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Diehardblues

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Opinionated based judgments? Why I never! Well, yeah, I do and so do you and everyone else here.

But I tell you what is not opinion. Booger is a liar so I start any thought process about what he says with that fact.
He’s been lying since Day 1 on 2-25-1989. But us old diehards are the minority. Most of our fanbase takes the bait and why he continues dishing it out.

The rest have either already walked away looking from a distance with apathy or complaining all the way to the bank.
 

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I don't listen to him anymore.
Understood but I think it’s important to know why we are where we are and where we’re headed.

Because it explains how dysfunctional we are. If you don’t listen to him then you might think we are trying to operate normally. Lol
 

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It can for sure be said that Jerry is an eternal optimist. I agree with that. That’s great for many things in life. But it’s one of many reasons why he’s a terrible GM. The best GMs are always prepared for the worst case scenarios. A GM can certainly be optimistic but he better also have a strong plan for the worst case scenarios.

JJ believes everything he does is sound. He doesn’t seem to even be open to the idea that he’s the one constant in the 26 year playoff desert we're in. Every owner and GM does a sales job to the fans. I get it. The problem here Jerry actually believes his own bs.
He doesn’t even have to believe his dribble . But if enough fans do that’s all that matters. Look how many fans in this forum buy into it. It’s embarrassing. And they otherwise seem like sensible fans . They just want to believe the best. It’s a normal instinct . And Jethro preys on that mentality.
 

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Lamb drops to 17 and they do not have a need to spend a 1st on a WR but he does for some bragging rights about getting a steal. That positional pick was at the bottom of needs.

In rankings, the 3rd best edge rusher, 3rd best DT and the best LB all fall to 24 and the fact that Jermaine Johnson is there is the shocker of the 1st round and the Jets are beyond giddy to cap off one of the best 1st rounds in recent history.

They went for need on all 3 picks and that's not necessarily a bad thing but it proves they really do not have a draft strategy.

We won't know the truth about where they had Smith ranked or if they would have taken him if Green, Johnson, Burks or Penning would have been there.

The guy saying he was their 16th and ahead of the other higher ranked OL by every service in the game lied about the last 1st round pick and was countered by his son telling the truth that it was always the 2 CB's.

These 3 players are not bad players and they may work out but they have "need" all over them and the first pick has "reach" and it seems the owner did a number on us by switching his risk pick from the 2nd round to the 1st round.

I really do not have a problem with the pick, he's rough and I don't know how ready he is but he's got attitude and size and I like him already better than I ever did the pick for the Willams "project".

However, do we really have to deal with this clown insulting us with his ego based lies all of the time? "The other guys were gone and we took the highest rated OL on our board" or "Once Horn and Surtain were gone, the choice was easy for Parsons and we were lucky he was there".

Does this man think he is going to fool us into thinking this is all by design, part of the master plan? It's one thing to ignore the fans; it's something else to insult them.


What makes this so sad is that those were needs created by the FO by letting some of our better players at these positions walk. Ok, you trade away Cooper and free up salary... but why did we let La'el walk? Williams is understandable because he's a penalty machine and constantly getting tossed back. We let Wilson go as well, so that coupled with Cooper's departure, creates a hole at WR.

The FO literally forced themselves to have a 'needs' draft and did nothing with all of that cap space freed up... to make things worse, we literally drafted the same kind of players that had issues that made the players we let walk had.

Smith is stronger than Williams, but one of Williams biggest issues is being a penalty machine, so we draft one of the most penalized linemen in college football. Gregory's big issue is availability... Williams could very well be unavailable if he is getting in trouble off the field.

Most people aren't bagging on the Tolbert pick because that was actually a solid value pick... guy who has talent on tape and no off the field issues we know about.

Those 'needs drafts' almost always prove to be disappointing, but we'll see.
 

