McCarthy deserves better than this

jnday · Apr 27, 2022

Diehardblues said:
My take away from yesterdays news conference is him sandwiched in between our dysfunctional ownership . He actually looked smaller if that’s possible .

I had been somewhat targeting him since his arrival but I feel sorry for him now. I know many fans had hope he was going to be our savior but he has no chance over coming these fools . He’s become just another puppet. And probably always was since he stayed over at Jethro’s .

I can’t see him surviving another season barring something we haven’t seen this era which isn’t likely. And for his sake he deserves something better.

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn’t totally grasp the crap show he was getting himself into. What a Shonda our Cowboys have become .

“Deserves” got nothing to do with it. He is well paid. His on-field coaching has been horrible, so a case could be made for him being overpaid.

Diehardblues · Apr 27, 2022

Doomsday101 said:
No he didn't, he was a FA and Philly jumped in and paid him more than they should have. I'm sorry but blaming Jerry for everything is a joke. I do agree things Jerry has done over the years as at times not worked out but this i=lame crap of blaming him for every thing is ridiculous . Fact is this team has talent to win, if falls to this coaching staff to get it done. Period. Jerry is not interfering with what is taking place on the field. For instance Jerry made comments about the poor FG kicking yet coaches did not cut Zerline, that was on them

Cool. Another fan who apparently believes Jethro and Son are placing this franchise in the best position to win. I’ll let you be. No use in arguing . Not an island I care to be stranded on.

Doomsday101 · Apr 27, 2022

Diehardblues said:
But we could argue the fact Romo didn’t have his dominating running game placed him in danger again having to move the ball thru the air which placed him more in harms way.

Our offense didn’t look the same in those first 4 games . And Romo was again needed to carry the load with his arm .

You mean spin, Dallas ranked 9th in rushing in 2015 season so while running game was not as good it was still a top 10 rushing game. Romo injury happend not because of the running game. This is what I mean blaming Jerry for things he had nothing to do with or outside of his control. I blame Jerry for many different things over the year but trying to lump him into things outside of his control is a joke.

CWR · Apr 27, 2022

Diehardblues said:
And probably why he spoke out after the playoff loss. He probably thought there was a possibility he could be fired then and wanted to let potential employers know that wasn’t all on him .

I have no doubt he’s a puppet now . And suspicious he was from the beginning accepting Moore as he did. It’s a wicked tangled web here in Big D. The most dysfunctional situation in he NFL.

If he's a puppet, then it's because he's allowing it, which makes him no better than his puppet master. Again, screw MM for not having the backbone to stand up OR the know how to fix what is wrong with the team. Either scenario he is found lacking.

Diehardblues · Apr 27, 2022

CWR said:
If he's a puppet, then it's because he's allowing it, which makes him no better than his puppet master. Again, screw MM for not having the backbone to stand up OR the know how to fix what is wrong with the team. Either scenario he is found lacking.

I’m not a big fan of his. Mostly bashed him the last couple years. But apparently has no more chance of success than his puppets preceding him.

Doomsday101 · Apr 27, 2022

Diehardblues said:
Cool. Another fan who apparently believes Jethro and Son are placing this franchise in the best position to win. I’ll let you be. No use in arguing . Not an island I care to be stranded on.

I really do not care what you think, you are no more of an expert than I am. It is the job of the organization to put talent on the field and there are times that Jerry has failed to do that and yet other years where he did his job. McCarthy whom I think if a fine coach has a job and that is take the talent on this team and go out and win with it. Are there weakness within the team sure and yet you can find weakness on every team in the NFL. Bottom line there is enough talent to win.

noshame · Apr 27, 2022

I want him gone tomorrow. He sold dumb and dumber his analytical BS and they hired him. Lack of discipline was just one of the many inexcusable downfalls of this team

I feel sorry for us.

MapleLeaf · Apr 27, 2022

Diehardblues said:
My take away from yesterdays news conference is him sandwiched in between our dysfunctional ownership . He actually looked smaller if that’s possible .

