Reactionary phase over. this pick makes a lot of sense

Typhus · Apr 29, 2022

No RBs have been drafted yet, just think if on day 2 that we get a KW3 how fast this running game improves.

Mark · Apr 29, 2022

America's Cowboy said:
Should and could have waited until the 3rd & 4th rounds to pickup someone proven at LG from a big school and conference like LSU's Ed Ingram or OSU's Marquis Hayes. But, hey, we have to keep cheering for these fools' terrible draft decisions!!!

Of the twenty-four (24) top first-round draft picks the Cowboys have had during the Jones era (and prior to this year) sixteen (16) ended up as Pro-Bowlers. Since 2010, we've snagged eight (8) Pro-Bowlers (+ Cee Dee Lamb) with eleven (11) picks. Morris Claiborne and Taco Charlton were the only picks that didn't pan out. I suspect that record would stand respectably against that of any other team in the League.

CowboysFaninHouston · Apr 29, 2022

Ken said:
Here is one that I came across around the Senior Bowl....

Smith went under the radar during the 2021 season, but area scouts who cover Tulsa raved about him.Here's what one area scout texted me about Smith, "If Tyler Smith blows up his combine and workouts, he could go top 10. He's more gifted than the other offensive tackles in this class besides the N.C. State kid. Smith is 6-foot-5, 325 pounds with 34-plus-inch arms. As violent as he plays and the fact he can play guard also, I could see someone pushing him up because he's only 20 and smart also. He'll hover bottom 1/early 2 until workouts and then we'll see how he handles process.

https://***USER-BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1***/nflhotpress/article/Senior-Bowl-2022-Rumors-Monday

Also worth noting what they said about Drake London lol

sorry, I am not sold on him....he is physically gifted. but lacks technique. penalties...16 in 12 games are a huge concern. he has to prove he can do it in the NFL and that's the only way....I will eat crow gladly, by the shovel full when that happens

CowboysFaninHouston · Apr 29, 2022

Ken said:
I saw enough film of him dominating a projected 2nd rnd pick in this draft to feel comfortable that level of comp won't be an issue.

for cowboys sake. I hope so

john van brocklin · Apr 29, 2022

BobSacamano said:
Dallas didn’t address DE and LB properly in free agency either. Those two positions had good players available at 24 as well. Would you consider those selections as drafting for need?

Probably would.
OL was our biggest glaring need however.
I just dont know why we cant use free agency to our advantage.
Most other teams do.

RonnieT24 · Apr 29, 2022

CowboysFaninHouston said:
sorry, I am not sold on him....he is physically gifted. but lacks technique. penalties...16 in 12 games are a huge concern. he has to prove he can do it in the NFL and that's the only way....I will eat crow gladly, by the shovel full when that happens

Dude is really athletic for his size maybe even in the Tyron mold.. though not quite as chiseled. And at just barely 21 still growing and filling out. I think he's got Larry Allen strength potential because he's already strong as hell. Sure he comes risk.. but all picks do. This pick at least shows that after a few years of forgetting where their bread is buttered the Cowboys have come to their senses. The Cowboys have never been any good without a really good offensive line. This could be a step back in that direction.

JohnnyHopkins · Apr 29, 2022

Last night I threw out some curse words and really questioned a lot of life choices, but after sleeping on it I am going to have a little faith in the kid. I really hated that pick at the spot they took him because I felt that they could have had him in the second round, kind of like how I felt about Travis Frederick when they drafted him in the first round. If Dallas had traded back and nabbed him in the early second I would have had zero problems with it.

Fast forward to today. Per Dane Brugler's comments, along with a few others, Smith was going to get drafted in the first round even if Dallas passed on him, so if they felt he was their guy then they were probably right to pull the trigger. If he shows out like Fredbead then I can admit that I overreacted.

DaBoys12 · Apr 29, 2022

I like the kid. He’s raw, but man he has all the tools, plays violent, strong, smart. He held in space, bad foot work, arms outside the body at times. That stuff is fixable, and he won’t be in space much at LG, so penalty’s should go down just by the move from tackle to guard.
The problem I have is with the coaching, I don’t know if Philbin can coach him up? If someone like Bill Callahan was coaching the line, I’d feel a lot better about the kid reaching his potential.

erod · Apr 29, 2022

DaBoys12 said:
I like the kid. He’s raw, but man he has all the tools, plays violent, strong, smart. He held in space, bad foot work, arms outside the body at times. That stuff is fixable, and he won’t be in space much at LG, so penalty’s should go down just by the move from tackle to guard.
The problem I have is with the coaching, I don’t know if Philbin can coach him up? If someone like Bill Callahan was coaching the line, I’d feel a lot better about the kid reaching his potential.

The difference is, he's a really good athlete. He can learn.

It's trying to teach sloppy, uncoordinated, unathletic massive dudes to play offensive line that's really difficult. Like Pat McQuistan or Solomon Page.

Jarntt · Apr 29, 2022

erod said:
After a night of shaking my head, I've looked into this Tyson Smith pick further, and it's really not that bad of a reach pick.

He's not the traditional "project player" that we all tend to hate in early rounds.

Smith is big enough, strong enough, quick enough, and nasty enough to play in the league RIGHT NOW. I get so tired of waiting for guys to spend 2 years in the weight room before they can stand up to NFL defensive linemen. Not the case with this kid. He's ready in that regard.

Technique isn't hard to teach if the player has the athletic and physical tools already. Smith will require coaching, but he's also got Tyron right next to him, and he has very much the same frame.

Smith is a natural left tackle, so he can immediately play at guard, then slide over when Tyron retires. That alone makes a ton of sense to pick a guy like this.