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Best player available (BPA) and need are synergistic and compensatory. If you already have your franchise QB, do you pick the best QB who also may be one of the BPAs in the draft if he falls in your lap? No. You trade the pick for something or you pick the player you need who is also the BPA. You always have to look for what you’re compensating for. The point has always been to not REACH for need over BPA, and everything within that is a gray area.
Best post in thread .

If DE was a high need we should have used it in first round when it fell to us with Johnson. We could have found another 2nd round caliber OL in 2nd round.
 

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Like any draft, none of us know whether or not any of these players will be as good as advertised. I think Tyler Smith CAN be an excellent player….. Like Coach said earlier, it is just plain amazing that this nearly 80 yr old billionaire playing fantasy football GM has to insult our fans with his schtick every year. He craves making everyone think he’s outsmarting everyone.

Most people are half senile at that age , Thats why I agree there should be retirement age for every position in a League team or the public world including senators and Supreme court judges , there shouldn’t be lifetime position. Very few have all their marbles intact at that age.:lmao2:
 

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Most people are half senile at that age , Thats why I agree there should be retirement age for every position in a League team or the public world including senators and Supreme court judges , there shouldn’t be lifetime position. Very few have all their marbles intact at that age.:lmao2:
I turn 68 this summer and I can honestly say I’m not as sharp. The fact at age 80 he still thinks he is sharp enough is appalling. It’s become flat embarrassing.

And any Cowboys fan who doesn’t see it should be shot at sundown. Lol
 

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Understood but I think it’s important to know why we are where we are and where we’re headed.

Because it explains how dysfunctional we are. If you don’t listen to him then you might think we are trying to operate normally. Lol
Not worth the pain trying to listen to that voice try to form coherent sentences. The only way I could remain a fan was to ignore him and his son as much as possible.
 

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I turn 68 this summer and I can honestly say I’m not as sharp. The fact at age 80 he still thinks he is sharp enough is appalling. It’s become flat embarrassing.

And any Cowboys fan who doesn’t see it should be shot at sundown. Lol
There is no ego to match old man ego.
 

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What's funny is, in hindsight, the Cowboys did what they usually do. They did a good job of misleading a lot of us into thinking they might not. I don't have a problem with the players they picked. Whether I would have done it differently or not is meaningless. I'm interested in seeing how these guys do, and as a fan, I have to hope for the best. Whining like a little beech is a bad look for me. I'm really not as furious as some here are. I like the players.
I think overall we did a great job drafting.
 

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Lamb drops to 17 and they do not have a need to spend a 1st on a WR but he does for some bragging rights about getting a steal. That positional pick was at the bottom of needs.

In rankings, the 3rd best edge rusher, 3rd best DT and the best LB all fall to 24 and the fact that Jermaine Johnson is there is the shocker of the 1st round and the Jets are beyond giddy to cap off one of the best 1st rounds in recent history.

They went for need on all 3 picks and that's not necessarily a bad thing but it proves they really do not have a draft strategy.

We won't know the truth about where they had Smith ranked or if they would have taken him if Green, Johnson, Burks or Penning would have been there.

The guy saying he was their 16th and ahead of the other higher ranked OL by every service in the game lied about the last 1st round pick and was countered by his son telling the truth that it was always the 2 CB's.

These 3 players are not bad players and they may work out but they have "need" all over them and the first pick has "reach" and it seems the owner did a number on us by switching his risk pick from the 2nd round to the 1st round.

I really do not have a problem with the pick, he's rough and I don't know how ready he is but he's got attitude and size and I like him already better than I ever did the pick for the Willams "project".

However, do we really have to deal with this clown insulting us with his ego based lies all of the time? "The other guys were gone and we took the highest rated OL on our board" or "Once Horn and Surtain were gone, the choice was easy for Parsons and we were lucky he was there".

Does this man think he is going to fool us into thinking this is all by design, part of the master plan? It's one thing to ignore the fans; it's something else to insult them.