I had been somewhat targeting him since his arrival but I feel sorry for him now. I know many fans had hope he was going to be our savior but he has no chance over coming these fools . He’s become just another puppet. And probably always was since he stayed over at Jethro’s .

I can’t see him surviving another season barring something we haven’t seen this era which isn’t likely. And for his sake he deserves something better.

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn’t totally grasp the crap show he was getting himself into. What a Shonda our Cowboys have become .

He won't last long, and his expiration date in Dallas is coming soon.

It would be great exercise for long retired coaches from Dallas to offer an honest opinion of what their time with Dallas has actually been like.

We are talking about coaches who are not looking for another job in the league nor are they eyeing for a spot in Canton - so no conflicts of interest to restrict their candour and opinion.

What would their opinion be of working inside the Cowboys compared to other teams?

Diehardblues · Apr 27, 2022

Doomsday101 said:
You mean spin, Dallas ranked 9th in rushing in 2015 season so while running game was not as good it was still a top 10 rushing game. Romo injury happend not because of the running game. This is what I mean blaming Jerry for things he had nothing to do with or outside of his control. I blame Jerry for many different things over the year but trying to lump him into things outside of his control is a joke.

The toxic culture and environment are within his control. And personnel decisions are within his control. Those contributing factors can impact the performances and results on the field .

Reid1boys · Apr 27, 2022

john van brocklin said:
Glad you asked:
When you have no accountability you can't have sustained success.
Jerry is accountable to no one.
That mentally flows down the whole organization.
When we lose its always someone else's fault.
The refs, the penalties ect ect ect.....

ell they have accountability with the Jags, dont they? Coaches get fired, players get sent packing. Hows that working out for them?

How about the Raiders> Handed over 100% control to a hard nose guy. He had the team for how long ??? 4 years? He held people accountable. Howd that work out? How about whats his face... the Pats asst coach that was hired as a head coach.. you know, Josh McDaniels, that offensive guru that was bringing over the 'Patriot way," with him. He brought in accountability and discipline. Great discipline, so much discipline he benched their star WR for lack of discipline. He didnt make it through 2 seasons... but hey, he brought in accountability and discipline though. Too bad he didnt get to have Peyton manning to go along with that discipline.. I bet that would have then been a great winning combo.
I can keep going, but you get my point.

BigD_95 · Apr 27, 2022

MountaineerCowboy said:
I'm not a McCarthy fan at all and never was, but he's set up to fail. I believe he's not 100% committed at this point anyways.

Every decision this season will have a "What would Peyton have done?" attached to it.

I mean, the team is significantly worse right now then it was last year, so there's no reason to think we're going to make a run.

I believe this will be the last year for big Mike and the watermelons in Dallas will breath a sigh of relief.

well he wasnt setup to fail last year and he shouldnt even be the HC right now. He should of been fired along with Moore.

So MM should be thankful he even has another chance to be the HC of the Cowboys. Since he couldnt win with more talent lets see if he can actually out coach teams this season.

Diehardblues · Apr 27, 2022

MapleLeaf said:
He won't last long, and his expiration date in Dallas is coming soon.

It would be great exercise for long retired coaches from Dallas to offer an honest opinion of what their time with Dallas has actually been like.

We are talking about coaches who are not looking for another job in the league nor are they eyeing for a spot in Canton - so no conflicts of interest to restrict their candour and opinion.

What would their opinion be of working inside the Cowboys compared to other teams?

Wish they would but they won’t as Couch Coach eluded to earlier this thread. It’s a tight fraternity and speaking out against the owners simply isn’t done .

Diehardblues · Apr 27, 2022

Doomsday101 said:
I really do not care what you think, you are no more of an expert than I am. It is the job of the organization to put talent on the field and there are times that Jerry has failed to do that and yet other years where he did his job. McCarthy whom I think if a fine coach has a job and that is take the talent on this team and go out and win with it. Are there weakness within the team sure and yet you can find weakness on every team in the NFL. Bottom line there is enough talent to win.

Enough talent to win a championship? That’s an opinion that again will leave you on another island.