At that point in the draft with what was left, I would have preferred one of the two linebackers there so Parsons could run free. However, this offensive line issue is looming large, and so I get it.

Plus, I do trust McClay, and apparently he like this guy a lot even if it wasn't his preferred pick to fall to Dallas.

Tonight has to make this pick make perfect sense however.

I agree the pick makes sense now that we know the idea is to play LG, but I'm not so sure he's a natural LT that can just automatically slide over when needed. Also, one of the issues that was a red flag to some was the leg issues that no one seems to be mentioning. Hopefully the doctors feel it is a non-issue. I also don't necessarily think technique is as easy to teach as you say. My biggest problem was I thought there were better players on the board and free agents options are still available so I didn't see the need to force the position. I do agree on McClay. I hope he was behind the pick. I guess we have to say T Smith 73 and T Smith 77

Avery · Apr 29, 2022

Now that the dust has settled, I'm more okay with it. I think he's a LG through and through.

If Johnson goes gangbusters, I'll be a bit irritated, but it is what it is.

Ranched · Apr 29, 2022

The Boys have 8 picks left~
Give Us:
2 wide receivers
2 linebackers
1 edge rusher
1 corner
1 guard
1 safety
That fair?!

RS12 · Apr 29, 2022

Every pick makes a lot of sense........if they work out.

Runwildboys · Apr 29, 2022

erod said:
After a night of shaking my head, I've looked into this Tyson Smith pick further, and it's really not that bad of a reach pick.

He's not the traditional "project player" that we all tend to hate in early rounds.

Smith is big enough, strong enough, quick enough, and nasty enough to play in the league RIGHT NOW. I get so tired of waiting for guys to spend 2 years in the weight room before they can stand up to NFL defensive linemen. Not the case with this kid. He's ready in that regard.

Technique isn't hard to teach if the player has the athletic and physical tools already. Smith will require coaching, but he's also got Tyron right next to him, and he has very much the same frame.

Smith is a natural left tackle, so he can immediately play at guard, then slide over when Tyron retires. That alone makes a ton of sense to pick a guy like this.

At that point in the draft with what was left, I would have preferred one of the two linebackers there so Parsons could run free. However, this offensive line issue is looming large, and so I get it.

Plus, I do trust McClay, and apparently he like this guy a lot even if it wasn't his preferred pick to fall to Dallas.

Tonight has to make this pick make perfect sense however.

So it's almost like they know what they're doing?

RS12 · Apr 29, 2022

Miller said:
Here is my issue…one of many…we picked a guy they said is rated 16 but Stephen is saying he may or may not start. Your #1 pick who was 16 wasn’t a starter in your head. That means project. I don’t get it.

A penalty machine from a non power 5 conference. What could go wrong?

RonnieT24 · Apr 29, 2022

Ranched said:
The Boys have 8 picks left~
Give Us:
2 wide receivers
2 linebackers
1 edge rusher
1 corner
1 guard
1 safety
That fair?!

And a partridge in a pear treeeeee...

fivetwos · Apr 29, 2022

CowboysFaninHouston said:
every scouting report had one thing in common. his technique is bad, he is just big and strong, having played against inferior competition and even then he got 16 flags last year...IN COLLEGE!!!!!!

essentially we drafted a project with the first round pick.

Yeah there's that.....lol.

This is really boom or bust, but the safer guards were gone and they put themselves in a spot to have to draft a starter at 24.....likely figuring Green OR Zion would be there.

The part that bugs me is they always have to say.....whoever we take, that was the plan all along and he was ranked higher than the selection number.

I do NOT buy that in this case. I just don't.

If so, when they rank players, do they not take downside into account?

Jerry said they had Sean Lee ranked top 15 overall. Yeah sure, if the injuries weren't a factor.....and what happened?

Im going to choose to focus on his upside for the long run, but 2022 could be ugly.....and if he misses any time in camp at all its redshirt city.

Coogiguy03 · Apr 29, 2022

erod said:
After a night of shaking my head, I've looked into this Tyson Smith pick further, and it's really not that bad of a reach pick.

He's not the traditional "project player" that we all tend to hate in early rounds.

Smith is big enough, strong enough, quick enough, and nasty enough to play in the league RIGHT NOW. I get so tired of waiting for guys to spend 2 years in the weight room before they can stand up to NFL defensive linemen. Not the case with this kid. He's ready in that regard.

Technique isn't hard to teach if the player has the athletic and physical tools already. Smith will require coaching, but he's also got Tyron right next to him, and he has very much the same frame.

Smith is a natural left tackle, so he can immediately play at guard, then slide over when Tyron retires. That alone makes a ton of sense to pick a guy like this.

At that point in the draft with what was left, I would have preferred one of the two linebackers there so Parsons could run free. However, this offensive line issue is looming large, and so I get it.

Plus, I do trust McClay, and apparently he like this guy a lot even if it wasn't his preferred pick to fall to Dallas.

Tonight has to make this pick make perfect sense however.

Yes the waiting period is getting old, if you're drafted high we need you now not this waiting stuff

Diverdown · Apr 29, 2022

ChronicCowboy said:
The only positive if he plays guard is he won’t get pushed back in the run game like Williams. He’ll probably hold as much though.

I dont know about that, but we'll see. My impression of Williams holding issue was due to the fact of him being overwhelmed physically. Don't think that will happen with this guy.

Trajan · Apr 29, 2022

CowboysFaninHouston said:
sorry, I am not sold on him....he is physically gifted. but lacks technique. penalties...16 in 12 games are a huge concern. he has to prove he can do it in the NFL and that's the only way....I will eat crow gladly, by the shovel full when that happens

I have no doubt that the refs will know this and watch him like a hawk, just like Williams.

Reactionary phase over. this pick makes a lot of sense

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