should never outgrow their passion.

This is not a complaint thread or a bash the owner one as I do not think he did this intentionally, it just happened because he let his ego take over. And a lot of what he's been doing is trying to chase the Jimmy Johnson ghost away but along the way he took my pride of ownership of my team away from me.

it is still my favorite NFL team but it is not MY team.

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KJJ said:

If he says he’s a fan but wouldn’t be following the team if he didn’t run this board he’s contradicting himself. There’s a lot of Cowboys fans that don’t even view or post on these boards. If running this board is the only thing that has him following the team then he’s not a Cowboys fan. He’s more down on the owner than the team. I’m not going to stop following the team because I don’t like the owner and his son.

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KJJ said:

You said if it wasn’t for this board you probably wouldn’t follow the team any longer. You even went as far as to say you don’t even know the players. You’re trying to distance yourself from the team but it’s obvious you still care. You’re now admitting you haven’t given up and are still a fan and they’re still your favorite team. You proved my point that you still have passion for the Cowboys. As much as you post about the team is proof enough. I’m as unhappy about the direction of this team as you are but I haven’t lost my desire to see the team succeed.

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john van brocklin said:

I remember a number of years ago , you would not post much, but when you did it was high quality.
Glad you have gotten more involved in this board.

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Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius said:

Coach ! Hey my man football has ALWAYS been about money, ALWAYS maybe not for the players, but owners have always been interested in one thing and one thing only, Get butts in the seats, get a sweet TV package
Increase their take home pay. I don't know why Jerry is so hated (Tex Schram was a much bigger awesome person) but there it is

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CouchCoach said:

When I first tried it here, no, I didn't post much and didn't connect well. I can wander and some thought I was trolling and it was just my train of thought which has many cars but not all connected.

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CouchCoach said:

I didn't say I don't know the players' names. Do you know the players personally?

You missed the point of the thread and just want to argue.

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Runwildboys said:

Your way of being a fan, or my way of being a fan, or anyone else's way of being a fan is unique to each individual. Telling someone else he isn't a fan because he has a different way of dealing with his disappointment seems like a pretty elitist thing to do.

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Runwildboys said:

I don't think they're (at least Jerry) apathetic toward the fans or that they don't care about winning. I think they just don't know that they don't know how to field a winning team. Doing it their way is important to them because they actually think they know best. There's a quote I want to put on a T-shirt:

When you're dead, you don't know you're dead. It's only difficult for others. - It's the same when you're stupid.

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KJJ said:

A real fan wouldn’t say they wouldn’t be following the team anymore if they weren’t running the board as a moderator. Real fans don’t stop following the team. He has every right to deal with the disappointment in the organization the way he wants.

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KJJ said:

You said you didn’t know the players as if you don’t follow the team close enough to know the roster. That’s what I took from your comment. You claim you’re still a fan but said if it wasn’t for running this board you wouldn’t even follow the team. Sounds like a contradiction to me. You make it appear you don’t care anymore. I get some of what you’re saying that you’re down on the Joneses and the organization. We all feel the same way. Everyone is frustrated with the way Jerry runs the team and the direction the Cowboys have been going the past 27 years. The fans that have truly lost their passion for the team don’t follow the Cowboys anymore. They certainly wouldn’t spend their time posting on a fan board. There’s fans that have left this board because they’ve given up on the team. I’m beyond frustrated but I’ll always care and be passionate about the Cowboys. I don’t get butterflies before games like I used to but I still look forward to them.

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