But Uncle Jethro has a big hug for you

MapleLeaf · Apr 27, 2022

Diehardblues said:
Wish they would but they won’t as Couch Coach eluded to earlier this thread. It’s a tight fraternity and speaking out against the owners simply isn’t done .

Yeah, that is the part of my fandom that I wish we could have. Third party evaluations of the team and the team's management that I follow.

I'm not sure how the rest of this forum feels, but from my side of the monitor I do have questions and some thoughts about why I am witnessing some of the behaviours I see from inside the team and the management.

It would be great to hear, with candour, from those who are inside the steel curtain every so often.

I know a lot of posters don't necessarily like Bryan Broadus, but he has released tidbits every so often that I do like to hear as context to what I have seen through the internet or on the field.

MapleLeaf · Apr 27, 2022

Reid1boys said:
ell they have accountability with the Jags, dont they? Coaches get fired, players get sent packing. Hows that working out for them?

How about the Raiders> Handed over 100% control to a hard nose guy. He had the team for how long ??? 4 years? He held people accountable. Howd that work out? How about whats his face... the Pats asst coach that was hired as a head coach.. you know, Josh McDaniels, that offensive guru that was bringing over the 'Patriot way," with him. He brought in accountability and discipline. Great discipline, so much discipline he benched their star WR for lack of discipline. He didnt make it through 2 seasons... but hey, he brought in accountability and discipline though. Too bad he didnt get to have Peyton manning to go along with that discipline.. I bet that would have then been a great winning combo.
I can keep going, but you get my point.

I know it is easy to look at other teams with a wary eye. Not sure I would look specifically at the individuals who are parachuted in - say coaches. I would focus on those who are permanent fixtures and have the real control over the long term culture.

This is what makes the Hoodie so interesting. He has been there 22 years, he's a coach, but is there any doubt who actually controls a significant portion of the Patriots culture if not all of it?

Another one to look at is Tomlin.

Would Dallas fans be interested to see their team reflect more of how the Patriots and Steelers work form a culture point of view from ownership to on field coaching?

CowboyFanInLexKy · Apr 27, 2022

Reid1boys said:
Deserves better? oh please.... did he deserve a job? he got booted from GB for a reason.

Yes... Aaron "Crybaby" Rodgers

Reid1boys · Apr 27, 2022

MapleLeaf said:
I know it is easy to look at other teams with a wary eye. Not sure I would look specifically at the individuals who are parachuted in - say coaches. I would focus on those who are permanent fixtures and have the real control over the long term culture.

This is what makes the Hoodie so interesting. He has been there 22 years, he's a coach, but is there any doubt who actually controls a significant portion of the Patriots culture if not all of it?

Another one to look at is Tomlin.

Would Dallas fans be interested to see their team reflect more of how the Patriots and Steelers work form a culture point of view from ownership to on field coaching?

How is that culture working out for Hoodie since Brady retired?

How is that Culture working out in Pittsburgh since Ben has been washed up and now retired? The "Patriot Way," is nothing more than winning and losing like everybody else now that Tom Terrific is gone.
Culture is awesome when you have a HOF QB taking snaps from the center.

Same culture with crappy QB still ends up with coach getting fired after a few seasons.

Doomsday101 · Apr 27, 2022

Diehardblues said:
The toxic culture and environment are within his control. And personnel decisions are within his control. Those contributing factors can impact the performances and results on the field .

Bottom line is getting talent and that falls to the organization the rest falls to the coaches and the players.

Diehardblues · Apr 27, 2022

Doomsday101 said:
Bottom line is getting talent and that falls to the organization the rest falls to the coaches and the players.

The front office is also responsible for bringing in the coaches and delegating their responsibility.

If ownership is undermining the coaches authority and thus creating a toxic culture then those are also factors which fall under their responsibility.

Reid1boys · Apr 27, 2022

CowboyFanInLexKy said:
Yes... Aaron "Crybaby" Rodgers

Ah yes, the crybaby that is the reason big Mike has a winning record and a Lombardi on his resume.

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