The Jones as owners

Diehardblues · Apr 24, 2022

Flamma said:
That's an interesting take. You're probably 80% right. But the Cowboys did have some good years with Quincy Carter and a washed up Drew Bledsoe. Did these other teams even try?

Really?. One 9-7 playoff season with Quincy which was because of our only top defense since 90’s. And we had to bench Drew for Romo.

Diehardblues · Apr 24, 2022

CowboyRoy said:
As stated below, that is only because they had blind luck in finding Dak and Romo for nothing. Had they not been blindly spoon fed two top 10 QB's back to back over the last 16 years they would be as bad if not worse then all those teams during that time.

Bingo.

We’ve seen what we have been when Romo or Prescott were out for extended time. A 4-6 win franchise. And look at some of 1st and 2nd round QB’s our dysfunctional ownership drafted or were looking to draft in Quincy, Manziel and Lynch.

jnday · Apr 24, 2022

cowboybish said:
The Jones as owners - Thumbs Up (/\) or Thumbs Down (\/)

For me (\/)

There is not another owner in the league with an ego as big as Jerry’s ego. There is not an owner in the league that is as infatuated with being in front of the media more than Jerry. Stephen loves the media attention as well, as long as it doesn’t cost him a penny. Stephen has a big problem with his arrogance and entitlement attitude as well. There is no hope of things getting better under his leadership as many of us had wished for.

jnday · Apr 24, 2022

john van brocklin said:
As owners not a bad job, as GM mixed results.
Hired Jimmy and that got us 3 SBs.
Kept Jerry as GM last 27 years with sorry results.
I would say it's a wash.

If ownership is only measured by making money instead of fielding quality teams, they would be considered as great.

john van brocklin · Apr 24, 2022

jnday said:
If ownership is only measured by making money instead of fielding quality teams, they would be considered as great.

True enough

JoeKing · Apr 24, 2022

Sheepherder · Apr 24, 2022

blueblood70 said:
as owners, they have 3 Super bowl trophies and the other ownership had 2 id say they are winning regardless of the drought..thumbs up Jerrys got yellow jacket from the ownership position. doesnt natter if you get 3 in 5 years or 3 in 31 years its still 3..

LittleD said:
You are so right. The NFL has drastically changed over the last15 years. The self centered players of today are only interested in money not winning championships. The game has so changed, and has now been attached to
gambling that no outcome is certain.

CowboyRoy said:
If we take into considering that both Romo and Dak were basically blind luck it gets even worse for the Joneses. What if they didnt stumble onto those two guys the last 16 years? How much worse would our franchise have been? We could still be running the rat race of trying to find a top 10 QB all while these two morons try to build a team.

These clowns were basically handed two top 10 franchise QB's for the last 16 years and they still couldnt build a contender around those QB's with every asset being used solely for that purpose and not to find a QB.

Its almost mind numbing to think about how bad they really are.

Flamma said:
That's an interesting take. You're probably 80% right. But the Cowboys did have some good years with Quincy Carter and a washed up Drew Bledsoe. Did these other teams even try?

The truth hurts sometimes. You are right though, that was the only time Dallas got any better.That is when Parcells was coaching here.

Flamma · Apr 24, 2022

Diehardblues said:
True but the difference is at least they have the opportunity at some point to bring in a better GM.

Ultimately it's their money. If they want to play it super conservative, should we really think someone else managing the cap and drafting players is going to make a difference?

Flamma · Apr 24, 2022

Diehardblues said:
Really?. One 9-7 playoff season with Quincy which was because of our only top defense since 90’s. And we had to bench Drew for Romo.

They went 10-6 with Carter and lost in the playoffs. 9-7 with Bledsoe the following year. Romo didn't show up on the field until 2006.

Diehardblues · Apr 24, 2022

Flamma said:
Ultimately it's their money. If they want to play it super conservative, should we really think someone else managing the cap and drafting players is going to make a difference?

The point is if we didn’t have Jethro they potentially could make a difference. And we could continue spinning the wheel for more GM’s until one did. I think it would provide more hope than we currently have.

Diehardblues · Apr 24, 2022

Flamma said:
They went 10-6 with Carter and lost in the playoffs. 9-7 with Bledsoe the following year. Romo didn't show up on the field until 2006.

Thanks for correction but it doesn’t change the point. Neither Quincy nor Drew provided us the opportunity that Dak and Tony did.

Flamma · Apr 24, 2022

Diehardblues said:
Thanks for correction but it doesn’t change the point. Neither Quincy nor Drew provided us the opportunity that Dak and Tony did.

That wasn't my argument. I know they were bad, and that's the reason I brought them up.

plasticman · Apr 25, 2022

Hey, if you want me to pull up my 20 page rant, I'll be more than happy.

However, I think my fellow posters have seen enough of how I feel about the Jones's so I'll just leave it at that.

Typhus · Apr 25, 2022

cowboybish said:
The Jones as owners - Thumbs Up (/\) or Thumbs Down (\/)

For me (\/)

Yippy Kai Yay,,, cow patty.

Cowfan75 · Apr 25, 2022

Jerry is bad, Stephen is worse, and we'll likely have Stephen for the next 20 years or so.

Whirlwin · Apr 26, 2022

Flamma said:
The Jones boys SOP is intentional, there is no mistake. It's meant to keep the Cowboys middling to good, with a better chance at being a contender than going 4-12. From a business standpoint that's good. As opposed to the Raiders, 2 winning seasons in the last 19 years, winning 4-5 games every year.

The mistake a lot of people make is thinking they're goal is a championship. That their SOP is with that in mind. It isn't. It's not priority #1. I think this approach is more due to the son. Jerry is a gambler as we've seen. To the point of being reckless. I believe his son has more influence on him now and is the reason for being this conservative.

Make no mistake about it. Jerry wants a championship. Is it top priority. That’s what I’m not sure of

acr731 · Apr 26, 2022

Whirlwin said:
Make no mistake about it. Jerry wants a championship. Is it top priority. That’s what I’m not sure of

This right here is the biggest load of BS any of us will read here this year. Jerry said it himself that the goals are to stay 'relevant' and 'interesting'. No where does any of that lead to 'championship'.

There isn't a chance in hell that Jerry or Stephen are focusing on building a championship team. You would have to be the most delusional fan on this site if you believe otherwise.

shabazz · Apr 26, 2022

I doubt these two could have run a farm in Georgia in 1855….they would have found a way to be in the red

Preoccupied · Apr 26, 2022

Thumbs Down.

Win it again for redemption.

dckid · Apr 26, 2022

cowboybish said:
The Jones as owners - Thumbs Up (/\) or Thumbs Down (\/)

For me (\/)

I am so happy to see fans openly saying how bad the Jones family really is. Talk about living off the fumes on Jimmy Johnson since 1994.
What a sad clown show of an organization. I wish the local fans would just walk out of the stadium.
If any competent management group comes in here, we are in a championship game within 3-4 years.
The FO is always behind the curve, whether it is overpaying RB's and QB's after the recent history.
They saw Baltimore (Flacco) Minn, SF, Philly, LAR all pay average QB's and they just double down and do something stupid. At the end of the day Jerry just had to spend some minimum amount of money, signing Dak, Zeke, Tank, Martin, name the next player... He has achieved everything in his mind. SB's, HOF, ego inflation is at its highest point. Highest value franchise in the world. He needs the spotlight more than anything. He is the definition of sick human being.

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