IF we didnt have a need for Lamb 3 years ago with Cooper and Gallup then how do we have a big need now with Lamb and Gallup? Heck we didnt know about shultz back 3 years ago.
 

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The Cowboys of the 60's through the 80's drafted BPA.

Their 1969 1st round pick was a RB

Their 1970 1st round pick was a RB

Their 1972 1st and 2nd round picks were RB's.

Those Cowboys had 20 consecutive winning seasons, went to the playoff 18 times, won 12 division titles, made12 Conference Championship appearances, and 5 Super bowl appearances.

The Head Coach, GM, and Director of Scouting are all in the Hall of Fame.
 

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Lamb drops to 17 and they do not have a need to spend a 1st on a WR but he does for some bragging rights about getting a steal. That positional pick was at the bottom of needs.

In rankings, the 3rd best edge rusher, 3rd best DT and the best LB all fall to 24 and the fact that Jermaine Johnson is there is the shocker of the 1st round and the Jets are beyond giddy to cap off one of the best 1st rounds in recent history.

They went for need on all 3 picks and that's not necessarily a bad thing but it proves they really do not have a draft strategy.

We won't know the truth about where they had Smith ranked or if they would have taken him if Green, Johnson, Burks or Penning would have been there.

The guy saying he was their 16th and ahead of the other higher ranked OL by every service in the game lied about the last 1st round pick and was countered by his son telling the truth that it was always the 2 CB's.

These 3 players are not bad players and they may work out but they have "need" all over them and the first pick has "reach" and it seems the owner did a number on us by switching his risk pick from the 2nd round to the 1st round.

I really do not have a problem with the pick, he's rough and I don't know how ready he is but he's got attitude and size and I like him already better than I ever did the pick for the Willams "project".

However, do we really have to deal with this clown insulting us with his ego based lies all of the time? "The other guys were gone and we took the highest rated OL on our board" or "Once Horn and Surtain were gone, the choice was easy for Parsons and we were lucky he was there".

Does this man think he is going to fool us into thinking this is all by design, part of the master plan? It's one thing to ignore the fans; it's something else to insult them.
BAPON (Best Available Player of Need). Arlington Jonesboys did not do this in the 2022 NFL Draft. They did in the 2021 Draft.
 

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Lamb drops to 17 and they do not have a need to spend a 1st on a WR but he does for some bragging rights about getting a steal. That positional pick was at the bottom of needs.

In rankings, the 3rd best edge rusher, 3rd best DT and the best LB all fall to 24 and the fact that Jermaine Johnson is there is the shocker of the 1st round and the Jets are beyond giddy to cap off one of the best 1st rounds in recent history.

They went for need on all 3 picks and that's not necessarily a bad thing but it proves they really do not have a draft strategy.

We won't know the truth about where they had Smith ranked or if they would have taken him if Green, Johnson, Burks or Penning would have been there.

The guy saying he was their 16th and ahead of the other higher ranked OL by every service in the game lied about the last 1st round pick and was countered by his son telling the truth that it was always the 2 CB's.

These 3 players are not bad players and they may work out but they have "need" all over them and the first pick has "reach" and it seems the owner did a number on us by switching his risk pick from the 2nd round to the 1st round.

I really do not have a problem with the pick, he's rough and I don't know how ready he is but he's got attitude and size and I like him already better than I ever did the pick for the Willams "project".

However, do we really have to deal with this clown insulting us with his ego based lies all of the time? "The other guys were gone and we took the highest rated OL on our board" or "Once Horn and Surtain were gone, the choice was easy for Parsons and we were lucky he was there".

Does this man think he is going to fool us into thinking this is all by design, part of the master plan? It's one thing to ignore the fans; it's something else to insult them.
You are assuming they rank players based on most ready to play as opposed to most physically gifted. I think jerry was being sincere in saying he was ranked 16 on their board. I do think Jerry tolerates more uncertainty than is helpful sometimes, but that doesn’t make him a liar. He is just using different criteria than others
 
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